Clinton: Half of Trump supporters are in 'basket of deplorables'

originally posted by: UKTruth

So would it be ok for me to say half the people who support Democrats are murderers or drug dealers?
Or half the people who support Clinton are rapists?
So , which camp are you in. Are you a murderer, drug dealer, rapist? Or are you law abiding?

Who cares what you say? LOL Your example is specious and you know it.

As to your question, I'm mostly law-abiding. I drive a bit fast sometimes.

originally posted by: shawmanfromny
We have a vision...we stand together...WE ARE:

Only if you're a racist, sexist, homophobic, religious bigot, or one of more of the preceding.

Yes, if you're any of those things, in a very real sense, most of us would find you Deplorable.

If you're a hard-working American who is simply looking for a change, then we should empathize and understand that you're making a bad choice.

(Fun graphic, btw.)

One would expect the President of the USA the be more Professional than most. Like for example not ridiculing a significant part of the population you may or may not like.

Watching these two candidates is more like watching 10 year olds fighting for the last cookie. Unfortunately reading many comments here and other websites I guess that is just what we do.

Who can throw more busses on top the other wins.

originally posted by: Orionx2
One would expect the President of the USA the be more Professional than most. Like for example not ridiculing a significant part of the population you may or may not like.

Watching these two candidates is more like watching 10 year olds fighting for the last cookie. Unfortunately reading many comments here and other websites I guess that is just what we do.

Who can throw more busses on top the other wins.

How is it ridiculing anyone to state that there are, indeed, racists, sexists, et. al. who are Trump supporters?

He hired a man who clearly stated that he wanted his works to be "the voice of the alt right."

Any number of White nationalist groups have specifically some out in support of Mr. Trump, because they know he is "their kind of guy." His own statements and actions in the past make it clear that he is not without racist tendencies.

Clinton was speaking the truth for once; there needs to be more of that in politics.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Orionx2
One would expect the President of the USA the be more Professional than most. Like for example not ridiculing a significant part of the population you may or may not like.

Watching these two candidates is more like watching 10 year olds fighting for the last cookie. Unfortunately reading many comments here and other websites I guess that is just what we do.

Who can throw more busses on top the other wins.

How is it ridiculing anyone to state that there are, indeed, racists, sexists, et. al. who are Trump supporters?

He hired a man who clearly stated that he wanted his works to be "the voice of the alt right."

Any number of White nationalist groups have specifically some out in support of Mr. Trump, because they know he is "their kind of guy." His own statements and actions in the past make it clear that he is not without racist tendencies.

Clinton was speaking the truth for once; there needs to be more of that in politics.

You miss my point about professionalism but prove my other point about that's what we do.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

This was quoted by Mark O'Donnell in his 1991 book Trumped, and Mr. Trump, in 1997 in a interview with Playboy said "Yeah, I probably said it."

He has since denied that he ever made that statement.

Is Donald Trump a Racist? Here's What the Record Shows - Fortune Magazine

I don't think is true. Trump was NOT referring to a particular statement when he said, "Yeah, I probably said it". In fact, I don't think they were even his words. I seem to recall he was commenting generally on the book.
You have misrepresented the facts.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth

So would it be ok for me to say half the people who support Democrats are murderers or drug dealers?
Or half the people who support Clinton are rapists?
So , which camp are you in. Are you a murderer, drug dealer, rapist? Or are you law abiding?

Who cares what you say? LOL Your example is specious and you know it.

As to your question, I'm mostly law-abiding. I drive a bit fast sometimes.

My example is specious - it was meant to be. Just like Hillary's statement was specious.
The trouble with her making specious statements is that she has a platform to speak to millions of people and she uses it to spread divisiveness and hatred. She is the hate candidate. Always has been, but now finally revealed.

a reply to: UKTruth

So you made a specious argument, got called on it, and now you want to blame Clinton?

And then you go on to make more general statements about what you think about Clinton.

/shrug I'm not sure what you want from me.

a reply to: UKTruth

So you don't think they were his words because they don't fit your current picture of him?

And you can read his mind from 1997? Wow, you really do virtually worship the guy.

No, I didn't misrepresent the facts. I stated what the quote is as relayed in the book, I stated what Trump said about that quote later, and I stated that he now says he didn't say it.

That's clearly evident to all who can read English.

a reply to: Orionx2

I didn't miss your point about professionalism, I challenged it.

Truth is truth, and this particular truth is self-evident.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

So you don't think they were his words because they don't fit your current picture of him?

And you can read his mind from 1997? Wow, you really do virtually worship the guy.

No, I didn't misrepresent the facts. I stated what the quote is as relayed in the book, I stated what Trump said about that quote later, and I stated that he now says he didn't say it.

That's clearly evident to all who can read English.

Except he was not talking about the quote. He was talking about the book generally. It even says so in the article you linked.
According to the article, he said "the book was probably true".
You misrepresented the facts by inferring he was talking about the specific quote and you even changed the words he was reported to have used.
All who can read English can see it clearly in the linked article.

a reply to: UKTruth

I'll say it again.

Trump said the book was true. Does that include what's in the book? Was the quote in the book?

I didn't change any words.

Trump later said he didn't make the comments about "Blacks counting his money. "

I stated that as well.

Like most things, Trump goes back and forth on the truth.

You don't choose to see that, to you apparently, Trump is a glistening hero.

Fine by me, but don't expect anyone else to share that view.

Here's a link to the 1997 article in Playboy.

Here's what Donald ACTUALLY said in the interview.

"Nobody has had worse things written about them than me,” Trump says. “And here I am. The stuff O'Donnell wrote about me is probably true.

Next?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

I'll say it again.

Trump said the book was true. Does that include what's in the book? Was the quote in the book?

I didn't change any words.

Trump later said he didn't make the comments about "Blacks counting his money. "

I stated that as well.

Like most things, Trump goes back and forth on the truth.

You don't choose to see that, to you apparently, Trump is a glistening hero.

Fine by me, but don't expect anyone else to share that view.

You have not done your research. You took 1+1 and made it equal 3.

Here is the actual Playboy article following the interview in 1997.
www.playboy.com...

It does not talk about the comments of 'laziness' attributed to black people. It comments on Trump's response to accusations about his management style:

Quote from the article:

Much was made of Trump’s iron whim, his sometimes ill-informed don’t-bother-me-with-the-details management style, by Jack O'Donnell, a former president of the Trump Plaza who left Trump’s employ in 1990 and then trashed him in a book (Trumped! The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump—His Cunning Rise & Spectacular Fall). The book is a classic midlevel manager’s lament over an employer who wants results, not excuses. He does catch Trump at his petulant worst, demanding that employees be fired for problems beyond their control, issuing contradictory commands, insisting on the impossible. O'Donnell neglects to explain, however, how Trump’s seemingly hopeless leadership somehow manages to succeed. Bollenbach says he found Donald’s famously short attention span and penchant for storytelling annoying at first. There were times he wanted to shake him by the shoulders, make him focus. But he discovered that beneath Donald’s distracted exterior is a hard business mind—"I realized that when he didn’t want to discuss something, it was because he’d already made up his mind.“ Donald is not one to talk something through, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t thinking. Even his worst critics admit that his casinos are consistent moneymakers, that his towers rent space well over the rate of comparable properties, that Mar-a-Lago’s renovation is a triumph and … damn it, his pilot does guide the big black bird down through treacherous crosswinds and sets it on the runway with barely a bump.

"Nobody has had worse things written about them than me,” Trump says. “And here I am. The stuff O'Donnell wrote about me is probably true. The guy’s a #ing loser. A #ing loser. I brought the guy in to work for me; it turns out he didn’t know that much about what he was doing. I think I met the guy two or three times total. And this guy goes off and writes a book about me, like he knows me! I understand it. He needs the money, so he uses my name to sell some books. But it must have been a lousy book because it didn’t sell any copies.”

So, what you have is a guy made an accusation in a book about racism and in an interview, something completely different to that subject was discussed and responded to by Trump. You don;t seem to care though as you are holding on for dear life to your result of 3. It's a bit like Clinton making false accusations.

a reply to: UKTruth

LOL ... I just linked that article.

What about that ... Trump didn't say what you said he did:

Here's what he said specifically (I don't have to quote half the page to look veritable...) ONCE AGAIN

"Nobody has had worse things written about them than me,” Trump says. “And here I am. The stuff O'Donnell wrote about me is probably true.

Quibble on your own time. I was very clear that Trump had said the statement was true, and then, had denied that he said it.

You are the only one here trying to make something out of nothing ... we know you love Trump, we know I don't care for him.

Have fun with the next several posts about nothing.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

LOL ... I just linked that article.

What about that ... Trump didn't say what you said he did:

Here's what he said specifically (I don't have to quote half the page to look veritable...) ONCE AGAIN

"Nobody has had worse things written about them than me,” Trump says. “And here I am. The stuff O'Donnell wrote about me is probably true.

Quibble on your own time. I was very clear that Trump had said the statement was true, and then, had denied that he said it.

You are the only one here trying to make something out of nothing ... we know you love Trump, we know I don't care for him.

Have fun with the next several posts about nothing.

Indeed, talking about his management style - NOT about any racist comment.
You misrepresented the truth and you were caught doing it.

a reply to: UKTruth

LOL ... keep repeating it.

I stated what the book "Trumped" said.

I stated what the article (in Fortune) said about what Trump said (in an article from 1997 in Playboy) about what the book said.

I've now gone back and stated what Trump actually said(in the 1997 article) rather than relying on your "recollection."

I stated IN THE FIRST COMMENT YOU RESPONDED TO that Trump has since stated that he didn't say what was quoted in the book and the article.

You can call that "misrepresenting the truth" if you wish a dozen more times; I'm good with the facts that are clear and obvious.

Rave on.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

LOL ... keep repeating it.

I stated what the book "Trumped" said.

I stated what the article (in Fortune) said about what Trump said (in an article from 1997 in Playboy) about what the book said.

I've now gone back and stated what Trump actually said(in the 1997 article) rather than relying on your "recollection."

I stated IN THE FIRST COMMENT YOU RESPONDED TO that Trump has since stated that he didn't say what was quoted in the book and the article.

You can call that "misrepresenting the truth" if you wish a dozen more times; I'm good with the facts that are clear and obvious.

Rave on.

One statement in a book does not relate to the other statement by Trump. In fact, the ONLY time he has been asked specifically about that statement in the book, he denied he said it. You parroted an article that even got it wrong. Trump's statement was not about the book overall as it turns out. He was referring to the part of the book being discussed in the interview, which was his management style. The lie is taking EVERYTHING in the book and pretending Trump was speaking about it all. It's a trick to smear with zero evidence or substance and you fell for it. Probably wilfully.
Now it's been debunked:

Was trump asked in the 1997 Playboy interview about the alleged racist comments from the book? No. Simple fact.
Was he asked about his management style and did he respond to that. Yes.

a reply to: Gryphon66


In Trump's Rally tonight in NC?


Literally why he was delivering his line about how Hillary Clinton called them all deplorable...A fight breaks out and a man chokes and punches a protestor in the audience and then goes on to try and slap the woman beside him.


Yay...Trump fans!


The video is making the rounds now.

a reply to: Indigo5

LOL

Another DNC plant.

a reply to: UKTruth

You're so attuned to Trump, you can read his mind in 1997.

Amazing.