originally posted by: Springer
a reply to: tetra50
Correct, in one of the only utterly unanimous decisions ever in Congress these lands were set aside for the wild Mustangs. Cattle and sheep and
pipelines are the invasive "species" here, not the horses.
One last time and then I'm out because once more, I'm being proven right. You people won't listen. You people won't be accountable for what you have
done; but here we go: Those lands can only support so many horses. That is why they are "managed" by the BLM. Now because so many people have
turned animals loose onto federal land those numbers have swelled to what we see now. It is unsustainable. If left alone the animals would simply
enter a boom bust cycle and then starve to death en masse.
The closing of the slaughter houses and the BLM mustangs has conflated into one issue. And I'm going to tell you something else, it is the tip of
the iceberg. It is a fraction of the suffering I have seen over the last few years.
This is how it works. So you have a family that isn't very wealthy but they have some land and some cows, so they have some horses, and their
daughter loves horses so they have a few more than they strictly need maybe. Maybe she shows Western Pleasure, or halter or does barrels or maybe she
just rides with her friends. Now, when these horses had a bottom price of 800.00 they could sell a few, offset the price of feed and have fewer
mouths to feed. Suddenly none of those young untrained animals are worth anything, and they couldn't sell them. They couldn't even give them away.
So they now have maybe 7 or 8 mouths to feed, train, doctor and look after instead of four or five. This family has just incurred an additional
annual expense of about 7-10k and they didn't have that much financial wiggle room in the first place. They are overwhelmed. This was a typical
situation, especially in the first few years.
The other Big One is what I call the "production" breeders. The ones who produce mostly low end, often grade, but usable horses and sold them cheap
to be used as ranch horses. They usually had a lot of land and ran these horses range pony and free to be brought in a couple times a year to be
doctored or take the weanling age young stock off the mares. They would usually have at least 30 or 40 head. They had been doing it this way for
generations. Suddenly their young stock that they relied upon is no longer worth anything and they couldn't even give them away (not that most of
these people tried), but now, they have 50 or 60 horses running out there. They are facing financial ruin in a few years and they no longer have the
emotional, financial or even physical resources to take care of these animals or even feed them.
These are just two examples of how it could go down and there are many variations of it, but it happened over and over and over again. I can tell
you for a fact that all of these people mistakenly thought that the market would pick up, that this was only temporary, and many of them kept right on
breeding the way they normally would, until they hit critical mass. Then they turned them loose (often onto federal land), or shot them, or let them
starve. Now, not all of these people made moral decisions, but plenty of them were just caught flat footed and didn't know what to do.
Every single one of you keeps saying that these animals deserve our respect, and they do, but you are ignoring and have been ignoring the economic
situation of the people that these animals depend on because it is inconvenient for you. Even worse, you are ignoring the culture of the people that
these animals depend upon because you don't agree with it. Well, just because you don't like how they see and do things doesn't mean that your animal
"advocacy" does not effect them and the horses that they have. So all of you just barreled straight ahead and made decisions based upon how you want
things to be, not how they are.
The reality is, the land those horses are on cannot support the greater numbers. The greater numbers are there because people turned animals loose
and no one wanted to bother with a mustang when they couldn't get rid of the ones that they had. They don't want them because now horses are cheap or
even free so why pay an adoption fee and gas to haul a wild one back?
From the very beginning I said this would happen. From the very beginning I told all of you this is what we would see. None of you listened then and
none of you will listen now. You'll just shrug and say it's not your fault, but it is, it really REALLY is. There was a quote I saw that said
something like no snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche. Well guess what snowflakes, here we are. I hate all of you that are pushing this
down the hill from behind your keyboards even more than all of the people that kept breeding.
I think this is my swan song on ATS, which makes me sad because this my internet home. But I can't just let this go anymore. I can't abide by this,
so kick me off. Personally Springer, Tetra50 and even the OP (who has been admittedly quite fair to me in this thread), and everyone else who has
made the emotional argument instead of the rational one, I want to punch you people in the face. I think you should have to be there when the BLM
pulls the proverbial trigger. I think you should have to help put these animals down, because you have made this situation just as much as those
people who kept breeding. You pretend that you have a factual argument while you continue to ignore the facts that you don't like, the facts that
might mean you are doing it wrong, that you are making it worse for these horses not better. You have killed these animals with your keyboard warrior
rhetoric just as much as those BLM employees that will be doing your dirty work. Every time you ignored the reality of the situation because it
doesn't fit your world view, because you wanted a simple answer to a complex problem, every time you ignored those of us on the ground and in the
trenches seeing the fallout from your ego driven idiocy saying you are making sure these animals suffer you have put one more horse in those BLM pens.
I've been working. I've taken them in. I've fed them, doctored them and tried to heal their minds, and all of you just keep sending them my way. I
hate you people. I hate you so much, there are not sufficient words in the English language to describe it. I hate you because you choose to not be
accountable for what you have done, but mostly I hate you because you CHOOSE to be ignorant and sway hearts and minds with that chosen ignorance and
these animals are suffering for it. The road to hell is paved with good intentions I guess, and personally, I think that you people deserve to burn
in it for what you have done.