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Bill Clinton says 'Make America Great Again' is racist

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posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:07 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert
How is demanding that people follow our border laws racist?


I did not say it was.




posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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Criminal ineptitude.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: introvert

So who ya voting for Intro?



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Then what policies are you referring to of Trumps that appeal to racist?



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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The question is did Bill actually remember that he used the exact same phrase when he said it?

You know he didn't or he never would have said it . How about that for some context?



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert

Then what policies are you referring to of Trumps that appeal to racist?


It's not just the policies alone. It's the rhetoric and policies combined that may appeal to racists.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: introvert

So who ya voting for Intro?


Mickey Mouse.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: introvert

LOL GREAT ANSWER!



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: introvert


It's not just the policies alone. It's the rhetoric and policies combined that may appeal to racists.


HA!!!!!

Ok, then I find Hillary's rhetoric and policies appeal to people that hate men. For god sakes, one of her biggest claims is vote for me cause I am a woman. Clearly this would appeal to man haters.

So you agree that she should be called out for appealing to man haters, right?



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: introvert


It's not just the policies alone. It's the rhetoric and policies combined that may appeal to racists.


HA!!!!!

Ok, then I find Hillary's rhetoric and policies appeal to people that hate men. For god sakes, one of her biggest claims is vote for me cause I am a woman. Clearly this would appeal to man haters.

So you agree that she should be called out for appealing to man haters, right?


Sure. Call her out all you like.

If you think discussing unequal pay between sexes to be hateful towards men and is equal to racism, there is nothing I can do to change your mind.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

There is a difference between rhetoric and a campaign slogan.


Not really.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

There is a difference between rhetoric and a campaign slogan.


Not really.


Then you need to learn the difference.

That is not my problem.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Coming from a guy who's mistresses are all White.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

There is a difference between rhetoric and a campaign slogan.


Not really.


Then you need to learn the difference.

That is not my problem.


One could say the same about you.

Using it as rhetoric carries much more meaning than using it as a slogan.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: UKTruth

I don't think that is the whole of the meaning when Trump says it, but he knows what a certain segment of the population that like him will hear.

When Clinton said it, I don't think he was trying to reach that particular demographic . Just a hunch. Clinton said it once and he probably didn't even write the ad. It is Trump's slogan.


A typical hypocritical leftist response. When I say "whatever words" those words are pc, nice etc. But when THEY say "whatever words" those same words are racist, sexist, negative, hurtful etc. The left just can't stand being judged by the same standards.


For more than two decades the Clintons have been issuing calls to make America great, great, great again. They offer a simple recipe for restoring lost national greatness: elect one of them president.

In 2007, presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton wrote in a piece for The New York Times (excerpted from a Foreign Affairs article) that the United States had been losing influence in the world. We needed to be guided by the goodness of “the American idea. If we can live up to that idea, if we can exercise our power wisely and well, we can make America great again.”

Bill Clinton pitched in several months later in South Carolina, where his wife was on the verge of a humiliating defeat by surging rival Barack Obama, according to a January 27, 2008 report in the Chicago Tribune. In a radio ad to what had once been a friendly Democratic electorate, Bill Clinton said, “We created more than 22 million new jobs, moved 8 million people out of poverty and turned our economy around. It’s time for another comeback; time to make America great again.”

It wasn’t the first time Bill Clinton had bemoaned American decline. His 1992 campaign was salted with promises of national greatness. He’d begun that improbably successful campaign against Republican incumbent George H. W. Bush with this: “Together we can make America great again, and with your help, your heart, your devotion, and your efforts, we can build a community of hope that will inspire the world.” www.insidesources.com...
Oh yes, there are many more times Bill Clinton used that SAME phrase.

But what's with all the negative with that phrase? This is the United States of AMERICA. This country of AMERICA is full of AMERICANS. In fact, the percentage of AMERICANS in AMERICA is about 85%. We are voting for a president for the United states of AMERICA, to lead AMERICANS.

What do you want......to have America be sub-par and be worse? Yea all, let's make America crumby, ok? Sound good to you?

ETA: According to WIKI, Here are the slogans used for presidential campaigns since 1960.

[e]x1960[edit]
"A time for greatness 1960" – U.S. presidential campaign theme of John F. Kennedy (Kennedy also used "We Can Do Better").

1964[edit]
"All the way with LBJ" – 1964 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Lyndon B. Johnson
"In Your Heart, You Know He's Right" – 1964 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Barry Goldwater
"In Your Guts, You Know He's Nuts" – 1964 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Lyndon B. Johnson supporters, answering Goldwater's slogan

1968[edit]
"Some People Talk Change, Others Cause It" – Hubert Humphrey, 1968
"This time, vote like your whole world depended on it" – (1968) slogan of Richard Nixon, written by Norman Herwood.
"To Begin Anew..." – Gene McCarthy 1968[7]
"Nixon's the One" – Richard M. Nixon, 1968

1972[edit]
"Nixon Now" – Richard M. Nixon, 1972[8] (also, "Nixon Now, More than Ever")
"Acid, Amnesty, and Abortion for All" – 1972 anti-Democratic Party slogan, from a statement made to reporter Bob Novak by Missouri Senator Thomas F. Eagleton (as related in Novak's 2007 memoir, Prince of Darkness)

1976[edit]
"He’s making us proud again" – Gerald Ford
"Not Just Peanuts" – Jimmy Carter[1]
"A Leader, For a Change" – Jimmy Carter

1980[edit]
"Are You Better Off Than You Were Four Years Ago?" and "Let's Make America Great Again" – presidential campaign of Ronald Reagan

1984[edit]
"It's Morning Again in America" – Ronald Reagan Slogan for 1984 Presidential Election
"Where's the Beef?" – used by Walter Mondale

1988[edit]
"Kinder, Gentler Nation" – George H. W. Bush[1]
Thousand Points of Light - George H.W. Bush

1992[edit]
"For People, for a Change" – 1992 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Bill Clinton
"It's Time to Change America" – a theme of the 1992 U.S. presidential campaign of Bill Clinton
"Putting People First" – 1992 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Bill Clinton
"Ross for Boss" – a 1992 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of independent presidential candidate H. Ross Perot.

1996[edit]
"Building a bridge to the twenty-first century" – Bill Clinton

2000–present[edit]

2000[edit]
"Leadership for the New Millennium" – Al Gore presidential campaign
"Prosperity and Progress" – alternative slogan of the Al Gore presidential campaign
"Compassionate Conservatism" – George W Bush presidential campaign

2004[edit]
"A Safer World and a More Hopeful America" – George W. Bush presidential campaign
"A Stronger America" – John Kerry 2004
"Let America Be America Again" – John Kerry presidential campaign alternative slogan
"Dean for America" – Howard Dean campaign slogan

2008[edit]
"Yes We Can" – Barack Obama campaign chant, 2008
"Change We Can Believe In." Also, simply: "Change." – 2008 US presidential campaign slogan of Barack Obama
"Change We Need." and "Change." – 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Barack Obama during the general election.
"Fired up! Ready to go!" – Barack Obama campaign chant, 2008
"Hope" – 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Barack Obama during the general election.
"Country First" – 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of John McCain
"Reform, prosperity and peace" – 2008 U.S. Presidential motto of John McCain.[9][10]
"People Fighting Back", and "We'll fight back" – Ralph Nader campaign slogan
"Ready for change, ready to lead" – Hillary Clinton campaign slogan, also "Big Challenges, Real Solutions: Time to Pick a President," "In to Win," "Working for Change, Working for You," and "The strength and experience to make change happen."[11]

2012[edit]
"Forward" – 2012 U.S. Presidential slogan of Barack Obama.
"Believe in America" – 2012 U.S. Presidential slogan of Mitt Romney.
"Restore America Now" – 2012 U.S. Presidential slogan of Ron Paul.
"The People's President" – Gary Johnson campaign slogan
"A Green New Deal for America" – Official slogan of the Jill Stein campaign
"Citizenship Matters" – Virgil Goode campaign slogan
"Obama Isn't Working" – slogan used by Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign, a takeoff of "Labour Isn't Working," similar campaign previously used by the British Conservative Party
"Restore Our Future" – slogan used by Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign



Apparently, there are a lot of racists, both D & R based on that slogan or similar ones.

edit on 7-9-2016 by StoutBroux because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

There is a difference between rhetoric and a campaign slogan.


Not really.


Then you need to learn the difference.

That is not my problem.


Using it as rhetoric carries much more meaning than using it as a slogan.


Exactly my point.

Thanks!



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: introvert
But you are just asserting that he is racist. You have no proof of it. Then you jump to the conclusion that I am comparing racism with equal pay, implying that Trump is a definitively appealing to racist.

Nice tactic, but I am pretty sure those reading can see the squirming you are doing.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: introvert


It's not just the policies alone. It's the rhetoric and policies combined that may appeal to racists.


HA!!!!!

Ok, then I find Hillary's rhetoric and policies appeal to people that hate men. For god sakes, one of her biggest claims is vote for me cause I am a woman. Clearly this would appeal to man haters.

So you agree that she should be called out for appealing to man haters, right?


Sure. Call her out all you like.

If you think discussing unequal pay between sexes to be hateful towards men and is equal to racism, there is nothing I can do to change your mind.



Come on! We all heard her cheering on her supporters like Albright telling women, especially Bernie supporters during the primary, that they were going to hell!

Seriously, it is all proproganda in politics. Yes, context is important, but in reality not proproganda clips! I get so frustrated when folks cry about context and then, immediately close their ears and eyes based on perceived biases!

I will admit this election is extremely frustrating. Trump even being a celebrity, per say, does not have enough REAL detail facts to be able to put his words into context. Yes, he is a gamble. Clinton, though, has a much better record to put her words in context. Unfortunately, for her, it is not good.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

There is a difference between rhetoric and a campaign slogan.


Not really.


Then you need to learn the difference.

That is not my problem.


Using it as rhetoric carries much more meaning than using it as a slogan.


Exactly my point.

Thanks!


And the Clintons used it as rhetoric, but Trump uses it as a slogan. So what does that say again with regards to this as racist rhetoric?

Remember, rhetoric is meant to persuade people of something. So the Clintons, I guess by your own arguments were persuading racists to vote for them using racist rhetoric.

Trump is using it as a slogan, not as persuasive rhetoric? This is what I have cobbled together from your own words.
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posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:25 PM
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But you are just asserting that he is racist.


I've done no such thing. Don't make things up. Argue the points I have made. I've even stated that I don't think he is racist.



Nice tactic, but I am pretty sure those reading can see the squirming you are doing.


Argue the topic. Do not appeal to those reading for confirmation bias.




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