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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 12:35 AM
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Actually he was trying to help Ukraine...since Ukraine military is nothing but old Russian military equipment, not very modern enough to fight newer equipment being given to the separatists.


Help Ukraine? Is that like how they "helped" Georgia and Chechnya when they sent in subversive CIA assets to cause uprisings and start war against Russia?



WHat would you expect the newest propaganda machine for the Russian government to say...I would be more worried if they didn't say something like that.


Except I also posted the CIA recruiting pages as a source: www....ciaagentedu.org - CIA is hiring operatives for Georgia with Chemical or bio-engineering, nuclear or physical science.

So the CIA is a propaganda machine for...uh, Russia, you say? er


How to Become a CIA Agent | CIA Agent Education
www.ciaagentedu.org/
... Agent · Security Professional · Targeting Analyst · Technical Security Officer · Home |; Contact Us |. ©2016 www.ciaagentedu.org...




WHy not they may be called on for their experience in those fields that Georgia may not have people who are...nothing really odd.

Well, when you connect the recruiting to the area, to the claims that can be found all over the web, not just from RT. I think it paints a clear picture:

At present many reports from different sources saythat the US is still developing a new generation of weapons which will undermine and possibly violate international treaties on biological and chemical warfare. Quoting American investigative journalist Jeffrey Silverman, whose information is based on Georgian media reports from April,

“There are a number of labs, strewn across Eastern Europe; these are umbilically linked to the Biological Weapon Proliferation Prevention (BWPP) programme and various projects within it, and this is a cover for what is most likely an offensive programme.
If the strains turn out to be antibiotic resistant, ongoing research into viruses that eat bacteria and attack infections which are antibiotic resistant can be quickly accessed.Whoever has such information controls the bioweapons battleground”.


Oh, you thought the controlled media in the US was going to out their operations? Okay...LOL

www.veteranstoday.com...
www.dreadlines.com...
usdefensewatch.com...

Oh look at this, Zika virus in Russia, gives US an excuse to mention its biolabs

...to BBC Russia that “Americans” could be intentionally infecting mosquitos with the Zika virus in a lab in Tbilisi, Georgia.


I'm sure its a coincidence that the Rockefellers put Zika-Virus on Ice back in 1947.

Im sure its a coincidence you will find (if you dig deep enough) Rothschild companies funding bio-tech & bio-engineering companies....


Tel: (212) 757 6000 Venture capital firm affiliated with Rothschild Inc. (USA) with intestments in genetic engineering companies. NEW ENGLAND BIOLABS INC.


ROTHSCHILD ASSET MANAGEMENT INC 13F Portfolio Holdings Filing For Q3 2015. Cleveland Biolabs


Business Intelligence Specialist at New England Biolabs ... Past, Analyste Financier M&A at Edmond de Rothschild Corporate Finance,


And what have the Rothschilds been doing in Russia? Not much,(not as much as they'd like) they aren't very welcome there.


Through JNR the Rothschilds run their operations inside Russia and Eastern Europe in conjunction with the Russian oligarchy. As previously reported, Nathaniel Rothschild, as director of JNR, is the chief advisor to Russian aluminum oligarch Oleg Deripaska and Deripaska's Rusal, the world's largest aluminum company, in which Rothschild is also heavily invested. In addition to his relationship to Oleg Deripaska, Nathaniel Rothschild's best friend is another Russian billionaire oligarch, Roman Abramovich. An earlier operation, the Wellsian, Open Russia Foundation, which was set up by the Rothschilds with Russian oligarch Khodorkovsky, was shut down in 2006 by Russian authorities after Khodorkovsky's criminal conviction.

archive.larouchepac.com...

I could get into a whole lot more with Soros (who are funded by the family), in turn funded Pussy Riot & FEMEN, **, all you need to know is the public story on it was BS, and Soros stopped funding it when they announced an Israel branch.



There are more but that should show enough that he lives on lying.

The question wasn't whether a nation state told a lie or not, it was whether or not he was telling the truth about the CIA starting subversive wars in Chechnya, Georgia & Crimea, and guess what, they were!

If they just stayed the #### out of the region, there'd be no problems.

How Russia was framed for the Gerogian conflict - Complete media compliance in the West

Fox News cuts off girl telling the truth about Russian conflict.

Saudi - CIA Terrorists in Chechnya

Chechen Leader points out ISIS leader was CIA operative - RT Source but you can find elsewhere.

Surprise? Shouldn't be...




Whoops, cover up your tats next time guys.

I don't even have to mention Crimea because I think it's official (although downplayed or ignored) the US had CIA operatives in Crimea and they funded and facilitated the entire thing.

Here's the deal, the banking powers reside in Israel. They fund discontent & subversion through NGOs, Putin blocked those NGOs from Russia. Every story you read in the Western media may as well be Banker/Israel/US propaganda, and its central to their goals of world domination.

Russia doesn't have ~800 military bases worldwide, the US does. Russia doesn't have a Zionist lobby (AIPAC) that prevents them from making autonomous actions, (the US does, even from mainstream sources this is obvious), this book was written from entirely mainstream sources. & it got denounced as "anti-semitic", the problem is, Zionists are not inherently Jewish, anyone can be a Zionist, and anyone can be part of the Military Industrial Complex of Israel & US. I don't blame US citizens or Israeli citizens for their governments actions, but until these nations weed out the corruption that is controlling their countries and using the money & resources stolen from them by central banking powers, they are facilitating the next world war and a heinous crime against humanity.

End those lies first.
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: boncho

You realize the links for CIA recruiting you provided are not CIA government links right?

Here you go. A link directly to their currently open recruiting positions.-

www.cia.gov...


As far as Georgia and its war with Russia you may want to research that as well. Russia pulled the same stunt they used in Transnistria, Moldova that they used to justify their invasion and illegal occupation of Georgian territory and their invasion and illegal occupation of Ukraine's territory.
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 12:43 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: boncho

You realize the links for CIA recruiting you provided are not CIA government links right?

Here you go -

www.cia.gov...


So you think someone is impersonating the CIA? Isn't that a crime. Aren't you a police officer? Get on it!...

It's through one of their contractors. Oops! shouldn't have said that, I just outed one of their (unrelated) operations. Whoopsy. I have it screen capped so if they know what Im talking about & take it down...whatever. Im guessing it's to be able to hire out people and then disavow them later. Probably purposely targeting the people too dumb to go to the .gov site since that is the personality type you'd tend to disavow once they've served their purpose.
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 12:47 AM
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Feel free to link me to where they are listed as a contractor for the CIA please.


ETA - never mind because it does not exist. They are not a contract agency for the CIA. From their own website -


CIAAgentEDU.org is an independent resource dedicated to helping the next generation of CIA professionals learn about the many fascinating jobs within the agency, and what it takes to qualify for these jobs. This independent resource details the education standards, experience requirements and other important considerations involved in securing a career with the world’s most effective intelligence gathering organization.


The other clue is this tidbit of info from the website -

Powered by Campus Explorer

Care to update your incorrect claim?
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 12:52 AM
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LOL



ETA - never mind because it does not exist. They are not a contract agency for the CIA. From their own website -


Do they get paid? How do they function? For free? Independent simply means they do not have government links to the agency and do not fall under government purview or regulations.

Every military contractor in the defense industry is "independent", however if they serve the CIA or whoever, they are their contractors.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: boncho

Yeah they arent a CIA contract school.. nice try though.

Here - read since you missed it when I pointed it out -

www.campusexplorer.com...


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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: boncho
Contractee, or subcontractor.
The one who issues the contract is the contractor.

Do they have a contract from the government?

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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:01 AM
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Also you posted -


Except I also posted the CIA recruiting pages as a source: www....ciaagentedu.org - CIA is hiring operatives for Georgia with Chemical or bio-engineering, nuclear or physical science.


Your link does not work. Can you fix your link as I want to see what division is hiring for the claims made. Or did you intentionally add the extra dots to break the link to make it impossible to verify the claim you made?
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:02 AM
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Good plan.
Go after a Gish gallop one step at a time.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xcathdra
Good plan.
Go after a Gish gallop one step at a time.


If he can support the claims and im wrong then I will gladly admit it and apologize. With that said I dont think its right to just let stuff go when the claims / info is dubious at best and doesn't fit with any established CIA or federal government recruiting formats.
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:06 AM
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I agree with your approach.

Gish galloping gets used a lot on ATS. With some it's a habit.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:17 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
Also you posted -


Except I also posted the CIA recruiting pages as a source: www....ciaagentedu.org - CIA is hiring operatives for Georgia with Chemical or bio-engineering, nuclear or physical science.


Your link does not work. Cant you fix your link as I want to see what division is hiring for the claims made. Or did you intentionally add the extra dots to break the link to make it impossible to verify the claim you made?


Broken URL - hit/"quote" -scan to area, copy+paste www.ciaagentedu.org...






posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:22 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xcathdra

I agree with your approach.

Gish galloping gets used a lot on ATS. With some it's a habit.



So you believe they are committing a federal crime? You should report them. Follow up with posted emails and correspondence from the agency you choose to report to. Thanks.


TITLE 18, PART I, CHAPTER 43
§ 912. Officer or employee of the United States
“Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

I worked with an officer of the CIA, both before and after his employment with the CIA. He was not allowed to disclose his employment while actively serving. He represented himself as an employee of an innocuous government agency during his employment.


Is it illegal to pass oneself off as a CIA agent?

Now, color me silly, but Im pretty sure recruiting for an organization would be considered acting under its authority.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:22 AM
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dbl post
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posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:25 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: boncho
Contractee, or subcontractor.
The one who issues the contract is the contractor.



Semantics.





Do they have a contract from the government?


Do an experiment, set up a similar site and Ill report it, see how long it stays up. Or maybe a magic trick to distract people instead of semantics on nomenclature? The bunny in a hat is a classic.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:26 AM
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So the info doesn't support the intent of your post then. They arent recruiting for operations against Georgia or Russia but to assist Georgia in keeping certain items out of the hands of terrorists.

Secondly it specifically says residents of Georgia.

Here is the part you omitted for some reason -


Clandestine CIA agents work to cultivate foreign assets and collect intelligence that helps U.S. security. Foreign drug cartels pose a serious threat to the country’s security, and the Justice Department has reported that both the Federation and Gulf Mexican cartels are active in Atlanta.

In recent years, the CIA has been increasingly involved in collecting intelligence on the structure and activities of foreign, large-scale drug trafficking organizations in an effort to help domestic law enforcement officials reign them in.

CIA agents also provide information on potential terrorists to help counter-terrorism efforts in the U.S. Both domestic terrorists and those with ties to foreign jihadists have been identified and brought to justice in Georgia in recent years. The Counter-Terrorism Task Force (CTTF) was formed in cooperation with the CIA and was created to help coordinate efforts to fight terrorism in Georgia.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:27 AM
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Do an experiment, set up a similar site and Ill report it, see how long it stays up.

Why should I?
You made the claim.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:28 AM
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Your the one claiming its a federal crime.

A Gish gallop is a person to floods with a wall of text, with false claims mixed among factual statements making it difficult to counter.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:30 AM
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As was pointed out to you, and you apparently ignored, they arent claiming to be a part of the CIA. They state they are a resource for people who may wish to be employed by the CIA and offer resources as to what educational background would be beneficial for hire.

You made the claim they are a CIA contracted school, which they arent.

Stop trying to deflect from your false claim and move on.



posted on Sep, 14 2016 @ 01:32 AM
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and yet the school / website you claim was a CIA contracted school is not listed. Go figure..


A hint -

Just because CIA is in the link doesnt make it officially attached to the CIA. Use your noggin and some common sense for a change. You are smarter than this.




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