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Why are feminists voting for Hillary ?

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posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
To the OP: I can't speak for all feminists, but I'm clear on why I'm voting for her. SaturnFX nailed it. Besides, Hillary has done MANY things that have helped women through the years... One case (that she couldn't get out of) 40 years ago doesn't just wipe out what she's done for women since then...

How Hillary Has Championed Women's Rights


Exactly.

Furthermore, feminists are NOT "all about women." We (and I can speak as someone who joined the movement in 1970 and has been a feminist since then) want fair treatment for all..... and this includes Native Americans, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. Issues involving poverty, the environment, and the justice system as well as immigration are topics that appear in our forums and our mailing lists.

She's been involved in health care issues which is a big one for many women (because we often get the short end of the stick in medical treatment) and spearheaded efforts to identify what we now call Gulf War Syndrome.

Republicans seem to be afraid of her. They've been trying to take her down for 25 years.

Trump's ... made money, had a hobby of dating and marrying supermodel foreigners, doesn't even bother to spend much time with his own children (letting the mothers raise them), he's cheated workers out of money, offered bribes, failed to follow through when he says he's giving charitable donations, etc, etc.

You can vote for him. We're not.




posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: DeadFoot

originally posted by: AboveBoard
I would like to talk about her real flaws, not all this sensationalist made-up crap, but hey, that's all that seems to be happening.


Ok; let's keep it simple, then.

What is her motive to lie so much?


If you look at how often she's misspoken/lied and compare it to Trump... I wonder what you consider "so much" and how you would characterize HIS lies/misstatements/waffling.



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: AboveBoard


Now you get to point and say "Crooked Hillary!" and "Lock Her Up!!" because of all that sweet tax money the Republicans have invested in smearing her name, regardless of actual guilt. I realize that's not a popular thing to say on ATS. People here revel in believing the most base and unsubstantiated accusations, and are willing to gobble up the most twisted interpretations of events because, frankly, it feels right to do that, even if its factually wrong. Politics is an emotional art, not a factual one.




This is not just Republicans saying Hillary is crooked and lock her up, I'm saying it. I'm a Democrat and can't stomach Hillary.

People are voting for her because the democratic party shoved her down our throats, when they had other choices. I would have voted for Bernie for sure, now my vote will go to Jill Stein, because I can't stomach Trump.

When a women, or a man can get up, open their mouth for 30 minutes and make 500k, then don't represent the masses here in the USA, but rather live in a fantasy world. And pointing to other politicians that did it, or do it doesn't make things right.

We can tell everyone and pretend that the punch tastes wonderful, but when a turd is floating in the punch, it still smells and tastes like a turd.
edit on 5-9-2016 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: AboveBoard


Now you get to point and say "Crooked Hillary!" and "Lock Her Up!!" because of all that sweet tax money the Republicans have invested in smearing her name, regardless of actual guilt. I realize that's not a popular thing to say on ATS. People here revel in believing the most base and unsubstantiated accusations, and are willing to gobble up the most twisted interpretations of events because, frankly, it feels right to do that, even if its factually wrong. Politics is an emotional art, not a factual one.




This is not just Republicans saying Hillary is crooked and lock her up, I'm saying it. I'm a Democrat and can't stomach Hillary.

People are voting for her because the democratic party shoved her down our throats, when they had other choices. I would have voted for Bernie for sure, now my vote will go to Jill Stein, because I can't stomach Trump.



I'm non-affiliated.

I'm voting for Hillary because she best represents my positions. Period!



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Whatever your feelings are about Hilary Clinton, you've used a very poor choice to represent it with. The defence of an alleged rapist is extremely old news, and it's a sad one. If you want to present a populist appeal to ignore facts, great, but why not actually stick with the actual truth. The link below is from Snopes. I appreciate that not everyone is a fan of a fact checking website, but if you google 'Hilary Clinton defended a rapist' you will see other sites offering fairly much the same info.

www.snopes.com...

I appreciate you don't like HRC, that's absolutely your right, as a non American I think you are all in a bit of a bind (if I asked why a feminist would vote for Trump I would find any reason quite laughable, but I won't because people will say this thread isn't about Trump). But it's always best to use actual facts rather than keep feeding the same old half truths that don't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny.


Whoa! A very articulate and respectful response that appeals to reason without insults or a hint of negativity?! You sure you're in the right place, buddy?


As for the OP: Hazardous1408 & SaturnFX described it perfectly in their initial posts. For many of us, this election is more about voting against one of the 2 major candidates than voting for one of them. If from 1 to 10 Hillary is a 3 on feminist issues, then Trump is like a -73. Do you really expect proud feminists to support this guy?


Trump is that rare breed of politician that can get even the fiercest of rivals to unite against him. He's kind of like the movie villain whose real plan is to pretend to be so evil that it forces the world to come together. And right before the knockout blow, he sheds a tear, cracks a smile, and says "United you stand but divided you fall... my job is now done", leaving the "heroes" to realize his true intentions.



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd

If you look at how often she's misspoken/lied and compare it to Trump... I wonder what you consider "so much" and how you would characterize HIS lies/misstatements/waffling.



How pathetic we have become as a nation, to have to choose between two absolutely worthless lying, cheating, corrupt and useless people, that have absolutely nothing in common with the average person. Instead of people voting their conscience, they will vote the least of the two evils.

The fix is truly in and we are all drinking the cool-aid, enjoy.




posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: Byrd

If you look at how often she's misspoken/lied and compare it to Trump... I wonder what you consider "so much" and how you would characterize HIS lies/misstatements/waffling.



How pathetic we have become as a nation, to have to choose between two absolutely worthless lying, cheating, corrupt and useless people, that have absolutely nothing in common with the average person. Instead of people voting their conscience, they will vote the least of the two evils.

The fix is truly in and we are all drinking the cool-aid, enjoy.


Are you assuming this type of dilemma is new to democracy? Go back and look at the political ads and campaigns of the past. People were just as bad then and sometimes even worse.

Plus there's nothing wrong with voting against a candidate who's actively attacking your priorities & preferences.



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: Byrd

If you look at how often she's misspoken/lied and compare it to Trump... I wonder what you consider "so much" and how you would characterize HIS lies/misstatements/waffling.



How pathetic we have become as a nation, to have to choose between two absolutely worthless lying, cheating, corrupt and useless people, that have absolutely nothing in common with the average person. Instead of people voting their conscience, they will vote the least of the two evils.

The fix is truly in and we are all drinking the cool-aid, enjoy.


Are you assuming this type of dilemma is new to democracy? Go back and look at the political ads and campaigns of the past. People were just as bad then and sometimes even worse.

Plus there's nothing wrong with voting against a candidate who's actively attacking your priorities & preferences.


The thing is - - the presidency is not ONE person.

I vote for the one that seems to be going politically in the direction I want to go.

I think I rely more on the support team, then the figurehead.



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT




I think you'll find that many feminists consider Hillary too corrupt to support.


Those are the most intelligent and best educated ones then, they don't have any cognitive dissonance going on.



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




The report that Trump had asked an advisor why we can't use nukes was reported by Joe Scarborough from a source.


Funny how "a source" who reports anything bad about Hillary, gets thrown out as unacceptable or is said to be an outright lie.



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: Gryphon66




The report that Trump had asked an advisor why we can't use nukes was reported by Joe Scarborough from a source.


Funny how "a source" who reports anything bad about Hillary, gets thrown out as unacceptable or is said to be an outright lie.


Perhaps that's because so many "sources" about Hillary ultimately turn out to be absolute horsepucks.

Perhaps the Scarborough story got legs because it's very easy for most people to believe that Trump is that uninformed?

People believe what they believe, eh?



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 10:50 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: Byrd

If you look at how often she's misspoken/lied and compare it to Trump... I wonder what you consider "so much" and how you would characterize HIS lies/misstatements/waffling.



How pathetic we have become as a nation, to have to choose between two absolutely worthless lying, cheating, corrupt and useless people, that have absolutely nothing in common with the average person. Instead of people voting their conscience, they will vote the least of the two evils.

The fix is truly in and we are all drinking the cool-aid, enjoy.


Are you assuming this type of dilemma is new to democracy? Go back and look at the political ads and campaigns of the past. People were just as bad then and sometimes even worse.

Plus there's nothing wrong with voting against a candidate who's actively attacking your priorities & preferences.


The thing is - - the presidency is not ONE person.

I vote for the one that seems to be going politically in the direction I want to go.

I think I rely more on the support team, then the figurehead.

I can appreciate that. That logic should also be applied for all other major candidates, especially mayors and governors. Their teams, advisors, and appointees are just as important at the State and local level.



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Your last meme is false. Hillary was not fired from the Watergate investigation.
She was fired from House Judiciary committee



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: ssenerawa

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Your last meme is false. Hillary was not fired from the Watergate investigation.
She was fired from House Judiciary committee


You got links to prove that?

Don't bother. Its a complete lie.



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: Annee
I kept reading she wasn't terminated, however her behavior was found to be unethical but she was no longer in office so they couldn't do anything.

Sais they would've fired her if they could've

www.snopes.com...



posted on Sep, 5 2016 @ 11:51 PM
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originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Annee
I kept reading she wasn't terminated, however her behavior was found to be unethical but she was no longer in office so they couldn't do anything.

Sais they would've fired her if they could've

www.snopes.com...


Who claims her behavior is unethical?

Start thee.



posted on Sep, 6 2016 @ 01:58 AM
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Yeah, and she always carries around hot sauce. "It it working?"
Yankees fan number one!!! Or was it another football team? Wait, did they even win the Stanley cup that year?
Class act she is. Run the country gooder she will. Make the country a bestest place she can.
Good god, is it Novemenr yet!?!?



posted on Sep, 6 2016 @ 03:39 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

From you enlightenedservant that is high praise indeed, thank you.



posted on Sep, 6 2016 @ 04:26 AM
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originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: enlightenedservant

From you enlightenedservant that is high praise indeed, thank you.






posted on Sep, 6 2016 @ 08:28 AM
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As a feminist myself. Strong educated woman who has lived half a century. I would say vote your wallet. Vote what's best for you and your family, do not vote based on someone's gender. Sure it would be lovely to finally have a woman President. This lady Hillary has too many question marks on her for head. She is not the right Lady. I would be nice to see some lady from the middle class step up and campaign. My neighbor is a Harvard Law graduate in her thirties. There are lots of possible people who have not stepped up. We need a business person who will change up what's going on in America. Socialism has hurt those who are working hard. My health care is crap. All you have to do is get sick and your families finances are in trouble. We spent too much on war. We need to focus on ourselves and our country.







 
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