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Let's Talk Paradoxes!

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posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 12:41 AM
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originally posted by: facedye
I'd like this thread to be a bit more of a discussion than a presentation, simply because paradoxes are all the same.

All you need to have a well functioning paradox is this:

- Acceptable premises
- The premises all follow from one another in agreement
- These premises all logically lead to an unacceptable conclusion

I have a bachelor's in philosophy and take the practice very seriously. This topic by far is the most intriguing to me, as it so peculiarly outlines our limitations of understanding the world around us. Not only that, but all paradoxes are of the same format! It's a beautiful equation that we simply can't argue out of.

Here's a popular one:

God is omnipotent.
As the creator of the universe and all things within it, it is all powerful.
With this, then, can god create a boulder large enough that it cannot lift the object?
If it can create a boulder large enough, it is not omnipotent.
If it cannot, then it again and ultimately is not all powerful.

Who can reason themselves out of this?



i'd like to read a few responses before throwing in my additional 2 cents!

What does ATS think this means about the way we understand our environment?

That's already been solved. When God considers that he can't lift the rock, he can't. But the moment he considers that he can, he can. "Paradox" solved.




posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 06:08 AM
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a reply to: Aristotelian1

ah! that seems plausible.



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: Aristotelian1

How is this paradox solved?

if god is omnipotent (all knowing and all powerful), then god can do anything.

if god can create a rock it cannot lift, how can it be all powerful?

if god cannot create a rock it can't lift, how is it all knowing?




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posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: facedye
a reply to: Aristotelian1

How is this paradox solved?

if god is omnipotent (all knowing and all powerful), then god can do anything.

if god can create a rock it cannot lift, how can it be all powerful?

if god cannot create a rock it can't lift, how is it all knowing?



“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

- Epicurus



posted on Sep, 16 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Epicurus just so happens to be my favorite philosopher!

however, this doesn't get you out of the logical entanglement.

why do you believe that it does?



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