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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Logarock
It's not a reaction to the left. It's a reaction to Neo-Nazi's being unable to gain ground in the mainstream with all their visible extremism.
You really have to be a moron to think that white people have lost even an inch of ground in the West or that there's an even an attempt worth mentioning to suppress white people.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
After that I posted the tweets from the pool producer who 100% contradicted garbage pulled off YouTube by TCT. I also posted a tweet from an AP reporter who confirmed those tweets. After the argument was already delivered, I made a quip, the purpose of which was to shame the horde of Trumpeteers who'd fallen for what amounts to a hoax because of the undue credibility they'd ascribed to an alt-right propaganda blog — because it was an alt-right propaganda "news blog." It certainly wasn't because TCT had offered anything substantial to prove their claim.
Do I need to start pasting excerpts of you using all sorts of labels of your own? How about this one:
"Don't try to turn this on conservatives, liberal ones are the ones making the argument that illegals are good for the economy, and claiming to have the moral high ground."
Really? This is the best you could come up with? How about you put things in proper context? I was replying to this statement:
"Yup. All 200 of 'em."
In what way is this using the term alt-right to dismiss an argument? The argument he was making was that there are 200 alt-righters in existence. Disingenuous much?
Are you really going to pretend that any of the statements of mine that you've so helpfully pasted fit the bill? Can't win with facts? I'm all about the facts. In fact, your very first example came at the bottom of some pretty damn conclusive facts. It's no exaggeration to say that at least to that point in the thread, my post was the most fact filled of the lot.
Since you love reading my posts, maybe you can track down one where I actually used the term "alt-right" in any way resembling what you you were talking about instead of moving the goal posts. You're a slippery one, I'll give you that.
Shall we continue the tit for tat?
Here's another example of you using a label (as you're saying you hate labels — how ironic is that?) and going on about what a disadvantage white males are at in a academic settings:
"Universities and Academia are almost entirely "progressive" (I hate these labels but don't know how else to phrase it). Being white or any other member of the "dominant class" (such as male) is hugely disadvantaged in universities."
Gee, sure looks like your entire argument is propped up on the label "progressive."
You're a practiced debater I see. It's not just the array of underhanded tactics either — I can't help but notice that you are not responding to anything about yourself from my own responses to keep the focus squarely on your dubious attacks on my character.
Of course it's all complete BS and you're not persuading anyone whose opinion carries any weight with me. Like I said, collect your high fives and move along with your sanctimonious blathering.
Or hell, don't. At least you're entertaining.
originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: TheLaughingGod
Some would call it karma from expansion and genocides of many peoples in early conquest and domination of society one of the first globalization efforts yet by extreme force and seeing anyone else as heathen animals not human beings.
21st century it's time to grow up from the past get over it and come together as one people of the world instead of all this separatist my group or label is more special than any others nonsense. Doing so means a prosperious future for all of humanity not doing so means more of the same jackass nonsense solving nothing that has taken place for 1000's of years
originally posted by: svetlana84
I don't think it has been mentionend yet: Milo Yiannopolous is a UK citizen, with a greek father and a jewish mother. He is gay and makes no secret about that he dates only black lovers.
Another former Breitbart editor would be Ben Shapiro, who is jewish with an armenian background.
Not your typical "white supremacist".
Oh, and the whole "Putin is behind it" thing - just ridicoulus. No evidence about it.
And quite a strong point, coming from someone who is paid millions by Saudi and Qatari sources.
Besides all of this: we see identity politics from the black community, feminists, SJWs, immigrants, muslims...
But white male americans, the one who built this country, are not allowed to make identity politics?
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler
In 2013, among all non-citizens in prison, the total number of homicide arrests (not homicides, not convictions) over a 51 year period for all non-citizens (a group 2.5x as large as illegal immigrants alone) was 25,064 which worked out to be a bit less than 1% of all arrests of these people in prison.
Of course, those arrests are only for those that were in prison at the time of the study, the numbers are extrapolated from a sample of 1,000 prisoners, only drawn from federal prison records, etc — not conducive to drawing any sort of realistic conclusions either way.
What's a more realistic number? Good luck finding one because there's no standard for reporting crimes across jurisdictions let alone arrests and convictions.
The left is more concerned about the color of someone's ass than they are:
The national debt
middle class taxes
social security running out
depleted military force
My problem is that you use the term alt right as an addition to this, implying that being alt right alone makes the source less credible
I didn't criticize you for using labels. I try to not use them when possible, but as with everyone, it is inevitable that I will use them. The difference is I don't use these labels as an implication that a group is racist or always wrong. To prove this, many people politicians included would self proclaim to be liberal. It is not used as an insult like white nationalist. Ask Hillary if she is a liberal, she would say yes. Ask Trump if he is a white nationalist, Betting he says no.
In no means do I think you are a bad person. I am enjoying the discussion and look forward to further ones.
originally posted by: NthOther
Yay! A new label for you guys to box people into and deprive them of their individuality!
I assume now it will be "alt-right this" and "alt-right that", ad nauseam. You're going to beat everyone over the head with your new pet label until you drive it into the obscurity of another overused hate-phrase.
Let me guess. My "alt-right attitude" is showing, right?
Let the hate flow through you.