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Did Chinese Civilization Come From Ancient Egypt?

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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: tikbalang



Northern Africans is a mix of Semitic and sub-saharan Africans, Sumerians ( known as black-head ) were likely from India.


Perhpaps now, but DNA of Queen Tiye etc tells us the Egyptians originated from the Great Lakes Area with influx of other cultures occurring soon after Rameses III (last New Kingdom Pharaoh) when the might of the Egyptian empire fell.




posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 12:59 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
I kinda figured that the Chinese were the first civilisation
No real reason for that other than population size

Maybe they came out of the dessert, explains the epicanthic fold

Well the epicanthic fold may have to do with the windy steppes, environment always plays apart of how we develop, it cause some folks who are the most distantly related to look similar, and folks who may look dramatically different may in fact be closer on a genetic level.
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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 02:10 AM
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originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: nOraKat
Tutankhamun's mask looks sort of Asian.

Well many Africans look sort of Asian or is it the other way around??


I don't think they do.

Chinese belong to the same origins as american Indians, Eskimos, Mongolia, Japan etc etc - yellow or medium toned skin , very straight coarse black hair, slanted eyes, the same gait,

Egyptians belong to Mediterranean or Middle East ,equatorial regions ( the horizontal centre of Earth) Spain, Portugal,India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Israel, Persia, Iran, indigenous tribes of Peru, central america etc etc. Dark or olive skinned , black hair

There are only four original tribes. Whites, the above mentioned two and African - fuller lips, curly black hair, dark skin

Caused by the continental drift. Look at how the continents would piece back together . You will see how the people look similar

The rest are a mix up of neighbouring regions after the drift,

Russians are a mix of white and Mongolians, white skinned, slanted eyes - cold regions

This of course dismisses that silly Adam and Eve story.


Might have muddled up some of that. Some you say?!
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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 02:47 AM
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originally posted by: Spider879
He also cited several ancient Chinese classics, at one point quoting historian Sima Qian’s description of the topography of the Xia empire — traditionally regarded as China’s founding dynasty, dating from 2070 to 1600 B.C. “Northwards the stream is divided and becomes the nine rivers,” wrote Sima Qian in his first century historiography, the Records of the Grand Historian. “Reunited, it forms the opposing river and flows into the sea.” In other words, “the stream” in question wasn’t China’s famed Yellow River, which flows from west to east. “There is only one major river in the world which flows northwards. Which one is it?” the professor asked. “The Nile,” someone replied. Sun then showed a map of the famed Egyptian river and its delta — with nine of its distributaries flowing into the Mediterranean.

The catch is that nothing in the shape of the Nile matches the nine rivers "reuniting to form the opposing river which flows into the sea". I don't think he would find that anywhere else in the world either. Rivers don't work like that.

Other rivers in the world flow north. The Rhine has a delta. More to the point, my atlas shows me the Lena, at the eastern end of Siberia, just north of China, and with a delta into the Arctic. They must have migrated from there (across the plateau and over the Gobi desert).

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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 02:53 AM
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Other rivers in the world flow north.

Indeed. Major ones.
The Ob is a good example. Or doesn't 2,300 miles count as major?



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 03:07 AM
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Indeed. Let's see... skirting the south of the Altai range and the Gobi... perhaps a slightly easier route of migration.




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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 04:28 AM
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originally posted by: violet

originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: nOraKat
Tutankhamun's mask looks sort of Asian.

Well many Africans look sort of Asian or is it the other way around??


I don't think they do.

Chinese belong to the same origins as american Indians, Eskimos, Mongolia, Japan etc etc - yellow or medium toned skin , very straight coarse black hair, slanted eyes, the same gait,

Egyptians belong to Mediterranean or Middle East ,equatorial regions ( the horizontal centre of Earth) Spain, Portugal,India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Israel, Persia, Iran, indigenous tribes of Peru, central america etc etc. Dark or olive skinned , black hair

There are only four original tribes. Whites, the above mentioned two and African - fuller lips, curly black hair, dark skin

Caused by the continental drift. Look at how the continents would piece back together . You will see how the people look similar

The rest are a mix up of neighbouring regions after the drift,

Russians are a mix of white and Mongolians, white skinned, slanted eyes - cold regions

This of course dismisses that silly Adam and Eve story.


Might have muddled up some of that. Some you say?!

Except there were no humans around during the continental drift , although there would be land bridges in some cases now disappeared, and there is no neat separation of phenotype of any continent or region as people moved around a lot, and phenotype can and do change over time depending on new environment.

This Asia Pacific ruler is closer genetically to

This Asia Pacific ruler and both are more distant to this

This late African ruler in terms of relatedness.


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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 04:39 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DISRAELI




Other rivers in the world flow north.

Indeed. Major ones.
The Ob is a good example. Or doesn't 2,300 miles count as major?

Good points Phage and Disraeli some one should have shown the good professor a map of rivers and within the general area of China non the less.
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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 04:44 AM
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Wouldn't it be. Did ancient Egypt come from the Chinese civilization?...



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 05:07 AM
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originally posted by: KonquestAbySS
Wouldn't it be. Did ancient Egypt come from the Chinese civilization?...

Well except that what is generally regarded as the founding of the earliest state before "China" became China is about 1700 B.C , while the founding of an Egyptian like state before there was an Egypt was about 3500 B.C although some said much earlier.
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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 05:14 AM
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Said. Does that make it necessarily true? Who knows.



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 05:25 AM
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originally posted by: KonquestAbySS
a reply to: Spider879

Said. Does that make it necessarily true? Who knows.


Well we have to go by the evidence at hand, which could all change with the next shovel full of dirt or an inscription etched somewhere, we can never grow too comfy with what we know, until then the prevailing evidence is what it is.



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 05:27 AM
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So we come to the conclusion. It is, what it is. (revolving).



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 05:31 AM
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originally posted by: KonquestAbySS
a reply to: Spider879

So we come to the conclusion. It is, what it is. (revolving).

Yup for the time being.



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 06:04 AM
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No. There are 7 races of mankind and they were created at or about the same time.



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 06:19 AM
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The chronology work done by Chinese archaeologists has them developing concurrently with the rest of the world, no evidence of mass movements of people from the Med. The Chinese were already well on their way to civilisation at a pretty early date.



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 07:17 AM
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originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: makemap

DNA evidence carried out in 2010 shows a connection between the Sumerians and India..

Science

Odd, considering no DNA testing of any ancient Sumer remains has been reported on yet to my knowledge.
There has in fact only been one set of remains found that might be amenable to DNA analysis, and those remains were "rediscovered" in 2014, four years after the date you claim, and not reported on yet (again, to my knowledge.)

Harte



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: tikbalang

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Spider879

Something happened in ancient Mesopotamia that brought about human intelligence.

Nonsense. Modern humans (complete with modern intelligence) have been around for hundreds of thousands of years.


First references to a society is no more than 10kya, first cultural norms about the same time. Then enforced cultural laws,
Before that it was a hunter, gatherer nomadic lifestyle.. Latest reference Native Indians..

Hunter-Gatherers and Nomads are also societies, also cultures.

Harte



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 07:48 AM
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“Northwards the stream is divided and becomes the nine rivers,” wrote Sima Qian in his first century historiography, the Records of the Grand Historian. “Reunited, it forms the opposing river and flows into the sea.”



This quote does not state that the River is flowing North. It could be flowing in any compass direction, it is divided to become nine somewhere to the North then reunited it forms the opposing river and flows into the Sea.



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 07:50 AM
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originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Spider879

Northern Africans is a mix of Semitic and sub-saharan Africans, Sumerians ( known as black-head ) were likely from India.

Its odd then that their genetics have nothing to do with India, especially surprising as the oldest city in Sumer, Eridu was founded ca. 5400 BCE, about 2000 years before civilisation arrived in India



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