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Racialism and the peurilty of BLM-UK

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posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 08:41 AM
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I knew it was only a matter of time before the BLM enigma arrived in the UK. So after chaining themselves and blocking traffic on the motorway heading to Heathrow Airport, they were quite rightly charged with obstruction. To make matters even worse, they are now demanding the charges be dropped as a recent march by Britain First, a far-right populist group who are just as equally revolting, was allowed to go ahead. The fact that Britain First followed the correct procedure in notifying the police ahead of the march had absolutely no bearing on BLM-UK's rather childish argument.

This whole BLM-UK issue reminded of Brendan O'Neill's thoughts which I read several weeks ago. I am actually a big fan of Brendan. The Guardian described him as "A sub-Danny Dyer obnoxious intellectual wind-up merchant." which Brendan proudly displays at the top of his website. While Milo has been causing contention across American campuses, Brendan was also causing quite a stir in Australia last week in relation to a live TV Q&A session on free-speech, creeping censorship and the forthcoming plebiscite on gay marriage. Link if anyone is interested.

OK, over to Brendan.


The new racialism, this danse macabre between white self-loathing and black self-pity, is best embodied in Black Lives Matter. Starting life in the US as a protest movement against police shootings of black citizens, BLM has now come to Britain, where its backward views have become clearer. It announced its arrival by blocking the motorway to Heathrow.

It is not remotely a grassroots campaign — its protests attract tiny numbers of people — but rather is an offshoot of the middle-class politics of the Safe Space and offence-taking that has taken hold on campuses in recent years. Its key UK spokespeople are a postgraduate geography student and a ‘black, British, queer, non-binary Muslim’ who goes by the pronoun ‘they’.

These people are about as representative of the black British experience as Princess Anne is of the white British experience. Their claim to speak on behalf of all British black people by virtue of the fact that they have the same colour skin speaks volumes about the innate racialism of the politics of identity and its active suppression of difficult, divisive questions of class and experience.


Brendan describes how the most notable thing about BLM, particularly in its UK form is that it detracts from historical radical anti-racist politics in two ways.

1. it promotes a view of black people as vulnerable and requiring, in essence, social therapy

2. it creates, and often celebrates racial division rather than seeking to overcome it.


BLM-UK, taking its cue from the raised-hands politics of victimhood pursued by BLM US, exaggerates the plight of blacks in Britain. It describes their lives as being in ‘crisis’, which the average black person is unlikely to recognise. And it promotes itself as a kind of therapeutic balm to the black masses’ alleged mental turmoil.

‘A lot of people have lost their voice, they feel powerless’, said one of BLM-UK’s founders. ‘We want to give them their voice back.’ Another founder says BLM showed him ‘that my life mattered’. Where earlier anti-racist movements emphasised the capacity of black people — to run their own lives, to do politics, to live as autonomously as whites — middle-class BLM leaders talk up their powerlessness, their feeling of vulnerability, and their psychological need for a movement that can speak for them and prove to them that they’re valuable. This is therapy, not politics; and it’s highly elitist.


Brendan goes on to talk about this new highly radicalised mindset ie that we engage with people according to skin colour and act accordingly. This new 'stay-in-your-lane' radical politics infers we can never understand or even fight along side people of different colours. Rather than facilitate the humanist ideal of working out what we share in common we have the embodiment of destructive identity politics which elevates group loyalty over universalism.


The return of the racial imagination ultimately speaks to the withering of the radical social imagination. As radicals, leftists and liberals have turned away from the politics of real, meaningful social change in favour of the politics of identity, in favour of managing society and its inhabitants rather than transforming society, so group thinking has returned and divisions have intensified.

We are no longer individuals with common interests we might fight for together; rather, we’re unbridgeable racial creatures who must always acknowledge the ‘gulfs’ that divide us. If we’re black we must agree that we’ve been damaged by history, and if we’re white we must always check our privilege — that is, self-flagellate for the crimes of history.

The rise of BLM really speaks to how the politics of identity violently forces us all back into the racial boxes that men and women struggled so hard to escape; how it has replaced the old racist idea that biology determines our fate with the new, nasty idea that it is history that shapes our characters and outlooks. The old racists made mankind prisoners of biology; the new racialists make us slaves to history..


I am just flabbergasted with all this BLM-UK nonsense. It is a repulsive mindset and has no place in the UK. It is aberrant, harmful self-indulgence. What the hell is happening with some of these middle-class young intellectuals attending university? You might get away with disrupting campuses but start doing that nonsense out in the real world and you will be in for a very hard wake-up call. If you want to show solidarity with your "US brothers", go and peacefully protest outside the US embassy in London. That is what mature, responsible, emotionally and psychologically balanced people do.

THE BRITISH PEOPLE AND ITS GOVERNMENT ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE US. The next time you attempt to block a busy motorway you just might get run over because of your infantile behaviour.

The problem with Black Lives Matter




posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 08:45 AM
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a reply to: Morrad

Britain First is the only group in your country standing up for your country. With your freedom of speech going away, the police state rising and your police protecting Islamic extremists, I think you should reassess who the bad guys really are. At least you can see the BLM for the cancer it is. I'm sorry to say, it will only get worse. BLM is a racist hate group, nothing more.
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posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 08:49 AM
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, this danse macabre between white self-loathing and black self-pity,


I've never seen it described better.
How does blocking traffic raise awareness? I promise, if you make me miss my flight, sympathy is not going to be what I feel for you.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: Morrad

Pardon me for my ignorance, but after reading this I feel the need to ask. Is racism as bad over there as it is here?? Is there even a reason for BLM to be over there?? Though I don't agree with a lot of their strategies, I can at least understand why it's here in america, but in Britain??



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: Necrobile
a reply to: Morrad

Pardon me for my ignorance, but after reading this I feel the need to ask. Is racism as bad over there as it is here?? Is there even a reason for BLM to be over there?? Though I don't agree with a lot of their strategies, I can at least understand why it's here in america, but in Britain??


Racism is not bad here or there, from the White side that is. They are make believing racism which does not exist. They feel they should be allowed to break the laws and not have to answer for their crimes. Enforce the law and then you are a racist.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
a reply to: Morrad

Britain First is the only group in your country standing up for your country. With your freedom of speech going away, the police state rising and your police protecting Islamic extremists, I think you should reassess who the bad guys really are. At least you can see the BLM for the cancer it is. I'm sorry to say, it will only get worse. BLM is a racist hate group, nothing more.


Britain First is a group totally based on hatred of anything that is non British (but they really mean English) non white (even if born in Britain) and non Christian even though to class them as a Christian group would be absolute bull. Where on earth you are getting that nonsense from apart from rabid right wing web sites is beyond me but shows a staggering ignorance of the world outside of America. If you are going to comment, research first. If I had any respect for your posts (I didn't) I have less now.
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posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Necrobile
a reply to: Morrad

Pardon me for my ignorance, but after reading this I feel the need to ask. Is racism as bad over there as it is here?? Is there even a reason for BLM to be over there?? Though I don't agree with a lot of their strategies, I can at least understand why it's here in america, but in Britain??


The metropolitan police (the police force which is responsible for the greater area of London) was described as institutionally racist some years back due to their actions over several serious crimes culminating in the investigation of a young black man named Stephen Lawrence. Some would argue the situation has improved a lot, certainly you are 99% less likely to get fatally shot by police without due cause and yes BLM UK is probably more a group looking for a cause.

To say that there is not an overall racist problem though would be ignoring issues currently affecting other groups - Eastern European people who have been settled here for years, maybe a generation or two or being affected by a wave of knuckle dragging idiots who believe they have no right to live here - to the point where there have been more than one murder for no other reason than the language the person spoke..... and yet an ATS member thinks that Britain First is a legitimate worthwhile group.

www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: Morrad

I read that they wanted to mourn those who have died in police custody. This could have been done in a peaceful and dignified candle vigil at somewhere like Hyde Park. It would have promoted a more positive media image for them.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: uncommitted

Ok, so correct me if I'm wrong, but from what you're saying it sounds like actual racism may not be as bad as it is here, but over there people pretty much hate others for similar stupid reasons, such as not being as british as the next person?? If that's the case, then wow, I'm not really sure which one is worse.

Leave it to humans to keep finding stupid reasons to hate each other. : /
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posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: Necrobile
a reply to: Morrad

Pardon me for my ignorance, but after reading this I feel the need to ask. Is racism as bad over there as it is here?? Is there even a reason for BLM to be over there?? Though I don't agree with a lot of their strategies, I can at least understand why it's here in america, but in Britain??


Is racism over here really as bad as TPTB want us all to believe it is?

We in the US get sold a bill of goods, but when was the last time out side of certain areas of town you were afriad to interact with other people no matter what they looked like?

For me, whether or not I take a cautious approach to interacting with anyone has more to do with the area I'm in than what they look in terms of ethnicity, although there are appearancebehavior flags that can be set off for me in even good areas, but even those are not race specific.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 02:06 PM
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Maybe not shootings... But...
You should all look into the police custody deaths of young black males in the UK.


This is legitimate group. In my opinion.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408

Deaths in custody in the UK are something of an issue, though not a racial issue. Personally I'm much more concerned about how poor our police seem to be at handling those with behavioral issues, mental disorders and physical disabilities.

As for BLM in the UK it is an absolute joke. You have hundreds of black youths chanting 'hands-up, don't shoot' in Hyde park. Other than Duggan (a known scumbag in possession of a live firearm) how many black people have been shot down by police on the streets of the UK? Bugger all.



a ‘black, British, queer, non-binary Muslim’ who goes by the pronoun ‘they’.


A more perfect encapsulation of the 'special snowflake' problem is unlikely to exist. They have gone so stupidly far in their quest to be 'special' and 'different' that it has all become a farce. I'm sure when I go back to work on Monday someone will try to teach us some newly extended acronym for the 'alternative community' as some subculture has decided they must have their own label...



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 08:00 AM
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Official statistics from INQUEST

Overall:



Black and minority ethnic communities (BAME):



Interestingly, INQUEST believe that institutional racism is a contributing factor although I am not sure how they came to that conclusion with such small numbers. The stats are going to be disproportionate in any case and unlawful killings are always controversial.




Statistics



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: TheBulk

Britain First only stand up for their own racist interests. The idea of 'British people' being white Christians is embarrassing and not something I want my country to be associated with.



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: Morrad

I've heard the purpose of BLM is to give an excuse for more central government control of police. I can't find the link but it's there in a Soros communication.



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 12:21 PM
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Isn't it odd that around the same time they were announced to go have a presence in the U.k around the same time that homo sexual reps of BLM tried banishing one of the gay commuted favorite fetishes from the Village people song in Canada which aren't racially divided as the states?

Nothing like a bunch of pawn goig toe to toe with the knights thinking they are doing the right thing, but causing # so some rich people can instigate division and pitful bias, amongst the communities to bring about martial law and resources to there finger tips.

Pawns can never be kings.



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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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Why are you calling these people intellectuals? They are among the dumbest people I've ever come across.

All they do is repeat tired mantras they've been indoctrinated with, they're 90% buzzwords. They've bought a package they were sold that they didn't question in the least and that's the basis for their whole cause.

They were too lazy to be free thinkers so they bought into a ready made package of tenuous lies and histrionics.

This package of narcissism, self-righteousness and entitlement was probably tailored specifically by social engineers and then promoted by the bought and paid for media and the most prestigious of US universities. These people are useful idiots and instead of being encouraged by the media they should be publicly whipped or put in stocks for buying the propaganda and aiding the cause of our enemies. They need to have rotten tomatoes thrown into their faces to show them that this type of shameless self-promotion won't be tolerated.

But instead the media is encouraging this borderline psychotic mentality. Which says a lot.
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posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: twfau

Is this how long we've come? The idea of Britain being white is embarrassing?

So even the thought of Britain remaining or even being thought of as white is now taboo.

Do you not see how you have been brainwashed? Do you not see all the double standards in this liberal narrative you've been indoctrinated with?

You have no issue at all with the forced assimilation of ALL white people? As that is currently the path we are on.

They sure did a good job on you. I'm glad there are people like Britain First that care about the sovereignty and the continued existence of white people. I'm glad there are people standing up to the cowardly brainwashed multitude. You would never support such policies if this wasn't about white people. Liberals have been so brainwashed that at this point they don't even have a problem with the forced genocide of whites, some of them have even been so brainwashed that they think that this is a necessity to pay for historic crimes, or that somehow it is for the greater good.

You disgust me!



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 05:06 PM
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Thank-you. I'm not ashamed or embarrassed of being white, but neither am I proud, it is merely the colour of my skin and has no bearing on anything, if that is being brainwashed then I'm perfectly happy with that.

It is embarrassing because England was conquered a millenia ago to worship Christianity and has committed many atrocities in the name of the religion since. How can a country that has been dominated by a church so much in its history claim to have had sovereignty?

Whilst a significant proportion of the population no longer consider themselves religious at all there is still a merry band of faux-nationalists claiming that England should be classed as a christian country. I wouldn't have a problem with this except many people are using this as a reason to promote hate and division. In my obviously brains-washed mind it is hate and incitement of division that should be challenged if there is any chance of maintaining a peaceful society (and that includes people of any walk of life not just Britain First).



posted on Sep, 3 2016 @ 06:10 PM
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You're making this about Christianity, I was speaking specifically about race.

You want to talk about division but you're seemingly oblivious to the actual agenda behind the mass immigration to Europe. The sole purpose is divide and conquer and Balkanisation through multiculturalism. You think a heterogeneous society is easier to mobilise than a homogeneous one?

The whole idea behind multiculturalism is race-mixing. This is the stated actual goal of the elite, to remove us from our roots. You think a mixed race person have the same loyalty or even national identity as someone that comes from a long line of white British people? You think the ISIS supporting Muslims think of themselves as British? Their goal is conquest through birth rates and they're honest about that too.

You would have to be quite insane to believe that nothing suspect is going on when our leaders let Saudi Arabia sponsor and pay for Mosques all over our countries.

You see this lovey dovey faux liberal narrative of different cultures all getting along together, "vibrancy", "diversity", "inclusiveness", I see running street battles and a burgeoning police state built as a response to Muslim aggression. If they're attacking ambulance and police and creating enclaves with their own laws right now when they're under 10% of the population what do you think they'll be doing when they're 20 or 30% of the population?

Naive, foolish and dangerous in the extreme. Our ancestors would spit us in the face. We fought for our sovereignty for thousands of years and now we hand over the keys to our kingdoms to the worst historical enemy of the West.

Disgusting.



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