Donald Trump on the Five Goals America Shares with Mexico

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

They thought about sending my husband for business into Mexico ... because his business is in pharma, he would have likely needed a private security detail to protect him from being kidnapped by the cartels.

Yeah, great place, Mexico.

Yet it is a hotspot for vacations and ex-pat relocation.

Hmm...

a reply to: ipsedixit

However he may elaborate details in the future that are more in line with his consistently stated intention to make it very difficult for corporations to move jobs out of the US.

Right, Trump speaks and the Corp. Oligarchy listens.

a reply to: ipsedixit


Trump didn't even need to go to Mexico. Looks like a carpet bagger. LOL

No seriously.....there are a good number of domestic issues that he could have rode in for the big when (Freud). Like are middle class americans, folks that still buy their insurance at work and now pay 3 times what they did before AHCA, ever going to get that extension out of their rectal area. Well probably not but it would look a lot better if he would be doing a sit down with the larger primary health care providers in the US and not a propped up tin horn down in Mexico.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

So you honestly think that we could financially take on another 130 million people and it'd be hunky dory? Do you understand why we have an immigration process? Do you understand that undocumented aliens carry dieseases that we don't get in the US?

Diseases?

That's the best you have?

a reply to: Logarock

Having a stable & prosperous neighbor is good policy.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

So you honestly think that we could financially take on another 130 million people and it'd be hunky dory? Do you understand why we have an immigration process? Do you understand that undocumented aliens carry dieseases that we don't get in the US?

Diseases?

That's the best you have?

Yea the scabby sort.

Oh this is part of the deal making strategy..

He goes hard right and then lets everyone cry about it then reaches out to Mexico and works a more middle of the road deal that appeals to the Mexican President getting support from a strong leader in the Latino community while still maintaining a strong stance on the border.

a reply to: introvert

Yes namely tuberculosis. I worked a project last week where over 30% of the Mexicans we tested had TB. That is staggeringly high, not to mention dangerous for people with compromised immune systems. We had to report all of them to the health department so that solves that I guess.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Logarock

Having a stable & prosperous neighbor is good policy.

Yea thats why we have been dumping money into everybody from american black communities and farmers to the PLO for 50 years now.

a reply to: ipsedixit

To address #3 - legalize drugs (but increase responsibility for those under the influence), done.

#4) not by force of law - create the market conditions to increase pay and keep wealth "in the hemisphere" (or quadrisphere at least)

Those 2 will negate most of #1 & #2, while enabling #5 to happen.

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

So you honestly think that we could financially take on another 130 million people and it'd be hunky dory? Do you understand why we have an immigration process? Do you understand that undocumented aliens carry dieseases that we don't get in the US?

Diseases?

That's the best you have?

Yea the scabby sort.

Well, we can't have that, can we?

a reply to: ipsedixit

None of those things matter. Right now he's crap as far as I'm concerned.

Back during the primaries, he said he would have a deportation force. This was one of the critical campaign promises he made, that made him appeal to the vast majority of conservatives who are enraged at the current state of our country and economy.

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"You're going to have a deportation force, and you're going to do it humanely and you're going to bring the country — and, frankly, the people, because you have some excellent, wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time," the real-estate mogul replied.

Just recently his campaign manager said he no longer favours a deportation force.

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Kellyanne Conway, Mr. Trump’s campaign manager, went even further than Mr. Pence, suggesting that Mr. Trump no longer favored the forced removal of illegal immigrants. “He is not talking about a deportation force, but he is talking about being fair and humane,” Ms. Conway said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

This means that there will be no deportations. The illegals in our country aren't going to willingly turn themselves in to be deported, just because Trump asks them nicely to do so. Without a deportation force, there will be no deportations. It will be the status quo - the same as it has been for the past several decades. Things will continue to get worse year after year, and Trump will be Obama 2.0 and nothing significant will change.

Apparently this is okay with Trump supporters, because he doesn't seem to have lost much of his base. It's amazing to me, that politicians can lie like this and get away with it. In fact, I think Trump has set a new world record for breaking a campaign promise. Even Obama waited to get in office before throwing "hope and change" in our faces and laughing at us like the fools we are. Trump can't even do that. He's not in office yet, and throwing his promises back at us like it's not even an issue.

I was one of those who brought up his past with the Clintons during the primaries. Both here and elsewhere. I was told I was full of it. The fact is, he's a RINO. A cold-blooded liberal through and through, masquerading as a conservative. This was how they stacked the election in their favor - they need to make sure all of Obama's socialist policies remain in effect long after he leaves office. How else could they bring our nation to it's knees? It's all part of their plan.

The only candidate that interested me, was Carson. He seemed to be the most honest of the bunch. Unfortunately no one wanted an honest president, they wanted an aggressive president. Well now we will get an aggressive president, one that's aggressively liberal. You asked for it, you got it. Just like with Obama, you were promised hope and change, and you got it. We are now fundamentally changed and hoping for something different.

They love playing with your words. In the future you should stop asking for stupid things.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

Yes namely tuberculosis. I worked a project last week where over 30% of the Mexicans we tested had TB. That is staggeringly high, not to mention dangerous for people with compromised immune systems. We had to report all of them to the health department so that solves that I guess.

Well, let's combine economic forces, legalize drugs, stop spending money on imprisoning people and get those dangerous people some Obamacare?

Problem solved...

originally posted by: ketsuko


Yeah, great place, Mexico.

I kind of like the Pacific coast. Never had any trouble.

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debes afuera mas!!!

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: avgguy

Agreed. Mexico has some significant nation development before we could even consider such a thing as true open borders. We would be much closer to that with Canada who is a much closer match for us economically.

Hay watching Mexican TV is eye opening. Their economy is already way ahead of what most american think about it. We get Mex TV here because there is a market, its digital and very educational. They have money. They have an economy.

a reply to: introvert

Lol, really don't think you get it.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

Yes namely tuberculosis. I worked a project last week where over 30% of the Mexicans we tested had TB. That is staggeringly high, not to mention dangerous for people with compromised immune systems. We had to report all of them to the health department so that solves that I guess.

Well, let's combine economic forces, legalize drugs, stop spending money on imprisoning people and get those dangerous people some Obamacare?

Problem solved...

Well we need to do something about how the SW US is really a Welfare zone at US expense.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

Lol, really don't think you get it.

I was trying to be facetious, but ya...I get it.

Problem is, I don't "get it" the same as you do.

I don't want to build a wall of economic or humanitarian regression. I want to tear them down.

originally posted by: introvert
(get it over with...make Mexico part of the US)

Our quality of life would have to drop dramatically for that to happen.
That's just the economic differences and not addressing the cultural and judicial differences.

What should we do about Mexico's laws and culture that says it's acceptable to have intercourse with a 12 year old? Should we adopt that stance or should they adopt ours? Remember it's not just a judicial difference it's a cultural difference.

A union with Mexico would be a horrible idea.
Working together with Mexico and staying sovereign is a great idea!

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

Yes namely tuberculosis. I worked a project last week where over 30% of the Mexicans we tested had TB. That is staggeringly high, not to mention dangerous for people with compromised immune systems. We had to report all of them to the health department so that solves that I guess.

Well, let's combine economic forces, legalize drugs, stop spending money on imprisoning people and get those dangerous people some Obamacare?

Problem solved...

Well we need to do something about how the SW US is really a Welfare zone at US expense.

Before we do that, we have to learn what the cause is.