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originally posted by: cooperton
How about the racist, sexist, phobia soup we've all been drowning in because of him? And I'm not just talking about Jesus ...
Have you read the Bible? Jesus preached unconditional loving kindness, selflessness, humility, patience, etc.
How about the countless wars declared in his name? ... I'm talking about all organised religion. Exclusive groups created to manage control.
Research the "Synagogue of Satan". These hypocritical monsters have perpetuated wars in the name of Christ. Obviously they are not actually Christians because Jesus taught to turn the other cheek to violence. Anyone perpetuating violence is not a true Christian.
originally posted by: superluminal11
originally posted by: cooperton
How about the racist, sexist, phobia soup we've all been drowning in because of him? And I'm not just talking about Jesus ...
Have you read the Bible? Jesus preached unconditional loving kindness, selflessness, humility, patience, etc.
How about the countless wars declared in his name? ... I'm talking about all organised religion. Exclusive groups created to manage control.
Research the "Synagogue of Satan". These hypocritical monsters have perpetuated wars in the name of Christ. Obviously they are not actually Christians because Jesus taught to turn the other cheek to violence. Anyone perpetuating violence is not a true Christian.
Jew Christian Muslim Zevites and Frankists =Synagogue of Satan-Counterfeits basically --very hard to distinguish without divine help of the Holy Spirit
originally posted by: zosimov
What a giant waste of time! Has anyone learned anything from this thread? Altered their own opinion in the very slightest? What's the point of coming on and offering your one sided entrenched opinion if no one is going to bother to listen?
I'm definitely done with pointless threads of this nature. Have fun though.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: BlackProject
God revealed Himself in His word. Jesus was the incarnation of God. Neither God nor Jesus (the God-man) taught religion. They revealed the path to a personal relationship with God.
Religion is what happens when man gets his greasy finger on God's word. Wars, murder, chaos...that is all man, not God. We are given a collective freedom, and we choose to collectively oppress each other. Again, not God's fault.
originally posted by: BlackProject
a reply to: Taxiarch
This is not about calling religious people nuts, this is about pointing out the very fact that those that follow religion are pawns. Believe it or not.
The overseeing eye on our lives is designed to keep people in check.
‘Abrahamic faiths’ is a distinctly Islamic term that subverts historic Judaism and Christianity, reframes them within an Islamic worldview, asserts Islamic superiority, and thus is the very opposite of its alleged intended usage. ‘Abrahamic faiths’ is a loaded term that reinforces the Islamic claim that “Christianity and Judaism are regarded as distorted derivatives of Islam…” and serves the purpose of Islamic da’wa.
The term ‘Abrahamic faiths’ and its cognates is misleading. Reinforcing the term’s misleading nature, Aaron Hughes, in the conclusion of his book-length evaluation of the term Abrahamic Religions, states that it is more an impediment than an expedient to understanding. I trust that I have made the case that the term is, for all intents and purposes, meaningless.”105 Whilst in broad agreement with Hughes, the term ‘Abrahamic Faiths’ is worse than meaningless, because it is literally full of meaning. The term comes from the Qur’an, is a loaded term that serves the agenda of Islamic da’wa while undermining the authenticity of Judaism and Christianity. Therefore, I conclude that ‘Abrahamic faiths’ is a term that should be abandoned by scholars except in its original qur’anic signification.
The Myth of the Abrahamic Faiths (PDF)
The concept of “Abrahamic faiths” is a fallacy. Its contemporary influence was, tragically, born out of a century of Christian suffering in the Middle East and foisted upon the unsuspecting West. It is reasonable to ask whether this is a theological Trojan horse designed to promote an Islamic worldview of relations between faiths.
The Abrahamic Fallacy (PDF)
This false idea of there being three Abrahamic faiths is the false belief behind the latest apostasy rising in some churches that is called “Chrislam.” Chrislam is nothing more than preaching a false Christ to kowtow to Islam and shows that the people peddling this false religion want to be friends with the world system. So we see in Islam a whole plethora of things that Abraham would never do. Furthermore, the Quran makes many factual errors about Abraham such as the claim that Abraham worshiped at Mecca [Sura 14:37], but he actually worshiped in Hebron [Genesis 13:18].
Abraham did not believe in salvation by works. Abraham rejoiced to see the day of the Lord Jesus Christ, and he saw it and was glad [John 8:56], but Muslims deny Jesus Christ is the Lord and deny that God has a son. Abraham, as Jesus said, was not into killing people who spoke the truth. Muslims who establish sharia believe in killing those who speak the truth of the gospel. Since Muslims do not display the same faith as Abraham, Islam is not an Abrahamic faith.
They claim the god they worship, Allah, is the same as Jehovah. But just like Jesus told the Jews, “If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham,” [John 8:39-40]. Abraham, as I said before, had faith in God and faith in God’s Son, the Lord Jesus. That is the work that made him righteous before God.
The myth of “three Abrahamic faiths”
originally posted by: BlackProject
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: BlackProject
Is that what God does? He helps? Tell me, why didn't God help the innocent people who died for no reason while the others ran free? ..
Okay. Fine. Forget the one offs. How about the countless wars declared in his name? ...
And those "countless" wars fought in the name of God, could you actually name even one (the point being that the motivation for war is usually a power grab or greed and hardly any war has ever been about religion).
Okay. Fine. Let's skip the random, meaningless murder for a second, shall we? ...
How about the racist, sexist, phobia soup we've all been drowning in because of him? And I'm not just talking about Jesus ...
Your'e sure they are God's fault, not the consequence of actions committed of human free will?
Perhaps you could name a conflict where God was an actual combattant? Surely that would really pin the blame on Him.
I'm talking about all organised religion. Exclusive groups created to manage control. A dealer getting people hooked on the drug of hope. His followers, nothing but addicts who want their hit of bullsh*t to keep their dopamine of ignorance. Addicts. Afraid to believe the truth. That there's no order. There's no power. That all religions are just metastasising mind worms, meant to divide us so it's easier to rule us by the charlatans that want to run us. All we are to them are paying fanboys of their poorly-written sci-fi franchise.
People think their worship's some key to happiness. That's just how he owns you. I'd be need to be crazy to believe that distortion of reality. He's not a good enough scapegoat for me......
The world in a nutshell....
I counter claim that it is the ignorant, vilifying, selfish and greedy bigots that are the cause of all humanity's ills, not those attempting to perfect themselves, be peaceful, forgiving, law abiding and improve the lives of others.
I love you religious nuts.
I would have to sit you down for good week to explain the very notion of war and religion as a duo.
Religion is imprinted into law and choices made to dominate the world. It all stems from control and power, those of you who follow religion or find it in anyway helpful show how soft in the mind those that follow it are.
This notion of free will and not Gods doing is absurd. Utterly absurd. It is like putting a child in a room full of sharp objects and saying its the child's fault for hurting itself.
It is a shame that most humans can only open their minds to this point, its saddening for the human race.
originally posted by: chr0naut
Are you suggesting that you don't have free will?
God didn't put us in a room full of sharp objects. In regard to war, they are usually fought with weapons, which we humans have forged. If you want someone to blame for war, you should consider those who have guns, tanks, rockets, bombs and armies.
I'd guess that those equipped for war are those who promote it.
But I suppose some religious nut could come and console you to death.
Yes free will does not exist, I have stated this before and I will state it again. Everything you do in your life is due to impulses you gain throughout your day. If you think this is not the case, then your ability to understand BASIC human psychology and environmental behaviour effecting our ways then I think our conversation should end there.
originally posted by: BlackProject
originally posted by: chr0naut
Are you suggesting that you don't have free will?
God didn't put us in a room full of sharp objects. In regard to war, they are usually fought with weapons, which we humans have forged. If you want someone to blame for war, you should consider those who have guns, tanks, rockets, bombs and armies.
I'd guess that those equipped for war are those who promote it.
But I suppose some religious nut could come and console you to death.
I find it hard to even want to reply to your wall of text. None of it really stands any importance.
Yes free will does not exist, I have stated this before and I will state it again. Everything you do in your life is due to impulses you gain throughout your day. If you think this is not the case, then your ability to understand BASIC human psychology and environmental behaviour effecting our ways then I think our conversation should end there.
You misunderstand me when I mention religion. I said, over and over here that religion is a tool. Does not cause wars but is the reason why wars can easily be implemented. A nation of god fearing people are readily ready to give into their own government telling them they will save them. The weapons you speak of are used by the traitors that instill religion as any kind of peaceful notion.
I think most people these days are way to lost in their own minds. I am pointing out the collections of mind prisons that the world puts everyone under, yet people still determine religion is peaceful and has nothing to do with the many bloody fights and slaughters throughout history.
I am not paid to teach you or stay here and write a very easy to understand history lesson because I prefer to see how people react and respond. So I shall only intervene madness.
Why judge a God that you don't believe in? Or why project the world's bad decisions on Him?
He wants people to grow the # up.
originally posted by: richapau
a reply to: cooperton
Have you watched Christians, en masse they practice none of Jesus's teachings.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor
If you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs. Freedom comes at a price. It means that some people are going to make bad decisions. If God were to jump in at every single bad decision we make, He would literally be the nanny of the universe. God doesn't want cheerleaders. He wants people to grow the # up.