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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Greven
AND all the others you completely missed right?
9 more and you ONLY react the first one...
REPORT BACK AFTER THE other 9 THEN talk.
Try THIS one...www.washingtontimes.com...
“We didn't mention anything about the weather change, but I would have to agree that possibly you can expect it,” she informed IFLScience.
The conditions during this next predicted minimum will still be chilly: “It will be cold, but it will not be this ice age when everything is freezing like in the Hollywood films,” Zharkova chuckled.
She commented on how the changes in the Sun are likely to affect the Earth's environment. “During the minimum, the intensity of solar radiation will be reduced dramatically. So we will have less heat coming into the atmosphere, which will reduce the temperature.”
However, Zharkova ends with a word of warning: not about the cold but about humanity's attitude toward the environment during the minimum. We must not ignore the effects of global warming and assume that it isn't happening. “The Sun buys us time to stop these carbon emissions,” Zharkova says. The next minimum might give the Earth a chance to reduce adverse effects from global warming.
originally posted by: violet
a reply to: Phage
Well then perhaps population control by way of limiting how many children you can have should have been implemented a long time ago. I'll be generous and say each family can have 5 kids! I heard this was coming in our western countries long ago. Never happened.
Not one thing has been done to reduce the pollutants cars put out either. Car pooling? Provide better public transit? N.America has very bad public transit. Also nobody walks. Few bike. Great ideas, those are just two that make sense, but instead they have to do all these other things now to repair the damage.
20 years ago ( at least) they said aerosols were bad, yet they still sell them! I quit using them 15 yrs ago. Why were they not banned?
Amazon forest still being cut down
I guess it was ridiculous of me to think you would have any information ready on hand about what the temperature of Earth was last year when talking about global warming. LOL. I'll expend as much or little effort as I want, thanks for your concern though. I'll worry about how much effort I expend, and you can worry about how much effort you expend. Meanwhile, I have yet to have a discussion about global warming with anyone ATS because your side of the debate cannot tell me what the temperature of Earth is.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: wayforward
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Where can I find numbers on the average temperature of Earth by year? This chart you present suggests the data is available, so I'd like to see the data by year instead of this chart.
Read the article. All of its data is sourced if you'd click on the links in the article. You know, expend some effort?
originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Krazysh0t
As I'd posted previously, the single largest contributing source of AGW gases are the coal fired electric plants.
The only way to get a handle on this will be to sharply accelerate the replacement of coal fired plants with electricity produced at renewable sourced energy plants. A carbon tax on electricity should be imposed such that the cost of electricity is near doubled to reduce usage.
In my area, they're pushing for a per mile vehicle usage tax to reduce gasoline/diesel usage. And there's talk of closing the State parks to remove them as a destination for driving vacations. I'd think we should lobby Congress to close the National Parks to discourage people using them as driving vacation destinations.
My biggest pet peeve is the airlines spewing billions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere. A carbon tax sufficient to triple the cost of air travel should be immediately imposed to drastically reduce the obscene number of daily flights.
Hopefully, when HRC is installed as POTUS, some of these problems can be adequately addressed.
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Yes...there is climate change. Yes...it is natural. No...man made climate change isn't the biggest factor. But...I couldn't agree more that we should address pollution much better than we have. And here is my proposal.
1. No company will be fined and no "carbon tax" or any such thing will be permitted.
2. Companies that lower their pollution level will received additional tax credits. This will be based upon their current level of pollution and their current tax rate. In other words...they will be rewarded, not fined.
3. Individual tax rates and/or property taxes will be reduced for any pollution positive actions such as more efficient air conditioners, etc. For hybrid cars, tax intensives will only be given to those whose electricity is produced by non-polluting methods.
Hows that! Reward those who lower pollution. Works for me. Now...anyone who has a different agenda such as fines, tax increases, control, manipulation, etc...will argue with this idea. You may see a bunch of liberals and those on the left (especially politicians) who hate this idea simply because their goal is control and money...NOT solving problems.