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"Alt-Right": A Movement? An Ideology? An Ethnicity? WHAT is it?

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posted on Sep, 1 2016 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

Everything you said in that thread could be applied to every MSM news station, endless newpapers, and endless others such as Huff&Puffington Post. There would hardly be any "news" outlet left unbanned following your logic therein.




posted on Sep, 1 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
If you buy into any of the LGBT hype you've been conditioned, if you think BLM is a legit movement you've been conditioned, if you think racism is only valid when backed up by institutional power you've been conditioned, if you think the notion of safe spaces, trigger warnings and decrying cultural appropriation is legit you've been conditioned, if you buy into the revisionist history that whites are the sole oppressors in history or the only aggressors you've been conditioned, if you think modern feminism is valid you've been conditioned, if you think minorities are oppressed by a system which institutionally favours them you've been conditioned, if you ignore the blatant racism of minorities against whites but speak of white racism you've been conditioned.



originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
The posters you mention are horrible debaters. It's not hard to refute most everything they say, the only problem is there is no end to these liberal dupes.. and they mostly just ignore the salient parts of any posts.

You're not keeping ATS head above the "murky slime", you turned a site about conspiracy theories that used to be great into one buying into the false left and right paradigm. You turned a site that used to be aware into just another crap-fest celebrating mediocrity. A site filled with useless debate about unimportant crap instead of one that rose above the brainwashing of the masses and rightly pointed its finger at the real ruling class and their motivations.

Yeah, this site used to be filled with analysis of history and the latest events, great researchers and great threads analysing the intent, motivations and make up of the globalist elite. Now aside from a few people here and there it's mostly about exoteric politics.


I love your work in my 'silly' little thread here. Thank you!

edit on 1-9-2016 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 1 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
The alt-right is Alex Jones and his ilk. David Icke, Breitbart, Beck, Limbaugh, the nutters, the WBC, the Agenda-21 nail-biters, the people who think FEMA camps are for rounding us all up and killing us or 're-educating' us. The ones who insist that democratic socialists (and democrats in general) are "Commies!" ---- those people. If the shoe fits, you're in the club.

They get you all riled up over nothing. So - if you are all riled up and think Trump is a presidential gift from God, then -- you are the alt-right.

I keep hoping this place will rise above the fray. See theantediluvian's excellent post above -- it deserves an applause and many more stars for telling it exactly how it is.


If the only sources you feel are reliable are: The Gateway Pundit, The Conservative Treehouse, Weazel Zippers, Breitbart, WND, Infowars/Prison Planet and a host of wordpress blogs with "patriot" in the name, you've probably been mainlining alt-right propaganda for years. Thanks Drudge!


Wow. Just wow! Now even Rush is part of it. You forgot in list Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill OReilly, Anne Coulter, and every other opponent of Hillary.


Following that, I'm mostly clear now it "Alt-Right" really is (which isn't the folks I just now typed):


originally posted by: liveandlearn
I think the alt right are just people who have woken up to what is going on. Who are against the establishment both left and right. Who have had too much shoved down their throats too fast and STILL believe in the constitution. Alt right is beginning to include more independents and some on the left. It is not something you can label and ascribe qualities to. It is an America that is fed up with the status quo.


Oh, hey, BW, you forgot to add your category definition, where my underlying argument herein is that if you can't then it ins't even a real 'thing'. I'll just be holding my breath now, please hurry...


False, Glenn Beck is part of the Cuck movement.



posted on Sep, 1 2016 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: BIGPoJo

You sure you didn't misspell that? I could see an 'o' replace the 'u', or a 'nt' replace the 'ck'. I loathe that guy almost as much as Hitlery.



posted on Sep, 1 2016 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: TheBulk

That is crap.

I couldn't care less about BLM, they are just as bad. Alt-right is the lunatic fringe. BLM is a mob, and so are Trump rally-goers.



Since we're tossing labels around here - I'm beginning to think I'm going to need to sprout wings on my ass to make room for all of the labels folks are trying to stick on me - if the peaceful "Trump rally-goers" are actually just a mob, what label should we put on the not-so-peaceful "protestors" who habitually hang out outside Trump rallies to wreak havoc?

I mean, if we're going to toss labels around, they ought to have one too... it's the inclusive thing to do!



posted on Sep, 1 2016 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Thank you, just doing my part in this information war.

(It's kind of disheartening though, to realise that not only do we have to contend with conditioned people but increasingly we're having to deal with paid shills and even bots.. Not sure if I wanna know where that'll eventually lead us, ugh.. )



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 07:36 AM
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Paranoid History of the GOP: How Conspiracy Theories Poisoned the Republican Party


authored on Sep, 1 2015 by yours truly

Just gonna leave this here.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

"(It's kind of disheartening though, to realise that not only do we have to contend with conditioned people but increasingly we're having to deal with paid shills and even bots.. Not sure if I wanna know where that'll eventually lead us, ugh.. )"


I call it "forensics discernment". You gotta read between the invisible lines to see what is missing or does not fit. I think it will make us smarter in the long run.


edit on 2-9-2016 by MOMof3 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Paranoid History of the GOP: How Conspiracy Theories Poisoned the Republican Party

authored on Sep, 1 2015 by yours truly

Just gonna leave this here.


Does that mean that the GOP is also lumped into this "Alt-Right"???



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 08:36 AM
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The "right" is paranoid, yet the left is CONSTANTLY promoting conspiracy theories involving race and white forces constantly working to undermine everyone who isn't white.

It's a total conspiracy theory based on racial paranoia and the left's entire narrative is based on it!



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: nenothtu

Alt-Right is their own label and let's not pretend that there aren't plenty of pejorative labels for anyone left of right.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
The "right" is paranoid, yet the left is CONSTANTLY promoting conspiracy theories involving race and white forces constantly working to undermine everyone who isn't white.

It's a total conspiracy theory based on racial paranoia and the left's entire narrative is based on it!


Damn well said!

According to them all whites (men) a part of the Patriarchal CONSPIRACY, meaning you're a co-conspirator unless you denounce it and join them in parroting the diatribe, and verbally abusing / physically assaulting other co-conspirators whom wont also denounce & join.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
I'm still scratching my head over this one, especially since I have a feeling that my style of anti-Obama / anti-Hillary / anti-SJW types of arguments this summer would have me landed plump on that who what huh list.

So please, somebody, articulate for me & everyone (via definitions) how do we even classify what this "Alt-Right" thing even is (i.e. a movement, or political party, or ideology, or etc).

I still dont get it, as, if it can't even be classified then how can anybody else?!?

The Alt-Right as democrats, liberals and progressives have labeled them are the fringe of all the bad things they decided to associate with the right...unjustifiably so.

It would be like me defining that Alt-Left as chronic liars, cheats, criminals, selfish, leeches, blood-suckers and anti-Americans.

It would be just as wrong too. While I don't like the left's views, I know they are not all bad people. The left, however, doesn't typically take the same, moderate stance. Just look at Hillary Clinton's words...she has called all Trump supporters "racists". Trump has not called all Clinton supporters anti-American.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: nenothtu

Alt-Right is their own label and let's not pretend that there aren't plenty of pejorative labels for anyone left of right.


True enough, the alt-right coined their own label... but it's odd to me that the left (and neocons - what strange bedfellows, eh?) are the ones running around town sticking the label on whichever bumpers they see fit to stick them to. Perhaps the alt-right should have been more vocal on how they are defined and who gets into the club legitimately to forestall that eventuality. They really should have seen it coming.

Truly, though, the label I was referring to was "mob" in reference to "Trump rally-goers" in the post I was responding to. I'm shocked that you couldn't suss that out on your own. That fault lies with me, I'd imagine. Maybe I should have spelled it out in bigger letters myself.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: DJW001

Everything you said in that thread could be applied to every MSM news station, endless newpapers, and endless others such as Huff&Puffington Post. There would hardly be any "news" outlet left unbanned following your logic therein.


Wrong. All media will present news in a fashion that conveys actual events in a biased light. Infowars actually presents fiction as fact. ATS bans known hoaxers in the UFO forum, and known financial or confidence scams in others. Infowars is no different. Since Alex has his own radio program, his freedom of expression would be in no way infringed.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: nenothtu

There's clearly ugly from both the rally goer and the protester, it seems equally stupid to me to label all protesters as violent ______ (insert FOTM label here). Absolutes are moronic.

I haven't seen the label alt-right misapplied as of yet. Maybe you have.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: nenothtu

ODD?
Why would you think that when the alt-right are conspiracy enthusiasts who research AND CONFIRM a great deal of conspiracies being facts and Hillary is getting effectively countered as a result?



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: nenothtu

There's clearly ugly from both the rally goer and the protester, it seems equally stupid to me to label all protesters as violent ______ (insert FOTM label here). Absolutes are moronic.

I haven't seen the label alt-right misapplied as of yet. Maybe you have.


Well, as usual I suppose "ugly" is in the eye of the beholder, same as "beauty" is. As you observe, absolutes are moronic.

I have seen that label misapplied here in this very thread, IF we are to take the alt-right's definition of themselves as also posted in the thread at face value. Now, the argument could be made that's a mighty big "IF". It could be that even they do not know who or what they are themselves, which logic would then dictate that if they don't even know who they are, how could anyone else? It follows then that if no one else knows who they are, either, then plastering labels all over whatever one despises would become an entirely meaningless exercise.

So, it's a lose either way.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: nenothtu

ODD?
Why would you think that when the alt-right are conspiracy enthusiasts who research AND CONFIRM a great deal of conspiracies being facts and Hillary is getting effectively countered as a result?


Yup, ODD. See above post. If one does not even know who they are, then of course no one else can, either, making the label meaningless. On the other hand, if one DOES know who they are, why would they let their opposition co-opt their own label and plaster it all over everything the opposition despises, regardless of whether the label actually applies, thus allowing them to control and direct the discourse?

ODD.



posted on Sep, 2 2016 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

Did Infowars hire Brian Williams? I can never keep straight all the many places he worked for doing all those mighty deeds.



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