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"Alt-Right": A Movement? An Ideology? An Ethnicity? WHAT is it?

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posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs


Are you flirting with me? It's so sexy when you physically assault me with your drink!


a reply to: Hazardous1408



I hadn't intended for this thread to be a stand up comedy club, but thank you for that LOL!

Laughter is good for your health. You guys should lighten up and try it sometime.

American doctors found that certain brain centers are responsible for the overall physical health and a positive perception of reality. Stimulation of these points cures a lot of diseases. A safe and natural method of stimulation of these zones are laughing and smiling. These partners inhibit the production of stress hormones, like cortisol and adrenaline. Laugh increases the production of neurotransmitters, like serotonin and dopamine, and the "hormone of happiness" - endorphins, which are a vital medicine for people prone to depression and chronic fatigue.
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posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

A description of the alt-right from an article I read a few weeks ago (just after the Milo Yiannopoulos/Leslie Jones Twitter altercation).


the alt-right is the mirror image of political correctness, specifically the victimhood that underpins it. They don’t just want to have a pop at self-styled victims – they want to claim victim status for themselves. Their broadsides against feminists, Black Lives Matter or Islam are underpinned by the idea that straight, white males are an oppressed group – that ‘white culture’ is under attack. They may take up arms against weepy identitarians, but they share the same, deadening sense of victimhood – just with another set of dreamt-up grievances attached.



The PC war has turned into a farce, with self-righteous liberals and right-wing keyboard warriors locked in a deathly embrace. They need each other. They feed off each other. And this is bad news for free speech – and for politics. The crisis of free speech underpins so many of the political problems of today. The pressure to conform, to shut up and shuffle on rather than have out the debates that matter, plagues our politics. First we had PC liberals hectoring us when we didn’t say the right thing. Now we’ve got idiotic right-wingers desperate to say the wrong thing, even if they don’t really mean it. What we’re left with is a politics of bad faith, which has, in turn, rehabilitated some genuinely ugly prejudices.


Beware the phoney defenders of free speech



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: Morrad
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

A description of the alt-right from an article I read a few weeks ago (just after the Milo Yiannopoulos/Leslie Jones Twitter altercation).


the alt-right is the mirror image of political correctness, specifically the victimhood that underpins it. They don’t just want to have a pop at self-styled victims – they want to claim victim status for themselves. Their broadsides against feminists, Black Lives Matter or Islam are underpinned by the idea that straight, white males are an oppressed group – that ‘white culture’ is under attack. They may take up arms against weepy identitarians, but they share the same, deadening sense of victimhood – just with another set of dreamt-up grievances attached.



The PC war has turned into a farce, with self-righteous liberals and right-wing keyboard warriors locked in a deathly embrace. They need each other. They feed off each other. And this is bad news for free speech – and for politics. The crisis of free speech underpins so many of the political problems of today. The pressure to conform, to shut up and shuffle on rather than have out the debates that matter, plagues our politics. First we had PC liberals hectoring us when we didn’t say the right thing. Now we’ve got idiotic right-wingers desperate to say the wrong thing, even if they don’t really mean it. What we’re left with is a politics of bad faith, which has, in turn, rehabilitated some genuinely ugly prejudices.


Beware the phoney defenders of free speech





So..........basically, the alt-right movement is the White Supremacist Trump followers? With "alt-right" being an anti-PC victimology ideology.

All most sounds like a PC label designed to drastically enlarge the pool of people they can label as White Supremacist.



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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It's amazing to me that more people haven't caught on to the fact that anyone who opposes left wing ideology is labeled a:

-racist
-bigot
-Islamophobe
-Homophobe
-sexist

or any other label of the day. This is all they have! How can anyone still buy this crap?



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS


So..........basically, the alt-right movement is the White Supremacist Trump followers? With "alt-right" being an anti-PC victimology ideology.

All most sounds like a PC label designed to drastically enlarge the pool of people they can label as White Supremacist.


Out of curiosity, do you label any white person who stands up for themselves or their rights a "white supremacist"?



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

No, NeoCons were no more "real" that the alt-right is real or Hillary's "vast right-wing" conspiracy is.

If you want to say they are real in the sense that it is a label that is applied to people, then yes, those people are real. If you want to say there are loose characteristics applied to the label itself, that also is true, but whether or not the people labeled actually fit the label, that is another question.



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

See here:
Project for the New American Century
Their manifesto here:
www.informationclearinghouse.info...

A choice oral history here:

A choice visual history here:

That one has interviews with Bill Kristol talking about their whole history and such.



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

It's amazing to me that more people haven't caught on to the fact that anyone who opposes left wing ideology is labeled a:

Then you truly don't understand any of this.

There are lots of people who oppose 'left-wing ideology' who are NOT alt-right trolls.
No, Bulk. it shouldn't "amaze' you. If it actually "amazes" you, then you have been laboring under an entirely false premise of what "alt-right" is.



-racist
-bigot
-Islamophobe
-Homophobe
-sexist

or any other label of the day. This is all they have! How can anyone still buy this crap?


That is all they are! That is what "alt-right" is!!!! How can you not get that? How can anyone STILL not get that???!!!!

The thread is about "what is alt-right": alt-right has been described. Defined. By alt-righters themselves, and other people who pay attention. If you don't get that those qualites ARE THE ALT-RIGHT, then you're either (a) in way over your head, or (b) probably one of them.



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
The alt-right is Alex Jones and his ilk. David Icke, Breitbart, Beck, Limbaugh, the nutters, the WBC, the Agenda-21 nail-biters, the people who think FEMA camps are for rounding us all up and killing us or 're-educating' us. The ones who insist that democratic socialists (and democrats in general) are "Commies!" ---- those people. If the shoe fits, you're in the club.

They get you all riled up over nothing. So - if you are all riled up and think Trump is a presidential gift from God, then -- you are the alt-right.

I keep hoping this place will rise above the fray. See theantediluvian's excellent post above -- it deserves an applause and many more stars for telling it exactly how it is.


If the only sources you feel are reliable are: The Gateway Pundit, The Conservative Treehouse, Weazel Zippers, Breitbart, WND, Infowars/Prison Planet and a host of wordpress blogs with "patriot" in the name, you've probably been mainlining alt-right propaganda for years. Thanks Drudge!


Lol wiki leaks showed you that cnn and other liberal leaning new sites are paid propaganda yet you spew their garbage like its gospel and demean anyone who isnt defined by them. What are you doing on here? With all the crazies? You probably still on the whole 911 is an inside job and the republicans are all evil because it fits your personal beliefs. How would you know their isnt an agenda agaisnt white males? Are you a white male? and if a percentage of white males feel this way who are YOU to tell them its BS maybe you have yet to see what is obvious to so many others.

I'm not trying to completely knock you down just open you up to the idea that many things started as conspriciiy theory then became fact when enough people got tired of ignoring it.



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

What are you talking about? You guys use all the same labels for anybody who is right of you. This is nothing new. You guys literally say the exact same thing about any prominent right-winger.
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posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: digital01anarchy


Lol wiki leaks showed you that cnn and other liberal leaning new sites are paid propaganda yet you spew their garbage like its gospel and demean anyone who isnt defined by them. What are you doing on here? With all the crazies? You probably still on the whole 911 is an inside job and the republicans are all evil because it fits your personal beliefs. How would you know their isnt an agenda agaisnt white males? Are you a white male? and if a percentage of white males feel this way who are YOU to tell them its BS maybe you have yet to see what is obvious to so many others.

I'm not trying to completely knock you down just open you up to the idea that many things started as conspriciiy theory then became fact when enough people got tired of ignoring it.



LOL!! Aw. No, cutie. That's not it at all ---- but you're sort of beginning to cultivate a very basic understanding of what's going on!! Good!!

I'm not trying to completely knock you down, either, dear! I know all about conspiracy theories, and the generations and all that - because I was trained to know it.

I know plenty. Because I'm a grown-up who knows how to investigate things. And I'm the mother of a Millennial white male, and a Millennial white female. So - keep working at it.
But, you're sweet for responding. Were you even alive back during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Do you know what that even is?


Again, focus on growing up. Wander outside of your comfort zone from time to time.
It's healthy to do that.

You'll be okay.
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posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

The alt-right is by definition all of those things you listed.

You might think it's great to be able to count yourself among them, but if you're actually NOT a bigoted misogynist white supremacist semi-illiterate knuckle-dragging foul-mouthed ignoramus (which I don't think you are) (yet) then you don't want to be associated with them either.

Don't get labelled an "alt-right" loon. It's only going to hurt you in the future.

Common sense will be very important. Try to emulate educated adults who are willing to learn big words, read scholarly journals, and talk about actual stuff.


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posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: digital01anarchy

Yeah, the assertion I keep noticing lately is infowars etc anti-PC outlets are pure fiction "tabloids" kind of stuff. Nothing they post has any merits whatsoever kind of reasoning.

The truth is outside NatEnquirer & MTV, the MSM are the biggest tabloidal whores around with their smoke & mirrors, their moral wedge issue diversions, their Official Version conspiracy theories, their celebrity gossip "news", and so on...






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posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

THAT'S why they need to shut these sites DOWN, their information screws up their narrative by exposer that the regular media won't do.....It wasn't on the cell phone so they didn't know about it.

RILING up a "hate speech" campaign just fits the MO.



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs


You might think it's great to be able to count yourself among them, but if you're actually NOT a bigoted misogynist white supremacist semi-illiterate knuckle-dragging foul-mouthed ignoramus (which I don't think you are) (yet) then you don't want to be associated with them either


First of all, this isn't a real thing. It's a boogyman designed to make you dismiss points of view you disagree with without a logical argument. Second, the Democrat party openly supports several racist hate groups, BLM being the most violent and overtly racist. How can anyone take this fear mongering seriously when you guys clearly support racism and racial supremacy?



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:54 PM
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Actually there was a thread not 2 months ago calling for them to be banned from the site. The argument was it was racist that they had videos showing BLM doing 'kill whitey' kind of stuff, and that the people that posted them here were also racists, and the people posting in the threads were racists, etc.
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posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:58 PM
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Yeah, the assertion I keep noticing lately is infowars etc anti-PC outlets are pure fiction "tabloids" kind of stuff. Nothing they post has any merits whatsoever kind of reasoning.

The truth is outside NatEnquirer & MTV, the MSM are the biggest tabloidal whores around with their smoke & mirrors, their moral wedge issue diversions, their Official Version conspiracy theories, their celebrity gossip "news", and so on...


Your so called "anti-PC outlets" have never been accused of being "tabloids." They have been proven to simply tell lies about important events. Incidentally, the publisher of the National Enquirer is a personal friend of Donald Trump; that is why they have taken to featuring lies about the Clintons on their front page.



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

You mean like Brian Williams did for how long?



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 05:59 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: cavtrooper7

Actually there was a thread not 2 months ago calling for them to be banned from the site. The argument was it was racist that they had videos showing BLM doing 'kill whitey' kind of stuff, and that the people that posted them here were also racists, and the people posting in the threads were racists, etc.


Could you provide a link to that thread? Something tells me you are misrepresenting it.



posted on Aug, 31 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

No? Ask Buzzy if infowars breitbart etc are tabloids.

If true, so does the MSM. That's all they do is lie, distort, ommit, rabble rouse, tow the lines, divert, and so on.

I just called NatEnq a tabloid.



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