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Who Should I Vote For....Can ANY Of You Do This?

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posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: eNumbra
Vermin Supreme; he plans to go back in time and kill Hitler shortly after his birth, this is a policy all Anericans can unite behind.


Naaaaaahhhh.....sorry. I have to draw the line at infantcide.

But! If your candidate is willing to instead use the time machine to go back in time, kidnap Hitler right after birth, then bring him forward to raise him to be a nicer person (and of course he'd be MIA now), I could work with that.




posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: yeahright

originally posted by: eriktheawful
A couple of weeks ago, my son's Boy Scout troop held their elections.


Well sure it worked smoothly there because there weren't any chicks involved.

>Ducks and runs


Are you kidding?

If there had been girls there, they'd all of been tongue tied, hehehehehe.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: eNumbra
Vermin Supreme; he plans to go back in time and kill Hitler shortly after his birth, this is a policy all Anericans can unite behind.


Hitler who?

Who is this Hitler that you speak of?



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 12:41 PM
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Coming out of lurking to say this is a great thread so far! I am having a hard time cutting through the noise to figure out who to vote for, or if I should vote at all.

Thank you for the breath of fresh air! I can't wait to read more.

*returns to lurking*



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Beautifully well said! It also reminded me of another reason that I will vote Democratic nationally. I am in agreement on their platform issue of renewable, clean energy. They have a positive message, acknowledging energy security, plus wanting to see the US as a leader in clean energy. From the technology advancements and industry growth I've seen just around where I live, I know what can be accomplished. My energy bills have lowered, which has been money in my pocket to spend elsewhere.

Also, their platform position on clean air and water. Pollution. It is too important to leave it up to corporations to decide what to do about it.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 03:04 PM
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Hillary Clinton for President! Here is why.

The United States government has historically been, the boy's club and women were mostly second class citizens until 1920. In 1922 Rebecca Latimer Felton became the first women to serve on the Senate, if only for a day. Ten years later in Arkansas Hattie Caraway became the first women to win the election to the Senate. However No women served from 1922 to 1931, 1945 to 1947, and 1973 to 1978. That all changed in 1992, the Year of the woman, when five women were elected to the senate.

After graduating from Yale University with a Juris Doctor degree Hillary Clinton spent her post graduate time serving as a staff attorney for a Children's Defense fund and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on children. Fun Fact: She was also a member of the impeachment inquiry staff and her research lead to the resignation of President Richard Nixon. Shortly afterward Hillary became the first woman to be made full partner of Rose Law Firm. Another boy's club.

Then in 2001, Hillary Rodham Clinton joined the Senate and stayed for eight years. That should be a huge indicator to anyone that this woman obtains results. You don't just walk into and stay at an exclusive club with out being someone who can make it happen... If you look through her track record in government you'll see she has help millions of families across the country to have access to better health and better education.

I know she is flawed. Hillary Clinton is probably one of the worst campaigners I have ever seen. But that woman can govern!

I love you,

Harry



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 03:04 PM
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I think I can do it! I might have to do some "comparisons" but I'm not going "bash". I have not read any of the other replies yet.

I am voting for Hillary because she has specific experience needed for the job.

Trump does not.

You could make it this simple. If it were a 'regular job' who would you pick? Who has the specific experience?
It is a "job" anyway and the person to fill it ought to have experience.

Some try to argue that Trump "is a business man". In my opinion he's not a very good business person.

Putting that aside: The man is in real estate. Would you hire him, or someone like him, to run KFC? Or K Mart? I wouldn't. Because he does not have experience in those industries. And the same goes other ways, with anyone. Would you hire Steve Jobs to run KFC? I wouldn't.

Hillary has already spent a lot of time working in government. She is married to a former President. She knows how everything works. The economy did well under Bill Clinton. They both have international contacts, and many domestic contacts in gov so it will be easier to appoint the right people for various cabinet positions.

If you look at this like "filling a job", to me it's clear that Hillary is the best choice because she has experience. As well as established relationships with other world leaders.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 03:05 PM
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Jill Stein, Part One, More Later If I get the Time. Wanted to at least put something out as I promissed.

Ok, where to begin. To start I was a Bernie supporter before switching to Jill Stein. With Bernie I was wowed by his willingness to both call out the corruption in DC, the corporations, and banks, but also steadfast refusal to accept money from large corporate donors. That was not all, but well this isn't about Bernie. As we know, he lost, and Clinton is in his place. So onto Stein.

Jill, like Bernie stands against corruption in Washington, and many of her policies parallel some of his own. She believes so much in her cause, had he been willing to take it, she offered Bernie to take her place as head of the Green Party knowing the support he had. Willing to step aside for the cause.

Now onto some policies. I won't go too in depth as there's quite a bit and much of it is very detailed. So please bare with me and understand that I'm not a professional, and am summarising on quite a bit.

We'll start with the Green in Green party. Environmental and power issues. When I first heard about the green party I rolled my eyes. For one I'm not 100% convinced of man made climate change. I personally think the world goes through cycles and we aren't seeing anything new. But that's ok, I don't have to be to see that many of the Green Parties policies in this matter are good ones. For starters, green energy, or renewable energy. Wars are often fought over resources, and oil is one of the most fought over resources of our time. With green energy we can cut the ties to big oil for good, and in time even end our reliance on nuclear energy. We can stop destroying our beautiful planet with fracking or our oceans with the spilling of oil. Better yet, in transfering from the old systems of energy to the new, we create whole new jobs that need to be filled. There is much more to this, but you'll need to research it yourselves from this point onward.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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Thanks to all of you who have participated so far!

Everyone of you that have has impressed me quite a bit! I may not always agree with you all, but I certainly respect you and your opinions more when you put them like this.

When each of you express yourselves this way, you're showing me that you're thinking deeper about things, that you have good reasons to support your candidate that does not involve insults and name calling (those things make my eyes glaze over).

I'm quite happy to be proven wrong........so far, ehehehehehe.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: eriktheawful

Part of the reason I'm a bit delayed is, while I looked into Stein before, inspired by this, I'm looking more in depth into all her policies. I'm finding I still agree with most, but going through all this and finding ways to really transfer it here is proving more work than I anticipated.

So actually I'm learning more about the finer details of my candidate due to this. Sadly the more I learn the harder time I'm having summarizing it all. I'm overwhelming myself... So not sure I can complete the project good sir.

But know this, even if I don't, I'll be voting with greater understanding and clarity for having started. For that inspiration I thank you.
edit on 8/30/2016 by Puppylove because: grammar and spelling



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 03:52 PM
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Given that I just can not bring myself to supporting either of the prevalent party choices we are being forced to choose from, I would prefer to write in someone I feel could morally lead this nation away from the self destructive path we are currently heading down. I considered Colin Powell because I feel he" is" a morally just person that happened to become enthralled in a corrupt lawless administration and could not get himself out of sporting GW Bush in his dastardly objectives for the middle east. In the end, I think he shamefully regrets ever accepting a position in Bush's administration but, alas, he is too old now.

Another person I considered is Wesley Clark but he is too old now to.

Then I happened to think of this guy.

Chris Hedges

(born September 18, 1956) is an American journalist, activist, author, and Presbyterian minister. Hedges is also known as the best-selling author of several books including War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning (2002)—a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for Nonfiction—Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle (2009), Death of the Liberal Class (2010), the New York Times best seller, Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt (2012), and his most recent Wages of Rebellion: The Moral Imperative of Revolt (2015).

Hedges spent nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent in Central America, the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans. He has reported from more than fifty countries, and has worked for The Christian Science Monitor, NPR, Dallas Morning News, and The New York Times,[7] where he was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years (1990–2005).

In 2002 Hedges was part of a group of eight reporters at The New York Times awarded the Pulitzer Prize for the paper's coverage of global terrorism. He also received the Amnesty International Global Award for Human Rights Journalism in 2002.[8] He has taught at Columbia University, New York University, Princeton University,[7][9][10] and the University of Toronto.[11] He currently teaches prisoners at a maximum-security prison in New Jersey.[8] He has described himself as a socialist.[12]

Hedges was an early critic of the Iraq War. In May 2003, Hedges delivered a commencement address at Rockford College in Rockford, Illinois, saying: "We are embarking on an occupation that, if history is any guide, will be as damaging to our souls as it will be to our prestige and power and security

There is more to his bio for anyone interested.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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Eriktheawful...

I am shocked that it is even considered worth discussing the candidates in this particular election. The fact is that it is impossible to be morally sound, whilst being determined to vote for either of them. They are both criminal scum with no right or qualification to command anything more important than a lunch trolley. That's right, Trump is not fit to do anything much except hand out snacks, and he would need Hilary's help to make sure that hot drinks were also available.

Neither of these individuals understands accountability, Trump has not told the truth in longer than his daughter has been alive, and Hilary is so allergic to the truth that she BSes even when she does not have to. These people, whether fans of one or the other, have to be totally and completely mentally deficient. And then you have those folk who seem to be all about the lesser of two evils.

Let me tell all of those folk something right now. You either fight the hegemony, or you accept it, and if you do the second thing, rather than the first, that makes you a giant coward. This is your COUNTRY you are talking about! The lives and wellbeing of your millions of citizens, their futures, pensions, jobs and education, the infrastructure that makes living their lives possible.

Leaving it in the hands of the least of two evils is a sick, twisted, and above all OLD mistake, one that people need to stop damned well making before they get the rest of their citizens killed by their complacency. It makes me absolutely sick.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 04:00 PM
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Does anyone have any recommendations for who could lead our nation outside of the DNC, RNC, Libertarian, or Green party?

Someone less political, and more about principled leadership that ignores sillyness like platforms, voter approval, and fundraising?



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

I agree with you on everything except the thread in which you put it.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Uh-Oh, you broke the original rules of engagement of not criticizing a candidate. Look out! Here comes da BOOM.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: CharlesT

Well I am certainly sorry to have broken any rules, but the fact of the matter is that in a situation as serious as this one, it does not benefit anyone to be less than brutally honest about the circumstances. The fact is that you have two absolutely unelectable villains vying for the top spot.

No one seems to be prepared to accept this as fact, and consider alternatives extensively. There are no movements to get this election hung, and rebooted with properly representative candidates, fair voting systems, no party interference and so on and so forth. There are not significant efforts to ensure that a president is elected who will not be either candidate currently billed for the position.

Ergo, something has gone terribly wrong, both on The Hill, and in every place where voting has occurred for any of the candidates. I am literally looking at American politics right now, and shaking my head in disbelief, because there is simply no way to reconcile the Americans I have interacted with, and what I know of their steadfast commitment to their constitution, their rights and liberties, their freedoms, and the ability for anyone in that nation to support the candidates as presented.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: eriktheawful
I'll be voting for the Libertarian slate even though I'm independent. I'll vote for them because they have the same basic ideas about governance that I hold; that the US Constitution is the best foundation for a workable society.
Both Johnson and Weld are proven leaders who understand the way governments work due to their experience as governors. They can work with both parties as evidenced by their performance as governors in states that were heavily tilted toward the opposition party in registration.
Even though I don't agree with every single plank in the platform, as long as they support and defend the Constitution they will have my support.
Johnson has pointed out that the current system needs renovation. He's willing to do the destruction needed for the renovations to occur. He's willing to make the hard decisions to get the country to living within its means instead of spending my grandchildren's paychecks. He's willing to do whatever is in his executive power to stop putting people in jail for growing and consuming a God-given plant. That stance alone would have me voting for him so his proven record of leadership and Weld's economic knowledge is icing on the cake.
Their stance on National Defense is another plus in my opinion. I'm tired of seeing my family members sent to foreign lands to act policemen of the world.


3.1 National Defense
We support the maintenance of a sufficient military to defend the United States against aggression. The United States should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as policeman for the world. We oppose any form of compulsory national service.


Both men on this slate have had successful double terms as governors. They have the needed experience in government and they believe in classical Jeffersonian liberalism. So do I so I'm in their camp.
I agree with you that I've never seen quite so much bashing of the candidates and so little about what they will actually do to bring the country back to it's foundations of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

I certainly respect your right to your opinion.

Unfortunately, you seem to have not understand what my OP was about. I may not have been clear on it.

The idea of this thread was: Can you post something about a candidate that you support without having to bash, insult or tear down either an opposing candidate, or their supporters.

Accepted candidates for the purpose of this thread is: Anyone.

Posting here did not mean anyone had to support any of the actual candidates that are running and well known (IE Trump, Hillary, Johnson, and Stein), but could be any one that was trying to get nominated before...or: even your neighbor, someone you admire.

As far as I was concerned, if someone wants Putin to run, that would be acceptable for the idea of this thread. The entire idea was: can you support whom you want to support in a positive way, without having to resort to negative things about others or their supporters.

So either I utterly failed to convey this to you with my OP.......or the answer for you was: No, there is no one you can support without being completely negative.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

See my previous post just 2 above yours.



posted on Aug, 30 2016 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: eriktheawful

I suppose you are right. There are no viable candidates.

Hence the thing needs rebooting from the start, and the DNC, and RNC need to be banned from having any financial, or organisational involvement in the process. Their candidates may run, but if the string pullers even get within a mile of a rally or a fundraiser they need locking the hell up until after the votes have been cast.



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