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originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: chr0naut
This is different. Going by that belief everything in the universe is God. Even you are a part of God.
Yeshi prays to his father many times. Begs him when he finds out his going to die.
Schizophrenic?
Coomba98
I would have thought that He did all that for our benefit. As an example.
originally posted by: coomba98
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: chr0naut
This is different. Going by that belief everything in the universe is God. Even you are a part of God.
Yeshi prays to his father many times. Begs him when he finds out his going to die.
Schizophrenic?
Coomba98
I would have thought that He did all that for our benefit. As an example.
Even God distinguishes between him and his son.
If their one and the same 'entity', then would such statements by God/Yeshi be tantamount to lying? Or deceiving?
So when Yeshi was on the cross and be begged his father to spare the people for they know not what they do be for our benefit?
Or what about Luke 9:18. One day Jesus was alone talking to God.
If their the same 'entity' how is that not schizophrenic?
Coomba98
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Raggedyman
a reply to: SpaceGoatFart
a reply to: DISRAELI
a reply to: markosity1973
So what you guys are saying is that you dont really know so you have faith in Gods agape towards mankind? And 'hope' that its for the best...
I still cannot wrap my head around Gods agape to man is unknowable because his God. I dont take the god of the gaps approach.
How can Gods agape include mass murder? Or torture like in Job. That was God showing off in front of the devil. He did not care for Job.
Or his family and servants. They never came back from the dead Job just got new ones.
Coomba98
(whispers: lets try and be civil here. If not know this... i love trolling trolls and im relentless at it)
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: chr0naut
This is different. Going by that belief everything in the universe is God. Even you are a part of God.
Yeshi prays to his father many times. Begs him when he finds out his going to die.
Schizophrenic?
Coomba98
I would have thought that He did all that for our benefit. As an example.
Even God distinguishes between him and his son.
If their one and the same 'entity', then would such statements by God/Yeshi be tantamount to lying? Or deceiving?
So when Yeshi was on the cross and be begged his father to spare the people for they know not what they do be for our benefit?
Or what about Luke 9:18. One day Jesus was alone talking to God.
If their the same 'entity' how is that not schizophrenic?
Coomba98
Because He was God and the only begotten Son of God and He became flesh. In this human realm, things change.
And yes, Jesus words on the cross are most definitely an exaple to us of extreme forgiveness. They weren't empty sermonizing, Jesus practiced what He preached.
Similarly, Jesus had no requrement to be baptized by John the Baptist, as John himself pointed out, but Jesus said it had to be done so that the law be fulfilled and as an example. Jesus' modus operandi seems to have been Him doing and saying things for the good of prosperity (our good).
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Raggedyman
a reply to: SpaceGoatFart
a reply to: DISRAELI
a reply to: markosity1973
So what you guys are saying is that you dont really know so you have faith in Gods agape towards mankind? And 'hope' that its for the best...
I still cannot wrap my head around Gods agape to man is unknowable because his God. I dont take the god of the gaps approach.
How can Gods agape include mass murder? Or torture like in Job. That was God showing off in front of the devil. He did not care for Job.
Or his family and servants. They never came back from the dead Job just got new ones.
Coomba98
(whispers: lets try and be civil here. If not know this... i love trolling trolls and im relentless at it)
Let me see if I got this right
"Let's try and be civil" yet you call people names, hmmm
"If not" know this" you make a demand, threat
"I will troll you relentlessly" you blackmail us to playing the game, you dictate your rules and act like an impetuous child, overlording your authority (and you have none)
Threaten to be a personal troll, another troll on ats, oooh, I am frightened
Try the mature adult approach
" Hey guys, I would really like to understand this, please help, it seems illogical, thanks.
Havnt seen anyone so confused since gnosisfaith, are you gnosisfaith...
When most people think of the origins of a religion, they assume it was handed down from deity as is.
However, many religions were actually created by taking pieces of various religions and adapting them to fit a given framework, or by blending together two or more faiths to create a new faith that embraces the parent faiths’ doctrines. Not surprisingly, these two practices, eclecticism and syncretism, are not very well understood by many people.
define a syncretic religion as a religion which combines elements from two or more faiths. An eclectic religion is a religion comprised of bits and pieces of various religions; in some cases only the “best” pieces are used.
originally posted by: coomba98
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Raggedyman
a reply to: SpaceGoatFart
a reply to: DISRAELI
a reply to: markosity1973
So what you guys are saying is that you dont really know so you have faith in Gods agape towards mankind? And 'hope' that its for the best...
I still cannot wrap my head around Gods agape to man is unknowable because his God. I dont take the god of the gaps approach.
How can Gods agape include mass murder? Or torture like in Job. That was God showing off in front of the devil. He did not care for Job.
Or his family and servants. They never came back from the dead Job just got new ones.
Coomba98
(whispers: lets try and be civil here. If not know this... i love trolling trolls and im relentless at it)
Let me see if I got this right
"Let's try and be civil" yet you call people names, hmmm
"If not" know this" you make a demand, threat
"I will troll you relentlessly" you blackmail us to playing the game, you dictate your rules and act like an impetuous child, overlording your authority (and you have none)
Threaten to be a personal troll, another troll on ats, oooh, I am frightened
Try the mature adult approach
" Hey guys, I would really like to understand this, please help, it seems illogical, thanks.
Havnt seen anyone so confused since gnosisfaith, are you gnosisfaith...
Raggedyman,
Why is it that the weak (bullies) and the ignorant always interprets a warning as a threat?
A warning as a threat?
Plus go back and re-read. I didnt bite until you guys did. So nice try there.
And you call me confused. Lol.
How about answering without offence? For the response wont include offence if theres no offence to reply too?
How can you so called 'Christians' not get this?
Talk about contradicting the words of Yeshi!!
Coomba98
originally posted by: coomba98
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: chr0naut
This is different. Going by that belief everything in the universe is God. Even you are a part of God.
Yeshi prays to his father many times. Begs him when he finds out his going to die.
Schizophrenic?
Coomba98
I would have thought that He did all that for our benefit. As an example.
Even God distinguishes between him and his son.
If their one and the same 'entity', then would such statements by God/Yeshi be tantamount to lying? Or deceiving?
So when Yeshi was on the cross and be begged his father to spare the people for they know not what they do be for our benefit?
Or what about Luke 9:18. One day Jesus was alone talking to God.
If their the same 'entity' how is that not schizophrenic?
Coomba98
Because He was God and the only begotten Son of God and He became flesh. In this human realm, things change.
And yes, Jesus words on the cross are most definitely an exaple to us of extreme forgiveness. They weren't empty sermonizing, Jesus practiced what He preached.
Similarly, Jesus had no requrement to be baptized by John the Baptist, as John himself pointed out, but Jesus said it had to be done so that the law be fulfilled and as an example. Jesus' modus operandi seems to have been Him doing and saying things for the good of prosperity (our good).
chr0naut.
Im not denying that Yeshi was not a God in the Christian mythology.
Im saying Yeshi and his Father are two separate entities. Part of the same godhead. Like the godhead of ancient greece is the 12 gods of Olympus. 12 separate entities.
The cross part i agree show a massive amount of forgiveness, but it does not confirm father and son to be the same entity.
What made you come to the conclusion Yeshi and Daddy are one entity?
Coomba98
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: chr0naut
This is different. Going by that belief everything in the universe is God. Even you are a part of God.
Yeshi prays to his father many times. Begs him when he finds out his going to die.
Schizophrenic?
Coomba98
I would have thought that He did all that for our benefit. As an example.
Even God distinguishes between him and his son.
If their one and the same 'entity', then would such statements by God/Yeshi be tantamount to lying? Or deceiving?
So when Yeshi was on the cross and be begged his father to spare the people for they know not what they do be for our benefit?
Or what about Luke 9:18. One day Jesus was alone talking to God.
If their the same 'entity' how is that not schizophrenic?
Coomba98
Because He was God and the only begotten Son of God and He became flesh. In this human realm, things change.
And yes, Jesus words on the cross are most definitely an exaple to us of extreme forgiveness. They weren't empty sermonizing, Jesus practiced what He preached.
Similarly, Jesus had no requrement to be baptized by John the Baptist, as John himself pointed out, but Jesus said it had to be done so that the law be fulfilled and as an example. Jesus' modus operandi seems to have been Him doing and saying things for the good of prosperity (our good).
chr0naut.
Im not denying that Yeshi was not a God in the Christian mythology.
Im saying Yeshi and his Father are two separate entities. Part of the same godhead. Like the godhead of ancient greece is the 12 gods of Olympus. 12 separate entities.
The cross part i agree show a massive amount of forgiveness, but it does not confirm father and son to be the same entity.
What made you come to the conclusion Yeshi and Daddy are one entity?
Coomba98
Jesus said it Himself: "I and the Father are one".
If you would suggest an alternate interpretation, consider the context of where it was said, who said it, to whom it was said and why it was said. Also, look at their reaction to it; they took up stones to stone him and said, in explanation; "You are human. yet you make yourself out to be God". I think you could not get it any clearer than that (summarized from John 10:25-38).
originally posted by: luciferslight
Catholics idk what they believe but the cleansing of sins via Eucharist.
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Raggedyman
I think you need to get some thicker skin Raggedyman. But i dont see it happening.
Weaklings always use the threat interpretation as opposed what it really is.. a warning.
Linking me up with Padawan is another weak response. I said previously 'dont turn into Padawan'. Never said you were like him. But you obviously missed that 'warning' and took offence.
You really dont like discussing things in a civil way from viewing previous posts of yours.
Man up and stop acting like a child.
Coomba98
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Raggedyman
Raggedyman.
Lol your a funny one. Youve seen my posts to Padawan. Anyone who has knows i have skin of steel. Lol.
To say i have thinnish skin is just plain stupid.
How about getting back on topic? Or do you wish to keep whinging like a child who missed out at cookie time?
Easier to attack the person and not the subject.
You offend i offend. Do unto others and all that.
Or did you miss that part of Yeshi's teachings.
How about manning up digger?
Im not here to argue personally, i am happy to do so. You really up for challenging me? Someone who takes the offence twists it and throws it right back at you. Without me being offended... you seen my chats with Padawan? You up for that?
I personally dont want to go down that road with you or anyone that is not Padawan Googlemiser. But if push comes to shove.... challange accepted.
Coomba98
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Raggedyman
Raggedyman.
Lol your a funny one. Youve seen my posts to Padawan. Anyone who has knows i have skin of steel. Lol.
To say i have thinnish skin is just plain stupid.
How about getting back on topic? Or do you wish to keep whinging like a child who missed out at cookie time?
Easier to attack the person and not the subject.
You offend i offend. Do unto others and all that.
Or did you miss that part of Yeshi's teachings.
How about manning up digger?
Im not here to argue personally, i am happy to do so. You really up for challenging me? Someone who takes the offence twists it and throws it right back at you. Without me being offended... you seen my chats with Padawan? You up for that?
I personally dont want to go down that road with you or anyone that is not Padawan Googlemiser. But if push comes to shove.... challange accepted.
Coomba98
You going to brow beat me on the net.
I am happy to man up, just not with kids.
If you have a question, ask it, in a sincere genuine way.