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reply posted on 21-1-2005 @ 04:42 PM by E_T
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There's definitely lot of asteroid/comet sized objects in Kuiper Belt and Oort's cloud but any big object there would be detected... unless it lies at "half way to nearest star".

Well... it just depend on what is the size limit of planet, if that limit it's small enough Pluto could almost be called as "double planet" because diameter of it's moon, Charon, is half of Pluto's.
www.solarviews.com...

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reply posted on 22-1-2005 @ 03:20 AM by Better Dead than Smeg
What is the definition of a planet? If what defines a planet is a surface and surface materials then we can discount "planets" such as Jupiter and Saturn as they are just giant spinning balls of gas that are held together by massive gravitational forces. If what defines a planet is, instead, a body of material "floating" in space then where do we make the distintion between, say, our planet Earth and our Moon? Or perhaps Mercury and Halley's Comet? The definition of a planet was first concieved around the time of Copericus and therefore is NOT valid in todays times with our increased knowledge of our galaxy/universe.
Having said this I believe it is possible that another possible Jupiter-sized "planet" or body could exist outside what is generally considered to be the outer reaches of our solar system and possibly could have an effect on the gravitational forces working within. Is it so hard to believe that even though we cannot see or accurately detect it that it isnt there? What if this supposed body is unlike anything we have currently detected? What if (and now Im going off on a sci-fi rant) this body emits some sort of unknown radiation that deflects our current scanning techniques? What if (assuming the body exists) it conforms to the off-shoot of physics and enters the world of quantum physics? Could the body emit some form of Dark Energy that defects our scans? Could the body be dark matter itself? I leave it with you.....food for thought.



reply posted on 22-1-2005 @ 03:57 AM by E_T
Originally posted by Better Dead than Smeg
What is the definition of a planet? If what defines a planet is a surface and surface materials then we can discount "planets" such as Jupiter and Saturn as they are just giant spinning balls of gas that are held together by massive gravitational forces. If what defines a planet is, instead, a body of material "floating" in space then where do we make the distintion between, say, our planet Earth and our Moon?
It's simple, Moon orbits "primarily" Earth, not Sun.

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And it's very propable that even gas planets have solid cores wich are much bigger than Earth, it's just at the time of planets formation there was much more available gas in outer solar system than inner solar system so they collected much of it around their solid cores.
And big parts of them are in liquid form because huge pressure compress gasses to liquid.


Originally posted by Broadsword20068
I read that they knew something was tugging at Jupiter and Saturn and that Pluto is far too small for that, so it must be something beyond Pluto.
PS. There's Uranus and Neptune between them and Pluto.


reply posted on 23-1-2005 @ 04:42 AM by E_T
Originally posted by trust_no_one
i thought i heard a while ago(like a good 8 or 9 months) on the news that they found a tenth planet (planet x) but they renamed it Sedna, im not sure on its size or anything though
It's KBO (Kuiper Belt Object) or one of the objects of Oort cloud.

en.wikipedia.org...
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And we might have to decrease size estimates of found KBOs.
he size of a distant object is often based on an estimate of its reflectivity, a measure called albedo. For years astronomers had assumed KBOs were pretty dark, reflecting just 4 percent of the sunlight that hit them.

University of Arizona astronomer John Stansberry used NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope to obtain actual albedos for some of these icy objects.

"Our results have albedos ranging from 6 percent to 18 percent for the eight objects I've analyzed," Stansberry said. If a KBO is brighter than thought, then less surface area is required to reflect the amount of sunlight that was measured -- so the object's size must be revised downward.
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reply posted on 23-1-2005 @ 04:37 PM by E_T
Originally posted by Verbal_Hologram
Heres a good link to planet x research:
xfacts.com...
Which doesn't stick in truth like it's tradition with these self-proclaimed doomsday prophets.

And where is that end of the world prophetized for year 2003... or was it postponed until they draw lots for next date?

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www.nineplanets.org... (that Nine Planets link to current address)


Originally posted by shots
Originally posted by mrwupy
I just can't help but wonder why anyone would believe such stuff. Wupy
Here from your own source:

The data received is vague and is yet to be confirmed

One day Chicken Little was walking in the woods when -- KERPLUNK -- an acorn fell on her head
"Oh my goodness!" said Chicken Little. "The sky is falling! I must go and tell the king."

On her way to the king's palace, Chicken Little met Henny Penny. Henny Penny said that she was going into the woods to hunt for worms.
"Oh no, don't go!" said Chicken Little. "I was there and the sky fell on my head! Come with me to tell the king."

So Henny Penny joined Chicken Little and they went along and went along as fast as they could.

Soon they met Cocky Locky, who said, "I'm going to the woods to hunt for seeds."

"Oh no, don't go!" said Henny Penny. "The sky is falling there! Come with us to tell the king."

So Cocky Locky joined Henny Penny and Chicken Little, and they went along and went along as fast as they could.

Soon they met Goosey Poosey, who was planning to go to the woods to look for berries.

"Oh no, don't go!" said Cocky Locky. "The sky is falling there! Come with us to tell the king." So Goosey Poosey joined Cocky Locky, Henny Penny and Chicken Little, and they went along as fast as they could.

Then who should appear on the path but sly old Foxy Woxy.

"Where are you going, my fine feathered friends?" asked Foxy Woxy. He spoke in a polite manner, so as not to frighten them.

"The sky is falling!" cried Chicken Little. "We must tell the king."

"I know a shortcut to the palace," said Foxy woxy sweetly. "Come and follow me."

But wicked Foxy Woxy did not lead the others to the palace. He led them right up to the entrance of his foxhole. Once they were inside, Foxy Woxy was planning to gobble them up!
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