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I think I'll vote this year, who should I vote for? And Why?

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posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
Sarah Siobhan For President!!
That's one of my dogs and she would be a better choice that either candidate.


I am intrigued, what are Ms Siobhans' views on immigration?




posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Cosmocow

I thought Johnson/Weld was a good ticket at first. Then I found that Johnson supports open boarders and is for the TPP. Weld is not pro 2nd amendment.

Those three strikes are a deal breaker for me.


Yup, can't even make a protest vote, maybe Cthulhu?



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Cosmocow
I am 40 years old, male, and live in New Hampshire. I am a single father of a wonderful 8 year old boy. His future is now weighing on my mind these days. I want like all parents want, what will be the best possible future for my son.

I have never really been into politics, know just the basics about politics, am a registered independent voter, but have never actually voted before. With all the hoop-la this year, I have decided that I will indeed cast a vote this year, I have been mulling over whom I should vote for and have been looking for opinions.

These are my view so far:
Donald Trump: Not the medias or anyones ideal choice for a candidate. Outspoken, not "politically correct", but often vilified by the media or anyone in Hollywood. Claims to be the candidate for change but is running under the GOP umbrella. No sure what to think of The Donald, I only watched a few episodes of the celebrity apprentice, but I kind of liked it.

Hillary Clinton: Never really liked her. Like i said was never into politics but remember her under Slick Willy's watch. For some reason, I didn't like her, and that was just my first impression just from seeing her on TV. Not sure what her real political achievements are but i know she has been in politics well after being First Lady, she was a NY senator, ran for the POTUS slot but Obama got it, SOS, now trying to be POTUS again. The name "Clinton" to me for some reason is almost like a crime family name. Throughout my years I have heard numerous theories regarding the Clintons but nothing seemed to stick, always reminded me of Teflon Don.

Johnson/Weld: No clue about theses guys other than Weld. Once i was at a Beanpot game at the old Boston Garden and a few seats over and rows back was then Governor Weld. Seemed like a down to earth guy drinking a beer and watching BC destroy Northeastern.

Anyhow, i really am torn of who to actually vote for. The first time i think i want to and there are no actual candidates who seem worthy enough to get my vote. Could I vote for the Clinton Dynasty, it seems as if its been them or the Bush's pulling the strings for decades now. Could I vote for the Donald? The media and all of Hollywood are telling me not to? But all of my relatives in Kentucky are telling me to vote for him. Or do I say eff it? And vote 3rd party?

I am looking for that one argument that solidifies my vote, whomever side it comes from...all opinions are welcome!!!



Trump. He will destroy the evangelical conservatives hold on the GOP. Raise min wage and change Obama care to single payer.



So, you like him because he is a socialist?



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 01:07 PM
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All the candidates lack Presidential capacity this year, plus you live in New Hamshire which is going to go to Clinton anyway (Blue states tend to do that) . . . so the best logical choice is to vote Libertarian (Johnson) in order to try and get the 5% needed for fund matching which will help us have 3 legitimate choices next go around.



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 01:08 PM
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What do YOU want ?



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: Cosmocow

Yea, I get that. We're at extreme opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of State orientation; yours being blue and mine being red. Trump will take my state by 10% at this point, if the polls hold up.

But then again, I doubt the Red states will ever again elect a POTUS, least not in my lifetime. A State as extremely Red as mine has nothing in common with the very Blue states.



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Not the same old status quo...at this point I am starting to believe the people's vote even really matters anymore. It always seems the rich get richer and poor get poorer.

And to others, obviously i know its ultimately my choice. But I was hoping someone would honestly tell me why they are voting one way or another. No candidate has done that, so why not ask the community online where I sometimes come to read alternative theories and ideas? I was hoping to get a real answer, not the same old regurgitated answers we've been hearing for years upon years. I've asked people at my employment, we have discussions, but the answer is always "the lesser of the two evils"...



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: greencmp

I guess one thing i do like about Trump is, that IMO, win or lose, he has forever changed a party...or ended it. So even if not elected, hopefully the change he has started within a major political party can continue...



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: xtradimensions

Your link suggested I vote for Trump...



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: CosmocowOh my. Please don't vote if this is how you're going to go about it.



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: Cosmocow
a reply to: greencmp

I guess one thing i do like about Trump is, that IMO, win or lose, he has forever changed a party...or ended it. So even if not elected, hopefully the change he has started within a major political party can continue...


Trump can't change anything. Trump is part of the sickness that has taken control of the GOP, not the cause of it. Trump was chosen by the Republicans in a last ditch effort to maintain some sort of relevancy in a changing America and it's blown up in their face.
edit on 29-8-2016 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: Cosmocow

Since you will already hear a tonnage of advice from the posters and the media etc. etc.

I will go contrarian here...

Pick two youtube clips of recent speechs...Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton..

Preview a minute or two of each to make sure they don't talk about issues inappropriate for an 8 year old..

Maybe clips from each candidates convention...show the clips to your son and ask him his opinion on who he thinks should be President.




edit on 29-8-2016 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 03:41 PM
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If you are liberal minded, I would say you should vote for Jill Stein of the Green party. If you are of a more conservative bent, I would say to vote for Gary Johnson.

I would never counsel anyone to vote for Trump or Clinton. They are both human garbage.



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 03:50 PM
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Just my two cents. Firstly a vote for Johnson or Stein (have no chance to win) is a de facto vote for Hillary. Secondly Hillary will continue and advance what Obama has started and IM that isn't a good think on many levels. Look at our Taxes, Healthcare, Foreign Policy, Safety, immigration, and a bunch of other issue's and what Obama has done has made us less safe, less prosperous, more taxed, worse healthcare options, and the list goes on and Hillary will continue the Obama agenda and add her corrupt twist to the equation.

No Trump is certainly not the best last option but as a father he supports school choice, He supports less taxes and regulations, he supports enforcing illegal immigration, he is for limiting those that wish harm to enter our country, he does not have the iou's to corporations and foreign entities that Hillary has.

Trump imo is the lessor of all the evils and the fact he pisses of all the democrats and most of the gop tells me he will do more for Americans then any of the other #ty options!



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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First, you must differentiate between what qualities you are looking for in a leader and the qualities that make a great leader. The qualities that make a great leader are: cunning, ruthlessness, patience, and a clear vision of the future. Most people look for superficial qualities, or simply succumb to the social pressure in the decision making process.

Hillary Clinton, is a life-long politician, the embodiment of evil and corruption. Under her guidance, America's quality of life will decline seeking parity with the rest of the world. American culture will be destroyed, and replaced with a New Age Globalist society. Poverty will be wiped out, literally, through mandatory abortions and forced sterilization; the government will have full control over a person's health, including reproductive health due to out of control state healthcare costs.

Over time, due to a Clinton presidency, the US will be sold off to foreign interests brick by brick. A very bleak future, with no hope. She may be ruthless and patient, but with all the scandals coming to light, America just might dodge a very large bullet.

Donald Trump has no political history, save for the fact of his support of Globalist policies. However, unlike Hillary, The Donald will take America in a very different direction. Rather than a path towards a Global Government built on the ashes of America, The Donald will move America into a truly Global Empire. Those loyal and capable, which may include your child, will be rewarded with loot and plunder of American Conquest.

Yes, under Donald or Hillary, there will be a global war. The question is, which one is capable of winning it? Hillary Clinton embraces political correctness, a death knell to any civilization. In my opinion, it would be more advantageous under a Trump presidency.

I've been noticing ads on tv and radio lately, of Gary Johnson. Libertarianism, or classical liberalism, died a hundred years ago; under a libertarian presidency Globalism takes it's most predatory form. No regulations on corporations, it would not last long, corporations would be free to bribe and collude with the government.

Under Gary Johnson, your child would be given the opportunity growing up working in a sweat shop, with a competitive wage on par with China. There would be no recourse, to the grotesque abuses of unfettered corporate exploitation and pollution. There will still be a global war under Johnson, except it would be purely for profit, there would be no grand objective except optimizing profits.

The choice is yours, I've made mine.




posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: Cosmocow

I am bias ,someone is threatening my country and I REALLY don't like her...but the DAMN loud mouth MIGHT be a LIE and THAT too would suck.
I'm sorry.



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Cosmocow
I am 40 years old, male, and live in New Hampshire. I am a single father of a wonderful 8 year old boy. His future is now weighing on my mind these days. I want like all parents want, what will be the best possible future for my son.

I have never really been into politics, know just the basics about politics, am a registered independent voter, but have never actually voted before. With all the hoop-la this year, I have decided that I will indeed cast a vote this year, I have been mulling over whom I should vote for and have been looking for opinions.

These are my view so far:
Donald Trump: Not the medias or anyones ideal choice for a candidate. Outspoken, not "politically correct", but often vilified by the media or anyone in Hollywood. Claims to be the candidate for change but is running under the GOP umbrella. No sure what to think of The Donald, I only watched a few episodes of the celebrity apprentice, but I kind of liked it.

Hillary Clinton: Never really liked her. Like i said was never into politics but remember her under Slick Willy's watch. For some reason, I didn't like her, and that was just my first impression just from seeing her on TV. Not sure what her real political achievements are but i know she has been in politics well after being First Lady, she was a NY senator, ran for the POTUS slot but Obama got it, SOS, now trying to be POTUS again. The name "Clinton" to me for some reason is almost like a crime family name. Throughout my years I have heard numerous theories regarding the Clintons but nothing seemed to stick, always reminded me of Teflon Don.

Johnson/Weld: No clue about theses guys other than Weld. Once i was at a Beanpot game at the old Boston Garden and a few seats over and rows back was then Governor Weld. Seemed like a down to earth guy drinking a beer and watching BC destroy Northeastern.

Anyhow, i really am torn of who to actually vote for. The first time i think i want to and there are no actual candidates who seem worthy enough to get my vote. Could I vote for the Clinton Dynasty, it seems as if its been them or the Bush's pulling the strings for decades now. Could I vote for the Donald? The media and all of Hollywood are telling me not to? But all of my relatives in Kentucky are telling me to vote for him. Or do I say eff it? And vote 3rd party?

I am looking for that one argument that solidifies my vote, whomever side it comes from...all opinions are welcome!!!



Trump. He will destroy the evangelical conservatives hold on the GOP. Raise min wage and change Obama care to single payer.



So, you like him because he is a socialist?



Half of every countries economy is socialism. No country has even attempted a 100% capitalist society.

I think a democrat president will be blocked if they try and say , raise min wage. Trump the republicans will not be able to unite against.

He'll look at immigration, 3/4ths of the No amnesty republicans instantly flipped when trump just hinted he would do that.



posted on Aug, 29 2016 @ 06:07 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
First, you must differentiate between what qualities you are looking for in a leader and the qualities that make a great leader. The qualities that make a great leader are: cunning, ruthlessness, patience, and a clear vision of the future. Most people look for superficial qualities, or simply succumb to the social pressure in the decision making process.

Hillary Clinton, is a life-long politician, the embodiment of evil and corruption. Under her guidance, America's quality of life will decline seeking parity with the rest of the world. American culture will be destroyed, and replaced with a New Age Globalist society. Poverty will be wiped out, literally, through mandatory abortions and forced sterilization; the government will have full control over a person's health, including reproductive health due to out of control state healthcare costs.

Over time, due to a Clinton presidency, the US will be sold off to foreign interests brick by brick. A very bleak future, with no hope. She may be ruthless and patient, but with all the scandals coming to light, America just might dodge a very large bullet.

Donald Trump has no political history, save for the fact of his support of Globalist policies. However, unlike Hillary, The Donald will take America in a very different direction. Rather than a path towards a Global Government built on the ashes of America, The Donald will move America into a truly Global Empire. Those loyal and capable, which may include your child, will be rewarded with loot and plunder of American Conquest.

Yes, under Donald or Hillary, there will be a global war. The question is, which one is capable of winning it? Hillary Clinton embraces political correctness, a death knell to any civilization. In my opinion, it would be more advantageous under a Trump presidency.

I've been noticing ads on tv and radio lately, of Gary Johnson. Libertarianism, or classical liberalism, died a hundred years ago; under a libertarian presidency Globalism takes it's most predatory form. No regulations on corporations, it would not last long, corporations would be free to bribe and collude with the government.

Under Gary Johnson, your child would be given the opportunity growing up working in a sweat shop, with a competitive wage on par with China. There would be no recourse, to the grotesque abuses of unfettered corporate exploitation and pollution. There will still be a global war under Johnson, except it would be purely for profit, there would be no grand objective except optimizing profits.

The choice is yours, I've made mine.




I think a far shorter answer is:

Hillary = Status Quo

Trump = High risk, high reward.



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