Is humanity doomed to repeat history over and over? I know its an obvious observation that "we" homo sapiens are a disconnected lot. Same species yet
so many different activities going on all around the world. With ISIS we see the rising tide of barbarism, with CERN and facilities like H.A.A.R.P we
see technologies that are playing with the fundamental forces in the universe and nature....shades of Atlantis? Is there truly only one time and it is
NOW? I am a fan of John Keel, if you haven't read him yet, shame on you go get every one of his books and the compilations of his articles by Andrew
The title of this post is a reference to something John Keel mentioned in several of his books. "It's as if there is a great
phonograph in the sky that got cracked and the needle is stuck in a single groove, single groove, single groove..." I am going to be all over the
place in this post because, well I feel like I am cracking up a bit. You see the synchronicities that have occurred in my life are just too blatant
and obviously the product of something other that random chance that I just can't ignore them. I don't have any delusions about myself, I can
recognize those thoughts/fantasies of mine that are the product of what Joseph Cambell called the "hero's journey" that we all are on and dismiss them
or recognize them for what they are and let them come and go. Oh how I wish I could be a reductionist materialist, I truly do. It would be so nice to
have the the universe figured out...born alone, die alone, entropy, and the heat death of the universe....you probably know the type, or are one.
Sitting back reading "The God Delusion" and "The Believing Brain," re-newing your subscription to "Skeptical Inquirer" feeling quite content in your
solipsist worldview. Well I won't waste your time with all of my stories but I will share one with you that happened a few years ago.
I read my first John Keel book back in 08, UFO Operation Trojan Horse. I read it again...and again. It was one of those books packed
with information and theories that it seemed like every time I read it I discovered something new. A new anecdote, a new theory, a new story from
history that was unexplained. I then bought every other Keel book available, except the Mothman Prophecies. I avoided that because I had seen the, in
my opinion, bland movie starring Richard Gere and just felt like it might be one of his lesser works and skipped it. Big mistake. I finally read it
about three years ago....god how time flies! The book really got me thinking about my own ufo/paranormal experiences. It was uncanny how he described
things that happened to me. This book was written 20 years before I was even born! I did have a ufo sighting when I was 15, as described in my
signature link. During the time my family and I were experiencing many of the strange things Keel describes in Mothman Prophecies. The strange phone
calls, lots of hang ups and "breathers," odd beeping noises with no discernable source, people taking photographs of our home, apparations, overall
sense of fear and an ominous tone to the atmosphere. One time I received a phone call that I was sure was from "dead people" It was a garbled mess,
but it really didn't seem like just a glitch, it was eery. Keel describes all of this in his book...Yes I was a teenager who was interested in "life
in outer space" like so many others. My knowledge of the subject was limited to the very small section of books in the school library and since it was
internet 1.0 56k modems no downloads of books or youtube vids so the internet wasn't quite the resource it is now. He specifically warns against this
interest that can so often lead to belief, belief is the enemy he says. Thinking back on it, I agree completely. I'm sure if I didn't take a serious
interest in the subject these mostly terrifying experiences wouldn't have occurred, I attracted it to me, and "They" fed off me. I saw one once when I
woke up one day When I was 17 or so and felt a small amount of pressure on my back, something like a small cat. I was sleeping on my stomach, I turned
my head and saw what was a gigantic spider face. I flipped out of bed and landed on the floor and watched this thing scurry up the wall and disappear.
I'm sure if he were alive today he would be both amazed and horrified with all that is going on in the world. When I was a small child I had a phobia
of the "trolls" and can recall on one occasion seeing a small cloaked humanoid in the bedroom, this was a wide awake, full on, view. My heart leapt
into my throat and noticing me noticing it, it quickly turned away from me and walked towards the end of the bed, I still have a vague recollection of
it looking at me before it disappeared, it seemed hairy. This is all in line with Keels findings, I KNOW he didn't make this # up. Looking at the
popularity of "Ancient Aliens" and the current state of the world I fear we may be heading towards a time that is exactly what Keel warns against, a
time when we may openly worship this phenomena again. Sit there smugly with your hash pipe and your ten other tabs open to news feeds, porn sites, and
whatever hell other noise you are pumping into your consciousness through this glorious invention of communication, but I think we are on the verge of
another era where these phenomena will be openly worshipped, even encouraged or enforced by the government and worldwide religious leaders. Think of
all the "strange sounds" being reported around the world for the last several years, (phonograph in the sky?) the geological upheavals, and lone
gunmen attacks...."Will we live in a world full of saints or lone gunmen shooting at one another from bell towers?" Are we all being programmed by an
intelligent force that is deliberately creating chaos in this world to feed off the emotions of mankind? Sure seems that way to me. Have the powers
that be, at least in America, come into contact or by now working alongside these things to help perpetuate a non-stop feast through the war on
After reading "Mothmans Prophecies" I was contemplating my experiences and Keels experiences and trying to understand it all. I was
particularly stuck on the phone interference. The day after I read the book I received a series of very odd phone calls. It must be understood that I
had a land line at the time and while I got my fair share of people selling me stuff I have never before or since had something like this happen. I
work nights and was sleeping during the day when I was woken up by the phone ringing. I let the machine get it. Half awake I couldn't make out what
was being said, I was sleeping in my room with my door shut and didn't really care. I fell back to sleep. About 45 minutes later I was again woken up
by the phone, again I let the machine get it but this time there was a lot of talking, taking several minutes so I figured it was important so I got
up. I walked into the living room and listened to a conversation between two men on my answering machine...how? I still don't know. I don't know who
these men are or how it's possible to get a call from two men on separate lines recorded on my machine. As if that weren't odd enough they were
talking about demonic/paranormal experiences and entities feeding off of negative energy. WTF? It was too perfect.
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It's hard to make out. The first is a garbled mess....but while I understand "butt dials" etc, it still just seems creepy to me...but the second call,
from the same number is a mostly decipherable conversation. I can''t just chalk this up to coincidence. Too many phone calls every day are made with
mundane conversations for me to, the day after finishing a book dealing with mysterious phone calls, believe there is nothing to this. Any body out
there have any synchronicities with reading books, particularly Keel's? What the hell is going on here? I think the message to stay positive, as
simple as it is, is sound advice and actually crucial in this day of instant doom porn with horrific ISIS propaganda vids and sickening heart renching
stories every day broadcast and picked up by everyones hearts and minds, fight back with love. Love creates, fear destroys. As tempting as it may be
to say F-it and start radiating to hate and fear...we all can relate to a time, hopefully multiple times, when we were feeling genuine love and felt
the power inherent in it. I do not mean this in a hokey hands across america way, I mean this in as genuine way as possible. If you feel it in your
heart, it gets picked up by others and spreads. Don't over think this...really. Don't confuse your materialistic passions and sensous desires for
love...its a feeling located in your heart, not a thought or self gratifying....oh jeez, sorry to get philosophical here...cough cough. Here is some
John Keel: I really like his presentation at about 21 minutes...particularly relevant to my point in this post...if I have
one..Some Fortean things occurring right now:
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Love it, maybe the most interesting thread in a very long time. Thanks for sharing.
Besides that I can hardly understand the conversation is your phone that bad, or is it just this one time? Could you maybe be so kind and make a
transcription of what you hear?
One of the voices sounds generated, but again maybe that's just a phone quality issue? Does your answering machine always sound like that?
Super cool though and the part I think I did understand was "don't talk about it", so really much appreciated you came here to share.
I have a theory what it could be, but first I would be interested in what ever else you feel could be worth sharing.
Thanks in advance and stay safe
Oh and btw I had no problems with the way you presented it, you made paragraphs and had the proper punctuation and such. But then again, I have read
I have to agree with the poster above, as much as I would really love to try and absorb what your writing, it is very hard to grasp it in the wall of
text. Splitting it up some more will probably bring you more replies too as readers will get the jist of what your presenting much better I think.
From what I have gathered from it so far it does seem quite interesting.
Thanks for the kind reply. The first message is noise, odd but no voices...keel talks about this sort of thing too.The second message
I can make out most of. The phone call seems to be between a man who is having paranormal experiences and what I take to be a pastor/counselor. It
starts out with them mentioning that they sound like they are on a conference call, so they also noticed something odd with the phone line. One says
"Sounds like a three way going on, good because I was talking # about one of the people" the other responds "Ive had that happen before, it's not fun"
""what are you doing later?" "I'm heading to lakeway the halfway center" he blacked out, he tied himself up so he wouldn't...probably a far way to go.
at this point a third voice pops in and says what sounds like "is he a butler?" Right after that the man says " I still see that creature...its a
demon" the other says " you still see him?" "Yeah it's like watching me" "Pray to god my friend" "I know, it's no bull#" " I carry a bible with me
everywhere I go" "It like happened a couple of weeks ago" "i'LL keep that in mind man" "Im kind of spiritual and stuff" "well what happened?" " My
dad said he was talking to his dad who's dead" "Thats not good man cause the spirits don't talk to you, those are demons, but don't say anything drew,
for the most part bring it up to me if it keeps happening and I will help you but until then, alright?" "Alright, I..." "what do you see?" "At night I
hear walking past my door" " does it make your hair stand up and #? is your hair standing up right now?" "i was over there, I heard it growl at me" "
Are you sure?" "There was nothing human about that growl, like there was nobody around.." they make a growling noise and ask if it sounded like that "
like demons, demonic" " I will hook you up man, just text me if it keeps going let me know I'll help you." at this point it fades out a little and
almost sounds like another voice pops in and says "I love you" but it may be the man.."you can come over to my house, i'll help you but we live all
the way in different states? " I know thats why I've been keeping..." "Keep in mind the more you talk about it the more power you give it so just
don't talk about it, unless it keeps bothering you" " that makes sense becasuse I told a few people about it and yeah it got more powerful" "It feeds
of your negative energy man so be positive"
Is humanity doomed to repeat history over and over?
Yes. Because parents that teach their children to compete against each other create within them the desire to be better than others. Instead of
cooperating we fight, those with the most fight rise to the top and make everyone fight....
House of cards collapses again and again.
Pride, anger, arrogance, greed for more and more.
Its a vicious cycle. The perpetual system of the world.
Sorry, I actually thought this thread was about what I've been viewing in the sky the past few nights. Don't mean to hijack this thread, well, the
thread title....So, the past few evenings, as I've been staring up into the sky, I've been seeing these odd faint flashes, EVERY NIGHT NOW! I was
wondering if anyone has seen them?? I don't mean lightning, it's very faint, which seems to me, the flashes are really far out into space, I don't
know, but it creeped me out last night, as I kept seeing this one flash, kept flashing in a long arc, quite a few times, same exact spot. I'm pretty
deep in the woods, so it's a bit easier to see then those in the cities. Please let me know if anyone else is seeing these odd flashes.You have to
look good, in a very dark area, because as I said, they are faint, but going off like a camera, every few seconds. Could it be from some of the SATS
up there???? No storms or anything at all nearby, the past few nights either, no sound like lightning, and it's awful faint to be lightning, as you
must sit outside for a while, til your eyes adjust, then you can start seeing it.......sorry this was so long, again the thread title threw me off, I
got excited thinking someone else was seeing what I was......
There is a thin line between reality and "consensus reality."
The first is the real reality, the other is what we are taught by society and culture and is false but a safe place to park one's mind. That
position serves the effect of not allowing us to look under the bed for what we suspect may be there. Once you know something is there, it is too
late for normal, civil thought and communication.
UFO abductees and people such as yourself live that life, looking beyond the veil but, for the most part, keeping it in place when buying a coffee and
donut. There can be little sharing of that knowledge of your awareness and most efforts will be repulsed and denied. Worse, it scares the consensus
reality receivers away and you are left with isolation and desperation. At that end, ATS serves a purpose.
Not sure why "great phonograph" in the sky would make you think about flashes...unless you thought my post title was "great photograph in the sky"
lol...it's all good. Are you sure you are not just seeing meteors? shooting stars?
I have gotten random phone calls like the ones in your video all throughout my life from my later teenage years until currently. It always sounds like
a garbled mess or unintelligible clicks and frequency noises. Sometimes they just call and don't say anything so I threaten to report them to the BBB
and they hang up before I finish my sentence lol. There was a couple times that after I did that, I got a call and it was my voice being played back
at me, I probably annoyed them or something haha.
I did, I'm sorry! My eyes are a bit blurry in the mornings...lol.....no, we watched the meteor shower last week, it was great!! It's definately like a
flash from a typical camera going off every few seconds. I'm guessing the SATS taking pics??? The one arc I had seen last night, looked like a
gigantic tree branch when it lit up, but no sound, and it went across the sky, not downward.....again, I'm sorry I misread your title. I don't want to
take away from your thread, so maybe I'll make one of my own in a bit, if I can find some time...
You know. When you ionize air and induce a weak plasma there in. It functions like a non linear medium for EM propigation. (Now why would they
want to do that?)
The EM gets converted partialy to other forms of energy. One is phonons. That cloud of plasmaA, maybe ionoaphere, then can act as a giant
speaker. Making whatever god aweful sounds it does until the said EM beam hitting said effected area is dialed in to the frequency they want to
achieve the effect they want (probably not sound but some other military usage)
Ie sky noises. Largely military.
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I do not recognize the voices. I had the number on caller id, didn't recognize it. No way somebody, if they even had my number "butt dialed" me twice.
Something wanted me to hear that message....not trying to sound important, but that is good advice, right? Stay positive. Don't dwell on the negative,
IT feeds off your negative energy. As far as the comments on the paragraphs, not sure why it came out as a wall of text, I did break it up into
paragraphs in the original post, but was posted as a wall of text, oh well
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