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Poor and Uneven Sex Ed in US Schools

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posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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They should concentrate PRIMARILY on Abstention and FEAR because of what it's causing.
Abortions,fatherless kids, and large portion of POVERTY amongst minorities and the poor.




posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
They should concentrate PRIMARILY on Abstention and FEAR because of what it's causing.
Abortions,fatherless kids, and large portion of POVERTY amongst minorities and the poor.


Abstention and fear have not worked. It has not worked in Georgia nor anywhere else where that is what is taught.

Do you not read? That is what Georgia uses and they have the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: reldra

Final statement and I'll leave you alone.

it isn't the responsibility of the state. It is the responsibility of the parents.

Want to discuss what a piss-poor job parents are doing? Great!



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: reldra

Final statement and I'll leave you alone.

it isn't the responsibility of the state. It is the responsibility of the parents.

Want to discuss what a piss-poor job parents are doing? Great!


Well, if parents aren;t doing the job, the state must stop the money drain. With complete and clear information.

Most of you that have responded here will complain about teens having babies and welfare. The irony is ASTOUNDING.

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posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:53 PM
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a reply to: reldra

No, sorry. I've never needed to get an abortion.

There are other clinics that provide the same types of services to women, and I don't have to feel like I'm helping fund murder to use them.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: reldra

No, sorry. I've never needed to get an abortion.

There are other clinics that provide the same types of services to women, and I don't have to feel like I'm helping fund murder to use them.


I am happy for you. There are some poor people that do and when PP funding is removed, they can't travel to a clinic, in some states. I am glad you are then willing to pay for their food stamps, medicaid, WIC, rent, childcare...when they have that baby. And for a lot of them for years and years after. For the children they continue to have.
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posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: reldra


Abstinence-only sex education, also referred to as "abstinence only until marriage"[66] (A.O.U.M) is an approach to sex education which emphasizes abstinence from sex prior to marriage to the exclusion of all other types of sexual and reproductive health education, particularly regarding birth control and safe sex. Adolescents are encouraged to be sexually abstinent until marriage and are not provided with information about contraception.

A.O.U.M. is a federally-funded policy for sex education that was developed in the 1990s as a part of welfare reform, partially in reaction to the growth and development of adolescent sex and HIV education programs spanning the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.[49][67][68][69][70]

Through direct funding and matching grant incentives, the U.S. government steered more than 1.5 billion dollars to abstinence-only education programs between 1996 and 2010.[70]

In 1996, the federal government attached a provision to a welfare reform law establishing a program of special grants to states for abstinence-only-until-marriage programs. The program, Title V, § 510(b) of the Social Security Act (now codified as 42 U.S.C. § 710b), is commonly known as Title V. It created very specific requirements for grant recipients. Under this law, the term “abstinence education” means an educational or motivational program which:


So it looks like you are claiming the government programs are failures.

So, why would a change in government failures lead to successful programs?

The Sentral Kommittee theories are failures.

The whole problem is rooted in jobs (lack of) and jobless stagnation.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: reldra

Not really.

Parents are the biggest way to stop teens from doing what they shouldn't. I'll bet if you look at the numbers, you'll find that most teen mothers come from mothers who were also teen mothers. It's a cycle. Bad behavior begets bad behavior and it's hard to break that cycle.

You break that cycle with consistent and constant role-modeling of good behavior, the idea that there is a choice and alternative to the culture one was raised with.

A semester of hour-a-day courses teaching all the sex positions and how to put condoms on cucumbers won't do that.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The money to 'abstinence only' and 'abstinence mainly' have failed.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: reldra

Not really.

Parents are the biggest way to stop teens from doing what they shouldn't. I'll bet if you look at the numbers, you'll find that most teen mothers come from mothers who were also teen mothers. It's a cycle. Bad behavior begets bad behavior and it's hard to break that cycle.

You break that cycle with consistent and constant role-modeling of good behavior, the idea that there is a choice and alternative to the culture one was raised with.

A semester of hour-a-day courses teaching all the sex positions and how to put condoms on cucumbers won't do that.


I believe it will help. States that teach abstinence only have the highest teen pregnancy rates.

States that teach a comprehensive Sex Ed Course, including abstinence, have the lowest. The statistics are readily available.
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posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: reldra

And how many of those teen pregnancies come from teen mothers and single mothers? That information is important. Without it, you are trying to draw a causation that may not exist.

It is similar to knowing that a child of divorce is far more likely to grow up and get divorced in his or her turn than the child of a stable family.

A family's culture and influence is far more important than the school which is part of why so many schools are failing - because there is a large segment of society that no longer values education.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I stated TEEN PREGNANCIES. That is the statistic at hand.
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posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: reldra

I read ,I also know the south is INFESTED with crappy parents who do nothing to stop it.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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I hate to say this but if we actually do have male college students at our most prestigious colleges chanting
"No means yes, yes means anal!"....
I'm sorry but it seems that they didn't learn all they needed to learn on their own!

Heck, I'd go as far as to say that men who think like that play a good part in unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
but, aren't schools supposed to prepare the kids for adulthood? Isn't that supposed to be the main goal of those 12 years? well, even if you believe that people should wait till they are married to have sex, they will still need to know some basic information for after they get married. ya know, what a std is and how can it be prevented, how to prevent an unwanted pregnancy... and....lol... what the word NO means! and, if the parent's haven't taught their kids by the time they are married, and it seems that some just might be neglecting to do this. well, the if I had a daughter I certainly wouldn't want them learning from any of those frat boys chanting "No means yes, Yes means anal"! on their wedding night!

and, it's shocking to think that the gov't is spending $75 million dollars to tell kids basically just what some parents are telling them.... just don't do it till you are married..... when you're out of our house and not our responsibility anymore!



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 07:21 PM
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I also know the south is INFESTED with crappy parents who do nothing to stop it.


do you seriously mean this?? I have to ask, since it seems that you are saying that there are many more crappy parents in the south than those other places that don't have as high teen pregnancy rates and have good sex education programs in their schools. which, if this is what you are saying, I have to say... kind of blows my mind since it seems that these same places that don't have sex education are also the one deep in the bible belt and very supportive of the idea of home schooling and want the government out of the kid's education. it's like saying that all of the kids's education should be at the mercy of the crappy parents!



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

Its called PROJECTION and YOU just did it:
I'M from the south,Arkansas born.
I know, JUST LIKE you.
there are many more crappy parents in the south than those other places that don't have as high teen pregnancy rates and have good sex education programs in their schools. which, if this is what you are saying, I have to say... kind of blows"


" INFESTED" there are NUMEROUS examples, at NO time is INFESTED relegated to compare it to a DAMN THING.
YOU think I can't see how screwed these DAMN Yankees are?
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posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

I don't think I am projecting anything here. you seem to implying that the statistical difference between pregnancy and sex education (abstinance only / more comprehensive) is due more because of the quality of parenting being poorer in the those areas.
I don't believe there is a big difference when it comes to parenting between them... and to be honest, I'm a born and raised yankee that has lived in both the southern states and the northern. I think it's kind of the opposite. and in case I am right in thinking that you are thinking that single parents make crappy parents, I think that is a wrong assumption also.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
When my daughter was in grade school, I picked her up and brought her to my house. She was doing her home work and came in my room crying because she couldn't figure out her homework, which was "Estimating". Being I have done construction and actually grew up when the schools system actually taught kids important things like math and how to estimate, I for the life of me could NOT figure out what in the hell these idiots were trying to teach her. So I went on the internet and looked up Common Core Estimating......


Actually, Common Core math is teaching the preferred way to do math. It's all about rounding to 5's and 0's. I think there's some issues with teaching it, but it's a very good system. It's also how the rest of the world teaches math, and how the US taught it prior to the late 60's.



Sorry, but Sex Ed is something our school system has taken way too far and have spent way to GD much money on! All they need to know is how to have safe sex and what causes little babies to come out. No need to toss more money at nothing more than more dumbing down and influencing behaviors that would not have even been thought of in the first place!


You just mentioned the whole controversy. There's debate over what constitutes safe sex. Some states take the approach that there's no such thing, and only abstinence should be taught.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: reldra

Pregnancy, teen or otherwise used to be a matter of individual responsibility and liability.

Used to be, it wasn't the business of the state.

Funny little socialist world we're turning into.


If it's a matter of individualism, then the individual should be free to kill the child they can't or don't want to care for, right? If they shouldn't be able to, then you recognize that people are a burden of the state, in which case it's the states business.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Not really.

Parents are the biggest way to stop teens from doing what they shouldn't. I'll bet if you look at the numbers, you'll find that most teen mothers come from mothers who were also teen mothers. It's a cycle. Bad behavior begets bad behavior and it's hard to break that cycle.

You break that cycle with consistent and constant role-modeling of good behavior, the idea that there is a choice and alternative to the culture one was raised with.

A semester of hour-a-day courses teaching all the sex positions and how to put condoms on cucumbers won't do that.


Teens have sex. Whether or not they're using contraceptives, some of them are going to become parents. It has nothing to do with what age their parents were.




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