Donald J. Trump Visiting African-American Communites To Offer A Better Way Forward!

a reply to: UKTruth

Trump is polling close to Hillary because she's damn near as bad a candidate. This isn't Brexit dude. Why the comparison? That was rhetorical. Extremists aren't that hard to peg.

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Blazemore2000
a reply to: carewemust


2. You're delusional if you think Trump's actions are ever more than self-serving pandering.

No republican has ever went near this far......going after traditional Dem demographics on this scale.

Baloney. Mitt Romney actually had the balls to go speak at the NAACP convention. What "scale" do you think Trump is operating on? A few speeches in a couple of weeks to all white crowds that many observers say are actually aimed at uneasy white voters rather than blacks.

And do you think anything Trump is doing compares to George W. Bush's outreach to Hispanics?

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: UKTruth

Trump is polling close to Hillary because she's damn near as bad a candidate. This isn't Brexit dude. Why the comparison? That was rhetorical. Extremists aren't that hard to peg.

There are a number of parallels in my view.
There are no good Democrat candidates because the party is bereft of sustainable policies.
I suspect this year is too early, but I believe change is coming.

No idea what you extremist point was about, sorry.

originally posted by: UKTruth
The fact Trump can be polling close to Hillary and even close in states that have been Democrat for 20 years should tell you something.

What states that have voted Democratic for 20 years is Trump close in? Pennsylvania? Michigan? Maine?


It's Clinton who is threatening in red states like South Carolina, Georgia and Arizona.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: burgerbuddy

BS. All week I've been hearing Repubs say Democrats are responsible for what's going on in urban communities. I haven't heard a single one of those Repubs say "Oh, but we actually control both the legislative branches and executive branches in most States. So maybe our laws and policies have something to do with it, too."

Or are you implying that Repubs are simply so incompetent at ruling States that they shouldn't be held responsible for the crime in the States and districts they control?

lol, so the dems on the ground like city councils and mayors, sheriffs and other elected officials that actually run the day to day operations of the CITY have nothing to do with what is going on?

Seems like YOU are implying the elected Dems that have been in charge for 1000's of years are just tools for the repubs that run the whole state.

lol, tools.

originally posted by: DelMarvel
Trump refused invitations to speak to major black organizations like the NAACP, the National Urban League, the National Association of Black Journalists, etc. when he was campaigning as a nativist in the primaries.

Now at the eleventh hour it's finally dawned on him and his incompetent campaign why he's losing and he's desperately and cynically trying to pander to minority voters and fudge his stance on immigration.

Pretty funny, actually.

Pretty funny that people want Trump to play "pandering identity politics", you mean.

Trump has had many minorities at his rallies, unfortunately, they mostly were outside attacking people and burning flags and cop cars.


Hell, he was branded a racist from day 1. I wouldn't go either.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: burgerbuddy

BS. All week I've been hearing Repubs say Democrats are responsible for what's going on in urban communities. I haven't heard a single one of those Repubs say "Oh, but we actually control both the legislative branches and executive branches in most States. So maybe our laws and policies have something to do with it, too."

Or are you implying that Repubs are simply so incompetent at ruling States that they shouldn't be held responsible for the crime in the States and districts they control?

You do understand the difference between a state and city, right?

Obviously I understand the difference between a city and a State.

Most of the issues that are affecting the black community are at the city level and in most of these major cities Democrats are usually are the helm.

1. You do realize that State laws override local laws, right? And Governors are far more powerful than mayors. So either the Repubs at the State level are incompetent & don't know they wield power over local governments, or they're also responsible for the things going on in their states.

2. There are Hispanic & African American communities in virtually every single city in America, including in Republican controlled ones. So going by your logic, that means that Repubs are directly responsible for any issues affecting those minority communities, right?

Oh yeah?

I'll give you 1 word, "Sanctuary Cities"

These areas defy Federal Laws.

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: burgerbuddy

BS. All week I've been hearing Repubs say Democrats are responsible for what's going on in urban communities. I haven't heard a single one of those Repubs say "Oh, but we actually control both the legislative branches and executive branches in most States. So maybe our laws and policies have something to do with it, too."

Or are you implying that Repubs are simply so incompetent at ruling States that they shouldn't be held responsible for the crime in the States and districts they control?

lol, so the dems on the ground like city councils and mayors, sheriffs and other elected officials that actually run the day to day operations of the CITY have nothing to do with what is going on?

Seems like YOU are implying the elected Dems that have been in charge for 1000's of years are just tools for the repubs that run the whole state.

lol, tools.

Look, it was only a couple of generations ago that the mass migration of blacks to the north from mostly rural southern areas ended. These people had limited skills, were discriminated against in all sorts of obvious ways and less obvious ways like restricted access to mortgages and education and other institutional biases; the white middle class fled to the suburbs years ago (even much of the black middle class) and the manufacturing and business tax base left as well. The actual jurisdiction of the cities were left holding the short end of the stick for major urban centers all over the U.S. You can't heap all the blame for what happened on the democrats who wound up in charge and the Republican as well as the Democratic leadership at the state and federal level share a lot of responsibility.

double post.

originally posted by: xpert11
a reply to: TheRedneck

To be honest a lot will depend on how much the locals want to improve the lives of their kids who will form the nucleus of the next generation. As other's of noted Trump will need a actual message to attract new voters into the GOP fold. I remain convinced that if Trump had been a serious presidential candidate he would have carried a effective message to the Dems traditional starting back in May , before Clinton had shored up her party's nomination.

Hello?

She had it rigged for her since 2008. No one was gonna be the nom except her, discounting an act of God involving a bolt of lightning.

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: UKTruth
The fact Trump can be polling close to Hillary and even close in states that have been Democrat for 20 years should tell you something.

What states that have voted Democratic for 20 years is Trump close in? Pennsylvania? Michigan? Maine?


It's Clinton who is threatening in red states like South Carolina, Georgia and Arizona.

Pennsylvania and Michigan. Latest poll is Pennsylvania + 3 Clinton and Michigan +5 Clinton. PA is only +2 in the 4 way.

Your links are averages of polls on RCP - including polls from 3-4 weeks ago.

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Blazemore2000
a reply to: carewemust


2. You're delusional if you think Trump's actions are ever more than self-serving pandering.

No republican has ever went near this far......going after traditional Dem demographics on this scale.

Baloney. Mitt Romney actually had the balls to go speak at the NAACP convention. What "scale" do you think Trump is operating on? A few speeches in a couple of weeks to all white crowds that many observers say are actually aimed at uneasy white voters rather than blacks.

And do you think anything Trump is doing compares to George W. Bush's outreach to Hispanics?

You're kidding, right? The same Romney who spoke at the NAACP convention, then behind closed doors where he thought he wasn't heard said they're part of the 47% who would vote Dem anyway. Trump won't have a Romney moment.

a reply to: DJW001

I don't either BUT we mean the dirty deals not the line dogs.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: DJW001

I don't either BUT we mean the dirty deals not the line dogs.

Gotta go with.... what?

Not All Blacks Are African American: It is Important to View Individuals in a Culturally Mosaic Context
While it is important to treat each as an individual, regardless of race or national origin, it is also important to understand the cultural context and background .
It is essential not to make implicit stereotyped assumptions that are misleading.
Often in the United States there may be an automatic assumption that dark-skinned individuals are African Americans.

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: burgerbuddy

BS. All week I've been hearing Repubs say Democrats are responsible for what's going on in urban communities. I haven't heard a single one of those Repubs say "Oh, but we actually control both the legislative branches and executive branches in most States. So maybe our laws and policies have something to do with it, too."

Or are you implying that Repubs are simply so incompetent at ruling States that they shouldn't be held responsible for the crime in the States and districts they control?

lol, so the dems on the ground like city councils and mayors, sheriffs and other elected officials that actually run the day to day operations of the CITY have nothing to do with what is going on?

Seems like YOU are implying the elected Dems that have been in charge for 1000's of years are just tools for the repubs that run the whole state.

lol, tools.

Look, it was only a couple of generations ago that the mass migration of blacks to the north from mostly rural southern areas ended. These people had limited skills, were discriminated against in all sorts of obvious ways and less obvious ways like restricted access to mortgages and education and other institutional biases; the white middle class fled to the suburbs years ago (even much of the black middle class) and the manufacturing and business tax base left as well. The actual jurisdiction of the cities were left holding the short end of the stick for major urban centers all over the U.S. You can't heap all the blame for what happened on the democrats who wound up in charge and the Republican as well as the Democratic leadership at the state and federal level share a lot of responsibility.

You are ignoring the problems on the ground.

The problems have crossed over into ideology rather than economics and race.

Poor dems, left holding the #end of the stick. lol. Right!

a reply to: burgerbuddy
All election results have to be is "believable."
The people inclined to abuse their wealth and power do what they always have done throughout history.
They TAKE the most, give the least, and don't give a damn about the rest of humanity.

originally posted by: madenusa
Not All Blacks Are African American: It is Important to View Individuals in a Culturally Mosaic Context
While it is important to treat each as an individual, regardless of race or national origin, it is also important to understand the cultural context and background .
It is essential not to make implicit stereotyped assumptions that are misleading.
Often in the United States there may be an automatic assumption that dark-skinned individuals are African Americans.

So he came out of the high rise and like all the powerful wealthy ..lets stereo type African American community and make promises they never keep..
I see whites, blacks all the race in the same community the rich don't get out until election time...

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Logarock

The Dem voters made a mistake, from their perspective. They stayed away in 2010. That isn't going to be the case this year. They know what's on the line too.

Dream on.
The Dem voters aren't even showing up for Hillary rallies....

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Logarock

The Dem voters made a mistake, from their perspective. They stayed away in 2010. That isn't going to be the case this year. They know what's on the line too.

Dream on.
The Dem voters aren't even showing up for Hillary rallies....

Talk to you on Nov 9th. That'll be about the time that Trump supporters start calling him a RINO.