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originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
What I am confused by, is that you stated in 2013, you agreed to be tested for personality disorders. So if this is the case, then YES you have been tested for PD's. Even if you went in for a normal DSM-5 assessment, you've been assessed for potential of personality disorders.
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
I too would love to know why the concern, but that of course is 100% your decision and life.
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
I too would love to know why the concern, but that of course is 100% your decision and life.
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
I too would love to know why the concern, but that of course is 100% your decision and life.
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
I too would love to know why the concern, but that of course is 100% your decision and life.
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
fair enough on that....but yeah I don't think you have a case of ethics on this. Now OF COURSE I am not a lawyer or judge so please don't take my opinion on that...but from working with APA and ACA, assessment is assessment as far as personality or mental disorders go. Now more specific testing for PD's such as the MMPI, the 16 personality factor (16-PF), California Psychological Inventory (CPI), or Thematic Apperception Test (TAT) would be more pointed to PD's...but again, just going into an assessment or test battery alone means they will check for all types of disorders.
It goes back to when the DSM-4 Axis scale was still in use. In that cases there were 5 Axes
Axis 1: Principal disorder. This is that overwhelming majority of disorders such as mental health, cognitive, psychotic and anxiety disorders.
Axis 2: Personality disorders and developmental disorders
Axis 3: Medical concerns
Axis 4: Stressors (such as recent divorce, domestic issues, etc)
Axis 5: Global Assessment of Functioning - a number between 1 - 100 to determine how well you are functioning
Granted we don't live in the DSM 4 anymore....but this is interesting in your timeline.
In 2013, you would have been assessed with DSM 4, meaning you would have had a 5 axis scale INCLUDING suspected or met personality disorders.
If you look at your axes from 2013, look at Axis 2. If it says V71.09 then it means they found nothing of value. If it says 799.9, it means they deferred diagnosing anything of a personality disorder
Now, in July 2016, it will look radically different and all of your codes including Axis 1, Axis 2, Axis 4, AND any V or Z codes, will all be in one area. Meaning, if you do not see a code for a personality disorder with the cluster of other disorders, they did not diagnose you with one.
To help a bit, here are the potential codes to look for to indicate a personality disorder on the 2016 records
F60.2 - Antisocial
F60.6 - Avoidant
F60.3 - Borderline
F60.7 - Dependant
F60.4 - Histrionic
F60.81 - Narcissistic
F60.5 - Obsessive Compulsive (PD...not OCD)
F60.0 - Paranoid
F60.1 Schizoid
F21 - Schizotypal
F60.9 - Unspecific PD (meaning they think something MAY be there...but just not sure if it exists or not)
F60.89 - Specific PD (meaning the are SURE something is there, but it does not fit perfectly into the specific models)
I'll keep looking back for more responses
hope this all helps
*my name redacted* 070113 ie 90792 *my birthdate redacted*. *my phone number redacted* rc
*my home address redacted*
ID: 24 y/o male, *private information redacted*
CC: Needing to know if I need ADHD medication.
HPI: *private information redacted*
Soc Hx: *private information redacted*
PPH: No hospital. No Sa.
Med Hx: Asthma
Subs Hx: Denies
Soc Hx: *private information redacted*
MSE: Feeling OK.
Dx: ADHD, NOS
P: Adderall 5mg 1 to 4 bid, #100.
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
I too would love to know why the concern, but that of course is 100% your decision and life.
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
There were no questions raised regarding his reality testing, no hallucinations reported, and no delusions noted either, failing to support a psychosis hypothesis (including all Schizophrenic disorders).
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
So I am working on reading the story
Apologies if I am taking a while on that
What I am reading from the report is that all they necessarily saw was ADHD NOS, meaning they found some level of attention disorder but could not entirely qualify it as full ADHD. Typically we do this in the beginning in order to not saddle up a client with a boatload of diagnoses. Plus it offers us time to personalize and describe what is happening over time
I think the lack of psychotic symptoms is of course a good thing. It's pretty typical for us to ensure other disorders, including psychotic disorders, are not in play
originally posted by: KyoZero
a reply to: Quasiscientist
fair enough on that....but yeah I don't think you have a case of ethics on this. Now OF COURSE I am not a lawyer or judge so please don't take my opinion on that...but from working with APA and ACA, assessment is assessment as far as personality or mental disorders go. Now more specific testing for PD's such as the MMPI, the 16 personality factor (16-PF), California Psychological Inventory (CPI), or Thematic Apperception Test (TAT) would be more pointed to PD's...but again, just going into an assessment or test battery alone means they will check for all types of disorders.
It goes back to when the DSM-4 Axis scale was still in use. In that cases there were 5 Axes
Axis 1: Principal disorder. This is that overwhelming majority of disorders such as mental health, cognitive, psychotic and anxiety disorders.
Axis 2: Personality disorders and developmental disorders
Axis 3: Medical concerns
Axis 4: Stressors (such as recent divorce, domestic issues, etc)
Axis 5: Global Assessment of Functioning - a number between 1 - 100 to determine how well you are functioning
Granted we don't live in the DSM 4 anymore....but this is interesting in your timeline.
In 2013, you would have been assessed with DSM 4, meaning you would have had a 5 axis scale INCLUDING suspected or met personality disorders.
If you look at your axes from 2013, look at Axis 2. If it says V71.09 then it means they found nothing of value. If it says 799.9, it means they deferred diagnosing anything of a personality disorder
Now, in July 2016, it will look radically different and all of your codes including Axis 1, Axis 2, Axis 4, AND any V or Z codes, will all be in one area. Meaning, if you do not see a code for a personality disorder with the cluster of other disorders, they did not diagnose you with one.
To help a bit, here are the potential codes to look for to indicate a personality disorder on the 2016 records
F60.2 - Antisocial
F60.6 - Avoidant
F60.3 - Borderline
F60.7 - Dependant
F60.4 - Histrionic
F60.81 - Narcissistic
F60.5 - Obsessive Compulsive (PD...not OCD)
F60.0 - Paranoid
F60.1 Schizoid
F21 - Schizotypal
F60.9 - Unspecific PD (meaning they think something MAY be there...but just not sure if it exists or not)
F60.89 - Specific PD (meaning the are SURE something is there, but it does not fit perfectly into the specific models)
I'll keep looking back for more responses
hope this all helps
DIAGNOSTIC IMPRESSION:
Axis I: (300.23) GENERALIZED SOCIAL PHOBIA (primary encounter diagnosis)
DEPRESSION UNSPECIFIED
RO ADHD INATTENTIVE
RO AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER
Axis II: deferred
Axis III:
Axis IV: problems with primary support group
problems related to the social environment
occupational problems
other psychosocial and environmental problems
Axis V: Current GAF: 51-41: Serious symptoms (e.g. suicidal ideation, severe obsessional rituals) OR
Serious impairment in social, occupational, or school functioning. - Highest GAF in the last 12 months: 51
originally posted by: andy06shake
I just gave permission for my little girl to be tested here in the UK because she was misbehaving in class and apparently she may be autistic because she blinks to much and when asked to play with dolls she did not do so in the prescribed manner.
Not received the full 7 page report yet as it apparently needs to be amended but suffice to say i will be seeking a second opinion!