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Let's Vet the Claims of HIllary's Record in this video...

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posted on Aug, 26 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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Having been of voting age during the Clinton era, I had forgotten the numerous scandals that unfolded during that time.

I was busy living life, and didn't spend too much time trying to figure out what our elected were doing in DC... so the mess we are faced with today is partly my fault for taking for granted that our Federal government would be the watchdog over the founding concepts of this "great experiment"...

This video is staunchly anti Hillary, I know that, but it is presented in a way that should spur folks here on ATS to dig for the facts, verify the claims...

Please take the 30 minutes to view this in it's entirety.. then let's try to root through the claims, and come to a consensus of what is correct, and what is spin...

Can we pick this apart, can we confirm any of the claims... can we have a discussion? this is ATS, I think we can work through this...





posted on Aug, 26 2016 @ 11:19 PM
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I saw this in a thread recently, and thought it should be a entire thread. But I rarely post stuff that isn't my own work much anymore.

I remembered sound bites of a lot of that stuff, from when I was a kid who had the news on "too often".

The pardons they cover are entirely damning if true.
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posted on Aug, 26 2016 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

It's a wormhole for sure, but please take the time to view the entire clip... then come back with your thoughts on what was presented, having watched it, I have to say that I find it very hard to believe that the voters in this country would even consider her for the highest office, so logically I think some of it is over the top...

I just hope we here on ATS can work through this particular video, and confirm or deny what is presented...

It's worth a try, I am so tired of the mudfight, I'd rather hear positions, and make my own mind up, instead of spewing rhetoric..

That gets old quick, and we all suffer for it....



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posted on Aug, 26 2016 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: JacKatMtn

I'll dig into the presidential pardons, a recent topic of mine sort of (Obama 'already pardoned Hillary').

Perhaps if the source of the video has a nice outline or something (we could make a check list out of).

It should have a proper production title?


EDIT:
I found the original version of the piece and it's titled Hillary Clinton: A Career Criminal.
Here's a page with the transcript:
lybio.net...
Our version herein has some added news type stock footage added on at the end.
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posted on Aug, 26 2016 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

pardongate starts about 7:57 in the video...



posted on Aug, 26 2016 @ 11:42 PM
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Ah yes, the "gates". Back then is when I first noted our cultures obsessive tendency of adding the word GATE to any and all scandals.

EDIT:

Okay, so wikipedia has a page on "Pardongate". (many of the core talking points in the video probably do...)

Bill Clinton pardon controversy
President Bill Clinton was criticized for some of his pardons and acts of executive clemency.[1] Pardoning or commuting sentences is a power granted by the U.S. Constitution to all sitting United States Presidents.

While most presidents grant pardons throughout their terms, Clinton chose to make nearly a third of them on January 20, 2001, his last day in office. This came to be known as Pardongate.[2] While Clinton pardoned a large number (450)[3] of people compared with his immediate predecessor Republican George H. W. Bush, who only pardoned 75, the number of people pardoned by Clinton was comparable to Republican Ronald Reagan and Democrat Jimmy Carter, who pardoned 406 and 566 respectively.[4]

Federal prosecutor Mary Jo White was appointed to investigate the pardon of Marc Rich. She was later replaced by then-Republican James Comey, who found no illegality on Clinton's part.


Wasn't that the same James Comey who recently "pardoned" Hillary for the email thingie? Yep!
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posted on Aug, 26 2016 @ 11:56 PM
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Pardongate, continued (all wikipedia citations from each persons respective page):

Marc Rich

Marc Rich (born Marcell David Reich; December 18, 1934 – June 26, 2013) was an international commodities trader, hedge fund manager, financier and businessman.[1] He was best known for founding the commodities company Glencore and for being indicted in the United States on federal charges of tax evasion and illegally making oil deals with Iran during the Iran hostage crisis. He was in Switzerland at the time of the indictment and never returned to the United States.[2] He received a controversial presidential pardon from U.S. President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, Clinton's last day in office.[3]


Edwin Cortes

Edwin Cortes was a Puerto Rican nationalist[1] and member of the FALN who received a sentence of 35 years[2] for seditious conspiracy and other charges. He was sentenced on February 18, 1981, and incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison. However, he was released early from prison, after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer to him on September 7, 1999.[3]


Elizam Escobar

During his years as a student, he became actively involved in the Puerto Rican independence movement. He became a member of the underground group called Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional (FALN). After he earned his bachelor's degree in Visual Arts, he moved to New York City. In New York he attended the City College of New York. Escobar also taught art at the Museo del Barrio's School of the Arts from 1979 to 1980.[1]

On 4 April 1980, Escobar was among eleven FALN members arrested by the FBI in Evanston, Illinois, under the suspicion of plotting to bomb Federal installations. They were charged with seditious conspiracy and related charges. During and after the trial he maintained his position that he and the others were prisoners of war. Escobar was sentenced to a prison term of 68 years which was to be served in the federal prison of El Reno, Oklahoma.[2] On 7 September 1999, Escobar and the ten other prisoners who were arrested with him were granted clemency by President Bill Clinton. Escobar returned to Puerto Rico immediately upon his release.[2]


Ricardo Jiménez

Ricardo Jiménez Puerto Rican member of the FALN (a Stalinist terrorist group which fought to transform Puerto Rico into a communist state during the 1970s) who received a sentence of 90 years for seditious conspiracy and other charges. He was sentenced on February 18, 1981, and incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison. However, he was released early from prison, after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer to him on September 7, 1999.[1]


Adolfo Matos

Adolfo Matos Puerto Rican member of the FALN (a Stalinist terrorist group which fought to transform Puerto Rico into a communist state during the 1970s) who received a sentence of 70 years for seditious conspiracy and other charges.[1] He was sentenced on February 18, 1981, and incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison. However, he was released early from prison, after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer to him on September 7, 1999.[2]


Dylcia Noemi Pagan

Dylcia Noemi Pagan Puerto Rican member of the FALN (a Stalinist terrorist group which fought to transform Puerto Rico into a communist state during the 1970s) who received a sentence of 55 years for seditious conspiracy and other charges. She was sentenced on February 18, 1981, and incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison. However, she was released early from prison, after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer to her on September 7, 1999.[1]


Alicia Rodríguez (FALN)

Alicia Rodríguez Puerto Rican member of the FALN who received a sentence of 55 years for seditious conspiracy and other charges. She was sentenced on February 18, 1981, and incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison. However, she was released early from prison, after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer to her on September 7, 1999.[1]


Ida Luz Rodríguez

Ida Luz Rodriguez Puerto Rican member of the FALN who received a sentence of 75 years for seditious conspiracy and other charges. She was sentenced on February 18, 1981, and incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison. However, she was released early from prison, after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer to her on September 7, 1999.[1]


Luis Rosa

Luis Rosa is a Puerto Rican nationalist[1][2][3] and member of the FALN who received a sentence of 75 years for seditious conspiracy and related charges.[4] He was sentenced on 18 February 1981 and subsequently incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison. He was released early from prison after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer to him on 7 September 1999.[5]


Carmen Valentín Pérez

Carmen Hilda Valentín Pérez Puerto Rican member of the FALN (a Marxist group which fought to transform Puerto Rico into a communist state during the 1970s) who received a sentence of 90 years for seditious conspiracy and other charges. She was sentenced on February 18, 1981, and incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison. However, she was released early from prison, after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer to her on September 7, 1999.[1]


Alberto Rodriguez (FALN)

Alberto Rodriguez was a Puerto Rican member of the FALN who received a sentence of 35 years for seditious conspiracy and other charges. He was sentenced in 1985, and incarcerated first at United States Penitentiary in Lewisburg (USP Lewisberg), PA, and later at the federal penitentiary at USP Beaumont, TX. However, he was released early from prison, after President Bill Clinton extended a clemency offer in August 0f 1999. Alberto and 10 other Puerto Rican prisoners were released on September 10, 1999.[1]


Alejandrina Torres

Alejandrina Torres (born June 18, 1939) is a Puerto Rican, who was a member of the FALN who was convicted and sentenced to 35 years for seditious conspiracy.[1] Torres was linked to the Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional (FALN), which claimed responsibility for 100 bombings and six deaths. Her sentence was commuted by President Bill Clinton in 1999.[2]


That's just from the initial list of people in the origin wikipedia page up up.

From the looks of it, this "FALN" communist conspiracy group ought to be an entire thread. Somebody wants to make it, feel free to copy-paste my work so far.



posted on Aug, 27 2016 @ 12:00 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I never knew the connection of the FALN pardons to the Hillary Senate run in 2000... do those dots connect? Is there confirmation to that claim?...

I would dive into it but I need to get some rest, recharge my batteries... Thanks for digging in, I will bring my shovel tomorrow



posted on Aug, 27 2016 @ 12:02 AM
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Pardongate, continued:

en.wikipedia.org...

Mel Reynolds, a Democratic Congressman from Illinois, was convicted of bank fraud, 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography. His sentence was commuted on the bank fraud charge and he was allowed to serve the final months under the auspices of a halfway house. Reynolds had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions.


Mel Reynolds

On February 18, 2014, Reynolds was arrested in Zimbabwe for overstaying his visa. He was allegedly found to be in possession of pornographic videos he had filmed with several women at the hotel where he was staying. Possession of pornography is a crime in the country. He had also purportedly accrued over $24,000 in hotel charges that he had yet to pay.[5] The pornography charges were later dropped, but he pleaded guilty to violating immigration laws, and was deported to South Africa. He claimed in early March 2014 to be hiding there from Zimbabwean death squads, who he claimed were targeting him because he possessed information about American companies from Chicago doing business illegally in Zimbabwe.

On June 26, 2015 it was announced that Reynolds had been indicted by a grand jury for failure to file federal income tax returns for the 2009 through 2012 tax years.[6] If convicted, Reynolds could be subject up to a maximum of one year in prison and a $250,000 fine on each of the four counts.[7]

In July 2015, Reynolds missed his arraignment. His lawyers said he could not return to the US because of a problem with a daughter's health. It was not clear where Reynolds was, although he had previously hid in South Africa out of fear for his life. [8]
Later career

In January 2001, Reynolds was hired by Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/Push Coalition to decrease the number of young African-Americans going to prison.[9]


I think a full assessment of the Pardongate might ought to include seeing what these people have done since.

Mel Reynolds now says he's innocent, won't plead guilty
May 17, 2016
For a guy who claims jail restrictions have kept him from preparing for his upcoming trial, former U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds sure has found plenty of time to write letters.

In the four weeks Reynolds has been locked up at the Kankakee County Jail for bail violations, he's written to U.S. District Judge John Darrah at least four times, complaining about everything from his health to gang members who may be targeting him for a long-ago political slight.

He's alleged he was put in protective custody by federal authorities, a move that has kept him from accessing the jail's law library to prepare his defense against misdemeanor tax charges. Last week, he even said he intended to plead guilty because of his dire situation.

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posted on Aug, 27 2016 @ 12:03 AM
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I never even heard of them before. A serious rabbit hole just this Pardongate thing is looking like. Where it should have its own thread, as well as the FALN portion of it should. What a mess LOL

From the looks of my initial scratch & sniff, we can probably scratch any major doubts about the Pardongate stuff off the checklist...

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posted on Aug, 27 2016 @ 12:15 AM
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I'm old, I remember all of these. I have to wonder how anyone could support or vote for this vile witch. She kind of reminds me of an older Karla homolka, the woman who pulled the serial killer, Paul Bernardo's, strings. It's sad people's memories are not longer and that the MSM does all they can to make you forget.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Aug, 27 2016 @ 12:18 AM
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Marc Rich:


Comey declined to elaborate on other cases, but among the most publicized pardons was the one Clinton gave to fugitive commodities trader Marc Rich. Rich's ex-wife, Denise, was a major donor to the Democratic National Committee, Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Clinton library foundation.


source

Link between Rich and Gulen discussed in another forum:


We have found Marc Rich in the Turkey Wikileaks emails, having ties to Clinton, Gülen, his institutes in America, and his followers. This short article gives us a lot of connected names and we also got a new institute to search for - but we all know what it really is about, from its name: "The Marc Rich Foundation for Education, Culture and Welfare " in Luzern. If one of the Swiss could look into this, and Marc Rich (moved to Switzerland after Bill Clinton pardoned him), it would be a huge help. I am certain this Rich guy had a lot of dirt on him, and had very close ties with the foundation.
www.jonathanpollard.org...

If you do not know by now, Gülen was the leader of the recent coup attempt.
He is an Islamist (much more "extremist" than Erdogan himself) who fled to America, and the Clintons and all the other usual suspects are very friendly to him. He has several institutes and schools all across the USA and gets a lot of money injected into these straight from American officials connected to the government.

Out of all the institutes Gülen has recently sent money to as "charity", it was the Clinton Foundation who received the biggest amount.

GUESS WHO ALSO PARDONED THIS GUY? YERR RIGHT, IT WAS COMEY. AGAIN.
From the Comey And The Clintons section:
>Comey declined to elaborate on other cases, but among the most publicized pardons was the one Clinton gave to fugitive commodities trader Marc Rich. Rich's ex-wife, Denise, was a major donor to the Democratic National Committee, Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Clinton library foundation.
archive.is...


AR-15.com



posted on Aug, 27 2016 @ 01:12 AM
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TALKING POINT CATEGORIES LIST:
Travelgate
Hillary Care
Whitewater
Cattlegate
Filegate
Chinagate
Clinton's 90's IRS Scandal
Pardongate
FALN Terrorist Group
Hillary Clinton Senate Candidate Campaign Finance Scandal
'Developergate'
Hillary Staff Hiring Rules Violations
2008 Presidential Campaign Finance Abuses
Hillary's Sate Department Scandals
Benghazi Terrorist Attack Coverup
Clinton Secrets
Clinton Foundation

This isn't even an outline of all the data the film cites.


Get your GoogleFu and Copy/Paste hotkeys crunching, folks, and lets stoke this thread with data!



State Department spokeswoman can't name Hillary Clinton's diplomatic achievements
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posted on Aug, 27 2016 @ 01:21 AM
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My impression from this little project so far, it sounds like instead of naming it the Clinton Foundation they should have named it the Billary GATES Foundation (just from the history that preceded it alone).


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posted on Aug, 27 2016 @ 06:47 AM
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Wow that pardongate is insane. Bill pardons tons of drug traffickers and terrorists right before his end as president, Hillary becomes senator of New York in Jan 2001, then 9 months later Sept 11th happens😬.



posted on Aug, 28 2016 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: amicktd
Hillary becomes senator of New York in Jan 2001, then 9 months later Sept 11th happens😬.


This is certainly worth inspecting with a magnascope.


Congressional search yields on Filegate, Travelgate, Whitewater...


www.congress.gov...

www.congress.gov...

NYTimes on Travelgate -
www.nytimes.com...




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