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What's up with our Solar System

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posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 07:42 AM
I did a search to see if this had been brought up but couldn't find anything. Let me know if I missed it.

This is something I saw a little while back that had me intrigued. It's an orrery of all the exoplanets as seen by Keppler. All the details are at the link.

As you can see our solar system stands out like a sore thumb. So let's hear the theories on why ours seems to be so different to all the others in the neighbourhood. If it all gets too weird I'm happy for the mods to move it somewhere else.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 07:53 AM
a reply to: TheAiIsLying

Somebody if going to ask for more detail in your post.

Fascinating. My only thought is because this system has a special purpose.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 07:57 AM
a reply to: incoserv

Jeez that was quick!

I can't really put more detail into it because it kinda speaks for itself. I just saw it and went "Wow". To see such order in amongst so much chaos kinda begs for questions.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 07:58 AM
I read the article that you linked and this is what they have to say.

The fact that the worlds and systems we've observed are so different from our own is a limitation of our observations, not of the universe.

It also goes on to say this.

The orbits are shown to scale, but the planets are much larger than the orbits would suggest. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to see them.

And then this.

Of course the solar systems aren't this close tog—look, sshhhh, just watch it, it's pretty.

It certainly is pretty, thanks for sharing.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:07 AM
Our technology isn't that good yet to see similarities, if there are similarities.

Just because we haven't reached the point where we can see with such resolution does not mean similar systems do not exist.

We are only special in our own minds. We are also a very small speck of existence in such a vast universe. We definitely do not know what is out there yet to be discovered and to make the call that our solar system is unique is childlike and premature.

Thing is we may never know enough to make that call because once we scale one mountain there will be another mountain in the distance yet to be explored.
edit on 21-8-2016 by Terminal1 because: Clarity

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:11 AM
IDIC - Infinite Diversity, in Infinite Combinations.

Our solar system doesn't "stick out" like a sore thumb. It's a unique system among many, many unique systems that we have discovered.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:24 AM
These planets are discovered by wobbles, and fluctuations in light, if a planet were to orbit its star once every 20 of our years, it would be pretty damned hard to spot.

In other words, the fast spinning planets you see were merely the first to be discovered.

The video is a great watch, but wildly inaccurate.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:26 AM
a reply to: eriktheawful

Understand where your coming from. This is a snapshot of a handful of systems out of a galaxy of billions.

We're very limited right now about what we can "see". Whether or not this is accurate is to be seen. Even if it's kinda accurate, though, it does make you wonder why ours seems so orderly.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:36 AM
a reply to: TheAiIsLying

Very pretty view, the movement makes it look so alive and consensious as collectivity, like they have a purpose and are aware of each others. Well allot to wonder about this view, thanks for sharing it.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:57 AM
a reply to: TheAiIsLying

It would take 22 years to detect Jupiter, the dominant planet in our solar system, using the techniques we are using to detect exo-planets. We are detecting what are probably systems early in their development because we have not been observing long enough to detect the more "evolved," stable ones like our own.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 10:00 AM
It doesn't "stick out." It's just that we have more knowledge of our own neighborhood.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 10:15 AM
I don't think that view is to scale.

Those star systems are only the ones who's planets transit their stars on our viewing plane. There are probably a lot more.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 02:32 PM
Here's your video OP,

Maybe your answer is that this is a two dimensional cartoon basically.

edit on 21-8-2016 by smurfy because: Text.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 02:47 PM
a reply to: TheAiIsLying

I guess, if those models are accurate. Why? because of the distance of the outermost planet and orbit speed? Any way if true, interesting to note.

The sample size compared to our galaxy, and certainly to all of the other galaxies are 'infinitely' small.

Are we looking for a reason to feel one of a kind special?

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 03:04 PM
a reply to: Watchfull

Yes what it looks like is that the systems shown are ones with small suns compared to their planets which create a sufficient wobble to detect, and outer planets are not included since they are not detected.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 10:51 PM
I concur with the explanation that we detect mostly huge planets that orbit close to their star (aka the "hot Jupiters") and that's reflected in the video.

Or Solar System obviously doesn't have a "hot Jupiter", but I think that's explained by our system's age, i.e. it had enough time for the giant planets to have migrated outwards. A lot of planetary systems we're looking at in space might be much younger.

Speaking of the number of planets in a system, a star like HR 8832 has 7 confirmed planets, including a rocky "super-Earth". I'd love to see an animation of that particular system.

posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 11:59 PM
This is what you can call a "selection bias". All those exoplanet systems we've discovered have similar characteristics, because those characteristics are what allow us to detect them. In all likelihood, our solar system is completely ordinary, its just that star systems like ours are not currently as easy for us to detect.

posted on Aug, 22 2016 @ 01:34 AM
The graphic shows how random forces control the universe.

posted on Aug, 22 2016 @ 06:40 AM

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I read the article that you linked and this is what they have to say.

The fact that the worlds and systems we've observed are so different from our own is a limitation of our observations, not of the universe.
Yes that's clearly the answer, in the OP's own source. /thread

posted on Aug, 22 2016 @ 07:48 AM
Nothing in our Solar system moves around quite as quickly as those bodies noticed as yet that move around other so far studied stars.

Much more to find and what a time to be alive and watching.. Peace..

Published in May 2016..

NASA's Kepler mission has verified 1,284 new planets – the single largest finding of planets to date. “This announcement more than doubles the number of confirmed planets from Kepler,” said Ellen Stofan, chief scientist at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “This gives us hope that somewhere out there, around a star much like ours, we can eventually discover another Earth.” Analysis was performed on the Kepler space telescope’s July 2015 planet candidate catalog, which identified 4,302 potential planets. For 1,284 of the candidates, the probability of being a planet is greater than 99 percent – the minimum required to earn the status of “planet.” An additional 1,327 candidates are more likely than not to be actual planets, but they do not meet the 99 percent threshold and will require additional study. The remaining 707 are more likely to be some other astrophysical phenomena. This analysis also validated 984 candidates previously verified by other techniques. "Before the Kepler space telescope launched, we did not know whether exoplanets were rare or common in the galaxy. Thanks to Kepler and the research community, we now know there could be more planets than stars,” said Paul Hertz, Astrophysics Division director at NASA Headquarters. "This knowledge informs the future missions that are needed to take us ever-closer to finding out whether we are alone in the universe." Kepler captures the discrete signals of distant planets – decreases in brightness that occur when planets pass in front of, or transit, their stars – much like the May 9 Mercury transit of our sun. Since the discovery of the first planets outside our solar system more than two decades ago, researchers have resorted to a laborious, one-by-one process of verifying suspected planets. This latest announcement, however, is based on a statistical analysis method that can be applied to many planet candidates simultaneously. Timothy Morton, associate research scholar at Princeton University in New Jersey and lead author of the scientific paper published in The Astrophysical Journal, employed a technique to assign each Kepler candidate a planet-hood probability percentage – the first such automated computation on this scale, as previous statistical techniques focused only on sub-groups within the greater list of planet candidates identified by Kepler. "Planet candidates can be thought of like bread crumbs,” said Morton. “If you drop a few large crumbs on the floor, you can pick them up one by one. But, if you spill a whole bag of tiny crumbs, you're going to need a broom. This statistical analysis is our broom." In the newly-validated batch of planets, nearly 550 could be rocky planets like Earth, based on their size. Nine of these orbit in their sun's habitable zone, which is the distance from a star where orbiting planets can have surface temperatures that allow liquid water to pool. With the addition of these nine, 21 exoplanets now are known to be members of this exclusive group. "They say not to count our chickens before they're hatched, but that's exactly what these results allow us to do based on probabilities that each egg (candidate) will hatch into a chick (bona fide planet)," said Natalie Batalha, co-author of the paper and the Kepler mission scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California. “This work will help Kepler reach its full potential by yielding a deeper understanding of the number of stars that harbor potentially habitable, Earth-size planets -- a number that's needed to design future missions to search for habitable environments and living worlds.” Of the nearly 5,000 total planet candidates found to date, more than 3,200 now have been verified, and 2,325 of these were discovered by Kepler. Launched in March 2009, Kepler is the first NASA mission to find potentially habitable Earth-size planets. For four years, Kepler monitored 150,000 stars in a single patch of sky, measuring the tiny, telltale dip in the brightness of a star that can be produced by a transiting planet. In 2018, NASA’s Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite will use the same method to monitor 200,000 bright nearby stars and search for planets, focusing on Earth and Super-Earth-sized. Ames manages the Kepler missions for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate in Washington. The agency’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, managed Kepler mission development. Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corporation operates the flight system, with support from the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado in Boulder. Briefing materials For more information about the Kepler mission, visit: -end-

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