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Why aren't UFOs cloaked?

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posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 07:15 AM
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Reading this thread Strangeness on a tea break about a weird aeroplane, has got me thinking about UFOs cloaking versus appearing in plain view.

Assuming Aliens are visiting Earth in UfOs here are some things we can tease out:

UFOs that are not cloaked

- Many UFOs do not attempt to hide their presence from Humans. They appear, scoot around and flash their lights.
This suggests that they either see us as ants (unintelligent and not worth trying to communicate with) and do not care whether we see them or not.
-Or they want us to know of their presence.

If they did want us to see them and know of their presence why wouldn't they just land on the White House Lawn to announce themselves??

TPTB and Aliens (I don't subscribe to this theory but let's assume that it's true)
-If there are shape-shifting Aliens secretly controlling Earth through the shadow Government/whatever, would they allow us to see their UFOs? Logically, they'd camouflage their craft to look like our airplanes/clouds/etc/Or make them invisible
- There are apparently several races of Aliens; if Earth was being controlled by reptilians then you would assume they'd hide their presence and cloak their craft. But people still report seeing UFOs, why? Maybe the UFOs that people see are from other Alien species who are trying to warn us or are monitoring the reptilians.

Why do you think UFOs aren't cloaked? Surely they'd have the tech to do it - so why not?




posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi



If they did want us to see them and know of their presence why wouldn't they just land on the White House Lawn to announce themselves??

That didnt turn out too well in Independence Day




Why do you think UFOs aren't cloaked? Surely they'd have the tech to do it - so why not?


Dont know about cloaked . But if they can fly through a gazillion miles of empty (relatively speaking) dark space , hy do they need running lights for Earth ?



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi

Because when one observes them, its a two way street, its not like looking at a piece of rock.

True story.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:32 AM
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It's all hypothetical, but...

There's always the matter of incompatibility.

Like not being able to do 2 things at once with power source, like a Klingon bird of prey cannot fire when cloaked.

There may be a state while entering or leaving a dimension when cloaking would not operate.

There could be a recharge time required to reach full power.

Have you ever thought that they may not be able to see us when cloaked?

And, of course, maybe they don't give a toss.

Since we know absolutely nothing about it, anybody's guess could be right.

Peace.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:33 AM
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Would you need to cloak yourself from a beetle?

There are no aliens here anyway so....there's that.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: In4ormant

Yeah, until you see one for yourself.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 08:51 AM
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Why aren't UFOs cloaked?

Maybe they are, but sometimes, only in rare cases, not?

How would we know if we can´t see them?



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi

Im figuring they dont care. Its us that thinks they should or wonder why they arent-cloaked. I'd think them being of a higher intelligence, they realize 33% wouldnt believe a sighting, 33% would-absolutely believe it is aliens...and 33% wouldnt care nor realize what or who it is they are seeing.

We are prob. waaaay too immature and lack the knowledge of what to look and listen for and they know it. It is us that put labels on sightings, aliens, abductions and odd occurrences.

This is exactly why Ive always believed they dont care, nor have too...and that for now we are nothing they want they cant get at a zillion other places out in the cosmos.

Give a rabbit a remote tv control...and Im sure he wouldnt recognize it for what it is, does or how to use it. On a scale of 1-20...I think "they" are a 20+...while we are around a 5.




edit on 21-8-2016 by mysterioustranger because: spl



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi



If they did want us to see them and know of their presence why wouldn't they just land on the White House Lawn to announce themselves??


Maybe they don't know the White House holds any importance?
Maybe they're checking out India or Russia instead because buildings are more ornate, colourful.
Maybe they've already landed there cloaked and decided people are stranger than they thought.

Maybe they went to Antarctica and conversed with penguins instead.
Maybe they decided dolphins are the intelligent species here.
Maybe some are cloaked and others don't care.

Infinite possibilities.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 09:47 AM
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UFOs appear to whomever (individual or group) opens or fixates upon the 'doorways' for them to not only 'slip in' but write into the actuality perceived by conscious experience. The problem is the human conscious mind is filtering out probably about 98% (fudged numbers but (under?)exaggeration for effect) of perception of truth behind the screen-fiction we call social reality, you need psychic energy coordinated in a particular way from a particular subjective structure just for these possibilties to become temporary (or perhaps more permanent) actualities in our everyday conscious lives.

It's like suddenly seeing an object in a scene in a film that should not be there (clashes entirely with the narrative logic) and you're too distracted on the what should be there to really take notice of the anomaly, unless you were looking for it you might unconsciously filter it out to keep the cinematic suspension of disbelief going. Either we snap out of 'reality' and become fixated upon its anomaly (slap ourselves out of the distraction of conscious reality) or we go about our daily business not seeing 'anything' of note at all (repressing or disavowing a traumatic hole in the texture of socio-symbolic 'real life' as such).



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: In4ormant


I'd cloak myself if beetles started producing space based weapons and whatnot. Lasers, particle beams and nuclear devices must hurt like crazy, so yeah - I'd watch out for those beetles.

Besides, we're not your "run of the mill beetle," you know.


I believe they're letting us know they're here, slowly.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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First, you can't see what you can't see. How do you say they don't cloak, just because some are seen? That "logic" makes no sense. Better assume the obvious, that they have an on-and-off switch for that capability.


Second, did it occur to you that they have always wanted to be seen, a subtle way to alert the world to the fact that they were here, this time, in force? How else would we know about them for over half a century? They are here to attempt to teach us some rules for survival and living, not to enslave or eat for lunch.

Why don't we have more mature threads about UFOs and ETs on ATS?



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 10:15 AM
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I have said this for years.

Why do they travel light years and forget to turn the lights off outside their ships. This is one of the main reasons I don't believe they are visitng us. If they can master interstellar travel, then they can master light switches. It makes absolutely NO sense for they to have blinking, flashing lights on.

I have yet to receive an answer to this from UFO folks here on ATS



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014

Maybe for the same reason a bakery puts and "open" sign or some businesses using flashing lights for attention. Or, it's because our skies are filled with giant aluminum tubes filled with people flying around at a quick pace. Maybe? IDK.
edit on 10 27 2013 by donktheclown because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 11:01 AM
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Maybe 99% of the time they are cloaked. They just make themselves visible in order to tease us. Unfortunately, this hypothesis can't be proven, because we can only see them when they are visible.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: 3danimator2014

Maybe for the same reason a bakery puts and "open" sign or some businesses using flashing lights for attention. Or, it's because our skies are filled with giant aluminum tubes filled with people flying around at a quick pace. Maybe? IDK.



It's because they don't exist.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: 3danimator2014

Maybe for the same reason a bakery puts and "open" sign or some businesses using flashing lights for attention. Or, it's because our skies are filled with giant aluminum tubes filled with people flying around at a quick pace. Maybe? IDK.



It's because they don't exist.


Exactly what ostriches think when they cram their own head into the soft sand.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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man what an ignorant thread.


They dont have a choice. Light is a biproduct of their non newtonian propulsion system.

For instance in obe method of propulsion used. When you change metrics of the vacuum you perturb the Virtual EM field of said vacuum using dielectric fields where the group velocity of the photons is faster than "constant" which causes tachyon condensation which is then manifested as cherenkov radiation which we see as bright whitish blue light.

These vehicles are superluminal in this mode of operation whereas their dielectric field is tuned so that the poynting vectors are aligned with that of the spontanious photon emission to match refraction wise with the virtual EM field supressing photon emission which will simultaniously increases the value of C while reducing resistance to Virtual EM drag and therefore inertial mass.

All other ufos that scintillate have multicolors or are deep almost infra red use quantum optical squeezing techniques using dark soliton polarized conjugate lasers and parametric signals mixing of the low frequency fundamental to raise the gain of the noise of the frequency domain to dip below the normal noise threshold. Withbthe help of a bose einstien condensate or superconductor of course.

All while inside a EM resonant plasma cavity to emulate casimir like effects on a macro scale and at the same couple harmonically within that cavity to frequencies in accord with the compton wavelength to develop resonance with the vacuum and harness the power of the bare charge of the leptons therin. This allows more traction from the vacuum and bang for your buck.

Vehicles in this mode of propulsion are sub luminal but still very fast and agile.

El cheapo faux anti gravity is also often achieved using superconductors (all three use superconductors thats critical) in tourus like shapes to produce a strong electric field with its poynting vectors opposite of the direction of earths gravitational pull. Equaling out the mass's energy with electric energy in the opposite direction. This will cause a bouyancy and the vehicle will float appearing like anti gravity. Most 'ufo' operate this way. Its cheap safe and simple. No zigzags or 90 degree turns or sudden starts and stops but looks strange enough to fool most people. Anyways the point is this electric field will ionize the air causing bremsstralung and a violet blue glow.

In all three forms of propulsion produce light. It is what it is.

Of all three the most likely to be able to cloak its self would be option one. Using some sort of index fraction in the dielectric field. And option 3 using metamaterial skin to set up a double negative refraction index.


"Why do ufos have lights?"....shakes head.



posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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Possibly it's only the "mother ship" that's cloaked and sometimes the smaller ships go around uncloaked showing their here or cloaking devices only last so long and appear sometimes in front of people.
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posted on Aug, 21 2016 @ 01:20 PM
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bassplayer nailed it actually. but they ALso Dont care if they are seen as well. They are working with our governments and do not have to worry about being shot at these days.(unless they are doing something not allowwed)



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