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originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: Nochzwei
They don't exist. Which is why Tom Bearden can't show you a simple scalar wave walkie talkie.
eta: he also didn't invent the thing, he stole it from Wally Minto.
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Quantum electrodynamics (QED), quantum field theory of the interactions of charged particles with the electromagnetic field. It describes mathematically not only all interactions of light with matter but also those of charged particles with one another. QED is a relativistic theory in that Albert Einstein’s theory of special relativity is built into each of its equations. Because the behaviour of atoms and molecules is primarily electromagnetic in nature, all of atomic physics can be considered a test laboratory for the theory. Some of the most precise tests of QED have been experiments dealing with the properties of subatomic particles known as muons. The magnetic moment of this type of particle has been shown to agree with the theory to nine significant digits. Agreement of such high accuracy makes QED one of the most successful physical theories so far devised.
Electromagnetic fields are a combination of invisible electric and magnetic fields of force. They are generated by natural phenomena like the Earth’s magnetic field but also by human activities, mainly through the use of electricity.
Mobile phones, power lines and computer screens are examples of equipment that generates electromagnetic fields.
Most man-made electromagnetic fields reverse their direction at regular intervals of time, ranging from high radio frequencies (mobile phones) through intermediate frequencies (computer screens) to extremely low frequencies (power lines).
The term static refers to fields that do not vary with time (i.e. with a frequency of 0 Hz). Static magnetic fields are used in medical imaging and generated by appliances using direct current.
originally posted by: Nochzwei
a reply to: tetra50
Interesting. Thanks I'll look them up
originally posted by: tetra50
originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: Nochzwei
They don't exist. Which is why Tom Bearden can't show you a simple scalar wave walkie talkie.
eta: he also didn't invent the thing, he stole it from Wally Minto.
Here we go: the electromagnetic field referenced doesn't exist at all?
Even Feynman agreed there was such:
of Encyclopædia Britannica
LAST UPDATED:
5-3-2016
Alternate Title: QED
RELATED TOPICS
mechanics
special relativity
field
quantum mechanics
Pascual Jordan
quantum field theory
gauge theory
subatomic particle
Feynman diagram
Richard P. Feynman
Quantum electrodynamics (QED), quantum field theory of the interactions of charged particles with the electromagnetic field. It describes mathematically not only all interactions of light with matter but also those of charged particles with one another. QED is a relativistic theory in that Albert Einstein’s theory of special relativity is built into each of its equations. Because the behaviour of atoms and molecules is primarily electromagnetic in nature, all of atomic physics can be considered a test laboratory for the theory. Some of the most precise tests of QED have been experiments dealing with the properties of subatomic particles known as muons. The magnetic moment of this type of particle has been shown to agree with the theory to nine significant digits. Agreement of such high accuracy makes QED one of the most successful physical theories so far devised.
So, no it's not really a myth, unless you consider the postulations of some of the greatest physicists known to man thus far as myths.....
This is just Bedlam's favorite subject to debunk, when it long ago was bunked, really. What's happening while it's sleeping, is the real question.
regards,
tetra50
originally posted by: Quaria
originally posted by: tetra50
originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: Nochzwei
They don't exist. Which is why Tom Bearden can't show you a simple scalar wave walkie talkie.
eta: he also didn't invent the thing, he stole it from Wally Minto.
Here we go: the electromagnetic field referenced doesn't exist at all?
Even Feynman agreed there was such:
of Encyclopædia Britannica
LAST UPDATED:
5-3-2016
Alternate Title: QED
RELATED TOPICS
mechanics
special relativity
field
quantum mechanics
Pascual Jordan
quantum field theory
gauge theory
subatomic particle
Feynman diagram
Richard P. Feynman
Quantum electrodynamics (QED), quantum field theory of the interactions of charged particles with the electromagnetic field. It describes mathematically not only all interactions of light with matter but also those of charged particles with one another. QED is a relativistic theory in that Albert Einstein’s theory of special relativity is built into each of its equations. Because the behaviour of atoms and molecules is primarily electromagnetic in nature, all of atomic physics can be considered a test laboratory for the theory. Some of the most precise tests of QED have been experiments dealing with the properties of subatomic particles known as muons. The magnetic moment of this type of particle has been shown to agree with the theory to nine significant digits. Agreement of such high accuracy makes QED one of the most successful physical theories so far devised.
So, no it's not really a myth, unless you consider the postulations of some of the greatest physicists known to man thus far as myths.....
This is just Bedlam's favorite subject to debunk, when it long ago was bunked, really. What's happening while it's sleeping, is the real question.
regards,
tetra50
Where in that quote does it say a scalar em like field exists? Quantum electrodynamics uses a vector field just like classical em.
I've read almost all of beardens crap and none op I is even remotely plausible. He's ideas arnt even self consistent.
I read Bedlam's post to mean "Scalar EM Waves don't exist" when he said "They don't exist." since the topic of the thread is "Scalar EM Waves". I don't see any other way to interpret it, but you seem to have done so by thinking Bedlam is referring to electromagnetic fields instead of Scalar Electromagnetic waves.
originally posted by: tetra50
Sry. What am I missing, here? What, exactly, are you saying, respectfully, my friend?
Regards,
tetra50
Some call him the woo man.
If you cannot currently do it in air or vaccuum, shouldn't that be a future quest for scientists / engineers, to acheive this? i wonder
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
a reply to: Nochzwei
You can't do it in air or a vacuum, but you can get something along those lines inside a wave guide.
Longitudinal Wave Propagation in Dielectric Waveguide Array
Of course Bearden wasn't talking about using a wave guide as far as I recall, so this doesn't change your statement
Some call him the woo man.
That's a title he well deserves.
originally posted by: tetra50
This is just Bedlam's favorite subject to debunk, when it long ago was bunked, really. What's happening while it's sleeping, is the real question.
regards,
tetra50
originally posted by: tetra50
Bedlam's POV, if I'm not mistaken in all these years, is there is no such thing as an "electromagnetic field."
Regards,
tetra50
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
a reply to: Nochzwei
You can't do it in air or a vacuum, but you can get something along those lines inside a wave guide.
originally posted by: Nochzwei
If you cannot currently do it in air or vaccuum, shouldn't that be a future quest for scientists / engineers, to acheive this? i wonder
Why would a medium be necessary. Can somehow the photons not be made to have photon compression and rarefaction at a desired freq to propagate longitudinally in vaccuum
originally posted by: Bedlam
originally posted by: Nochzwei
If you cannot currently do it in air or vaccuum, shouldn't that be a future quest for scientists / engineers, to acheive this? i wonder
You'd have to have an 'aether', and you just don't have any.
well firstly dump the bunk relativity and any of its attributes and then find a way to do what i suggested to the photons
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
a reply to: Nochzwei
A vacuum is a vacuum, and how are you going to affect photons with that? There's not much in a vacuum to do anything to photons, except for general relativity effects like lensing. If you want to manipulate the photons you need something to do that, hence, waveguide. It's not a vacuum and can do some interesting things with photons.