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If you don't think that businesses have been running governments since governments have been formed, then you need to go read some actual history books.
But you keep missing my point. The corporations are what is wrong with the economy. However, what you are proposing (hiking up minimum wage) does nothing but boost the power of the corporations further. This is because the major corporations (walmart, google, amazon, etc... etc...) are the only ones that can continue to function (at a loss at first followed shortly thereafter at a major profit due to monopolization) in such a situation. As long as big corporations are buying government, this conversation will continue.
We went from the rule of monarchys, into a rule of the people, then to the dictatorship of government, next is Corporatocracy and Banking institutes, Aka perfected slavery.
originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
a reply to: mOjOm
There is only one logical solution and outcome. Wars, Revolutions and mass genocides of various proportions.
As you said these ideas are not good for "the people" but are workable ideas.
I also know that by raising the minimum wage you also raise the cost of living. There is a reason you can't buy a coke for a nickle anymore. The same reason is why people get paid more for the same jobs in larger cities where the cost of living is higher.
I was making a clarification of that statement.
I made you $XX today, so I bring home $X today, but if I don't make you money then you don't pay me. That is a logical and fair system. But since people don't for the most part want to share in the risk (which is very important here) then yes the pay is going to be dismally low so that the business can continue to stay in business.
Basically get your sh*t together but most importantly slow down the growth of the populace or there are only so many options available before we're all dead."
Technology has and is doing it's best to keep up with us but it can only do so much so fast. But for the most part you really only have so many choices at that point. You either just start Killing People Off in mass murder or you get them to stop breeding until the growth numbers start going down and you let people die off naturally or you do a little of both.
originally posted by: Puppylove
Here's the thing, the nations with the highest standards of living breed the least. The areas where people have higher education and recreation, that can afford an education, typically have the least amount of kids. In many places where people are really doing well, they are actually reducing population.
Meanwhile the poorest areas of the world, where people are impoverished, the worst parts of greater nations, childbirth is really high, the poorer people are, oddly the more breeding they do. There's tons of reasons for it, but this about economics not psychology.
We have the resources to do this. If they really want to fix the population situation peacefully they need to do the opposite of what they are doing. Creating wars and poverty put people into sexual overdrive.
# PAY people a sum of money to NOT have kids. Make having kids a privilege not a right. If you want kids you need to be able to care for them. Make jobs something for people that want kids, or just a higher standard of living. I don't know...
originally posted by: TheRedneck
There are several reasons why we are in the poor economic state we are in
So hate the businesses all you want; the government is the real problem. This same thing has been being preached since I can remember, but the only solutions actually tried are always more of the same failed policies.
Which kinda shifts some of the blame from the government to the guy you see in the mirror every morning.