a reply to: mOjOm
What you're getting from the poor are all the things you clearly take for granted every single day. They're the people who cook you food when
you go out and bring it to you. They're the people who make the clothes you're wearing now and the items that fill your house. They're the people who
build your house that build your appliances, that clean your office, that take care of your kids, that deliver the products you buy and check you out
when you buy them and make sure the shelves are filled when you go to buy them.
They are they people you see every day that are busy working just like you making sure that society is working smoothly.
Herein is the true disconnect.
Those you speak of do indeed keep society running smoothly, but that's not why
they do it. They do it because they want the money that comes
from doing the things they do. I would wager that any industry in the country would grind to an immediate halt if they stopped paying their
On the other end of the scale we have the 'rich' (translation: those who make more than I do) doing the exact same thing, working to make money, but
Romanticism aside, we are all trying to make a living, any way we can.
Here's the real differences:
Person A manages to get through school with passing grades. He then gets a job in an entry level, making minimum wage. He works hard at the job, but
he also likes to have fun... maybe a party on the weekend or a night out during the week. He can afford it, but he can't afford much else. He's also
busy working and having fun, too busy to worry about filling out applications or going on to college or learning a trade. As time goes on, he gets a
raise here or there, but since his mind often wanders, he never makes a huge splash at work. 20 years later, he's about where he started.
Person B tries to get good grades in school. When he gets out of school, he starts thinking about his future. He decides to learn a trade while he's
working alongside person A. So instead of eating out twice a week or having a night out on the town, he starts learning a trade. After a few years,
during which time person A decides he's crazy for working so hard and stops speaking to him, person B gets his certification and starts filling out
applications. A year later he's got a better job, making 50% more than person A and keeps getting raises from there.
Person C can only work part time beside person A because he went on to college. He's spending every waking moment studying and going to class, living
like a pauper to get by. He has to wait 4 years or more before he can get a better job, but when he does he's making 3 times what person A is making.
Now he can rest a bit and enjoy his new job. He gets good raises every year, paid vacations, and a nice office.
Who harmed person A?
Person A did. He made choices in his life. Those choices had consequences. Should he make as much as person C? No, because he didn't make the
sacrifices person C made. As much as person B? No, same reason. Should he make enough to survive? Yes.
But here's the question that people seem to get confused on. What is survival? Food, of course, but are we talking steak or potatoes? Both are food.
Water of course, but that doesn't seem to be an issue. A car is probably needed to be able to hold a job, but does it need to be a Mercedes Benz? Gas
for that car makes sense, but are we talking about enough to get to work and town for supplies, or enough to take long drives on the weekend as well?
How about TV? Is it needed to survive? Cell phones? Smart phones? High speed Internet? Central air conditioning? A house is necessary, but how big
does it need to be?
Person A wants the fancy car, the big house, the steak dinners, and all those other things. But he isn't willing to do what it takes to get them. He
also keeps making bad decisions. The power bill is due next week, but he's hungry, and he deserves
that steak dinner because he's worked hard
this week. When he's running short paying the power bill, he panics and pays 2000% APR at the check cashing service. The whole time he's angry because
person B is living in a nice section of town and person C is driving a Mercedes Benz through the drive-thru where he works. It's just not fair!
So he decides to get a raise. He joins with others in a similar position and forces the government to give him a raise. His company is now spending
more, so the prices go up to cover it. Soon everything is more expensive and person A is having more trouble than before.
Person B is having trouble, too, but he managed to get a COLA raise, so he's still doing OK. Person C didn't have much trouble because he made so much
already, but he still gets the same COLA raise. They're OK, but person A is hurting worse than before. So he joins others and they get another minimum
wage increase... same result. They do this 4 or 5 times. Then the company he works for can't afford to pay their payroll, and they cut hours. Person A
is now having to survive on less money than before, and prices continue to rise.
Person B's workload has dropped off, because there's not as many people who can afford him. But he's still getting by. He uses his free time to get
more certifications so he can make more. Person C starts investing his money because he sees the economy slowing down. He's fine.
Another minimum wage increase, and the company person A has worked for for 20 years closes... they just can't afford to keep the doors open. Person A
has to start over looking for a new job. But he has no real skills. Jobs are hard to come by, because he's not young any more and there's so many
other unskilled workers trying to find a job too. So person A goes on welfare.
Again, who harmed person A? Person A did.
That is reality, folks. It's hard, sometimes cruel, but it is how things work. Sure, you can find villains, sitting in the mega-banks and the heirs of
Sam Walton, but those are exceptions. The vast, vast majority of the people in trouble today are just like person A.
I do not hate these people; I want more than anything to help these people. I preach often and loudly in my daily life for them to better themselves,
pull themselves up by their bootstraps, make some good decisions and have a better life. I preach constantly on here not to make their situation worse
through bad decisions like drastic minimum wage hikes. I want them all to succeed!
They cannot succeed in a fantasy, and that is what people are begging for: a fantasy land that will bite them in the posterior when it turns to
reality. If you really want to help people, help them to help themselves. Don't pat them on the back while they're slitting their own throat.