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Trump Goes Full Reagan On Fighting Radical Islam, Media Ignores

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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:00 AM
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Trump made some interesting comments about the Middle East problems a couple of days ago at a rally in Ohio.

He said:

This summer, there has been an ISIS attack launched outside the war zones of the Middle East every 84 hours.


And he went on to talk about all the countries before and after Obama took office and Hillary was appointed SoS.

Maybe not so far fetched about Radical Islam.

Trump Goes Full Reagan On Fighting Radical Islam, Media Ignores




Let’s look back at the Middle East at the very beginning of 2009, before the Obama-Clinton Administration took over said Trump.

Libya was stable.

Syria was under control.

Egypt was ruled by a secular President and an ally of the United States.

Iraq was experiencing a reduction in violence.

The group that would become what we now call ISIS was close to being extinguished.

Iran was being choked off by economic sanctions.

Fast-forward to today. What have the decisions of Obama-Clinton produced?

Libya is in ruins, our ambassador and three other brave Americans are dead, and ISIS has gained a new base of operations.

Syria is in the midst of a disastrous civil war. ISIS controls large portions of territory. A refugee crisis now threatens Europe and the United States.

In Egypt, terrorists have gained a foothold in the Sinai desert, near the Suez Canal, one of the most essential waterways in the world.

Iraq is in chaos, and ISIS is on the loose.

ISIS has spread across the Middle East, and into the West. In 2014, ISIS was operating in some 7 nations. Today they are fully operational in 18 countries with aspiring branches in 6 more, for a total of 24 – and many believe it is even more than that. The situation is likely worse than the public knows: a new Congressional report reveals that the Administration has downplayed the growth of ISIS, with 40% of analysts saying they had experienced efforts to manipulate their findings.

At the same time, ISIS is trying to infiltrate refugee flows into Europe and the United States.






posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:08 AM
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What bothers me most about all of this is that we're the US, and those are a *bunch* of other countries.

We're not the world police, we shouldn't be involved in at least most of those countries. At all.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:08 AM
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In fairness this is all the result of the catastrophic Bush/Blair wars in Afghanistan and particularly Iraq. Bit unfair to blame it on Obama/Clinton.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:12 AM
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Well, to be fair it did play live on CNN. Albeit with some stupid captioning.

Gotta say I agreed and liked the anti-terrorism speech on the whole, but there are several points I disagreed with. Primarily his stance against Iran. Iran is of course no saint of a country, but their cooperation is absolutely vital to defeating the Islamic State, as will that of Hamas and Hezbollah, both of which are active in Syria in support of the Syrian Government.

A hostile stance towards Iran while the Islamic State remains a threat wouldn't doesn't seem particularly well thought out. Take whatever action you want against them after the Islamic State and their proxies are destroyed, but at least early in his presidency he'd be wise to consider a less antagonistic approach towards Iran.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: Painterz

Two separate things. There is a reason that Obama calls them ISIL. As far as blame, yes, 7 years of failed policy from the current administration is where we are. They have had time to reverse everything else so why not foriegn policy? Maybe they should have worried more about that then shoving more taxes hidden as the ACA down the throats of Americans.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
In fairness this is all the result of the catastrophic Bush/Blair wars in Afghanistan and particularly Iraq.

Bit unfair to blame it on Obama/Clinton.



THANKS BUSH!

In fairness, the situation in Iraq had been nearly stabilized and the $hit didn't hit the fan till Obama removed us from the area. His support of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Arab spring helped to fuel the fire too.

And Clinton, don't even get me started. He's the whole reason Osama put out the "Paper Tiger" declaration that lead the the start of this war. Remember Somalia?




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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
In fairness this is all the result of the catastrophic Bush/Blair wars in Afghanistan and particularly Iraq. Bit unfair to blame it on Obama/Clinton.



Or it could be the limp wristed president that nobody in the world fears.
He speaks softly but doesn't use the big stick.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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This summer, there has been an ISIS attack launched outside the war zones of the Middle East every 84 hours.

Becuuuz the flood of refugees from war torn regions.

Stop the wars, stop the refugees, stop the blowback.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Painterz
In fairness this is all the result of the catastrophic Bush/Blair wars in Afghanistan and particularly Iraq. Bit unfair to blame it on Obama/Clinton.



Or it could be the limp wristed president that nobody in the world fears.
He speaks softly but doesn't use the big stick.


Obama made the situation worse.

But the USA should never have been in Iraq in the first place.

Post 9/11 forign policy has been a diasater.
Snd more than one president is to blame.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok


Fair enough. They both suck. Can't wait till the Benghazi babe gets ahold of foreign relation.
World war three!



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Painterz
In fairness this is all the result of the catastrophic Bush/Blair wars in Afghanistan and particularly Iraq. Bit unfair to blame it on Obama/Clinton.



Or it could be the limp wristed president that nobody in the world fears.
He speaks softly but doesn't use the big stick.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH two words... drone program.

Yup. Obummer surely is a saint.

Get out of here.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Painterz
In fairness this is all the result of the catastrophic Bush/Blair wars in Afghanistan and particularly Iraq. Bit unfair to blame it on Obama/Clinton.



Or it could be the limp wristed president that nobody in the world fears.
He speaks softly but doesn't use the big stick.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH two words... drone program.

Yup. Obummer surely is a saint.

Get out of here.


Hey, get it right! Obama is weak internationally, except when the narrative demands that he be a warhawk.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:52 AM
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Did trump sell weapons to iran and then fund guerrillas in south america?

Cause thats going full reagan
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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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Triple
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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Painterz
In fairness this is all the result of the catastrophic Bush/Blair wars in Afghanistan and particularly Iraq. Bit unfair to blame it on Obama/Clinton.



Or it could be the limp wristed president that nobody in the world fears.
He speaks softly but doesn't use the big stick.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH two words... drone program.

Yup. Obummer surely is a saint.

Get out of here.


A saint? Idiot maybe.
Yeah, drones got the whole Middle East shaking in their sandles.
No countries fear him.


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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:59 AM
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And they'll continue to Ignore the obvious.

Doesnt matter who says it, it's all true!



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

triple double quadruple... what the '### are you on about now?



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk


In fairness, the situation in Iraq had been nearly stabilized and the $hit didn't hit the fan till Obama removed us from the area.

How indefinitely should we have stayed in Iraq?



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk



In fairness, the situation in Iraq had been nearly stabilized and the $hit didn't hit the fan till Obama removed us from the area.

Which is a flat out lie. The paperwork saying when we would leave was already signed before Obama walked into office.



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