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I'm a Visual Artist / Art trader but my business is suppressed by bigbrother

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posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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Its because of my perseverance that I fight bigbrother to see another day. I fight by telephone, email and facebook against the surveillance society and the corruption and injustice that comes with it, however I don't trust these media 100% can be filtered, people can be fake etc.. This is I think the biggest conspiracy website, I will give it a try, but I have only one conspiracy I want to talk about.

bigbrother is the pan global conglomerate of the secret services in the world.
edit on 17-8-2016 by galien8 because: Style is now better




posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: galien8

Welcome to the "appendix of the internet" (as I like to call it)

I hope you find some benefit from joining the site.

I have enjoyed it for the most part and learned a lot. Looking forward to seeing you on the forums and hearing about your experiences and perspective



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 08:43 PM
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a deluded artist huh?
well, welcome to ats.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 01:06 AM
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What evidence is there that makes you believe that?



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 05:25 AM
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a reply to: 0racle

Conversion factors of art webshops will be between around 0.6% (% VISITORS that make a sale)

(0.994^969) 1 in 340 that my webshop did not make any sales
(0.994^2,000) 1 in 170,000 that I did not make any sales at marktplaats.nl (Dutch EBAY)

In statistics 1 in 20 or more is good enough to reject the hypothesis: "this happens pure by change"

now I'm testing artfinder.com I must have 6,000 PAGE VIEWS to say that with at least 1 in 20 certainty, conversion factor is lower 0.05%



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 05:28 AM
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a reply to: galien8

So basically... You're not being noticed enough, and you think that some "bigbrother" police state is responsible for that??



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: galien8
a reply to: 0racle

Conversion factors of art webshops will be between around 0.6% (% VISITORS that make a sale)

(0.994^969) 1 in 340 that my webshop did not make any sales
(0.994^2,000) 1 in 170,000 that I did not make any sales at marktplaats.nl (Dutch EBAY)

In statistics 1 in 20 or more is good enough to reject the hypothesis: "this happens pure by change"

now I'm testing artfinder.com I must have 6,000 PAGE VIEWS to say that with at least 1 in 20 certainty, conversion factor is lower 0.05%


Its obviously because you dont display my work. Tons of people.look at my work everyday in



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: galien8

So basically... You're not being noticed enough, and you think that some "bigbrother" police state is responsible for that??



Now I know why not many people came to my art how in London 2 years ago. TPTB!



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:42 AM
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In resume you are feeling a conspiracy where there's none, takes a good streak of luck or simply being GOOD to be noticed these days in the art avenues.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: galien8

I dont think its really Big Brother per se. Same reason affects you as musicians/bands hoping theyll get a multi-platinum or gold hit. The odds of it are astronomically against you..and I dont have to tell you how many groups throughout the years have tried, hope and prayed for one.

Look at your efforts like a casino. Casinos are set up 110% AGAINST the gambling patron. They hope you DONT win...but deceive folks into believing they will.

Its not Big Brother that(excuse me)...holds all the cards. Normal slanting of the law of averages, and perhaps not a PTB issue.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: swanne

Yes I think for rebellious art activism artists like me a central predestination computer (in fact a huge Turing test passed data center) on the internet controls the cyber economy, can hack into any website, can hand you fake statistics of visitors you never had, can control websites from a distance, manipulates that only you see your websites and people your are in contact with, can put you in a internet "Truman Show Dome"



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: Substracto

I agree, moreover there is no money anymore among the people, but on the other hand I represent 10 to 20 academic artists (this varies they come and go), they cannot all be bad. OK me, I'm just an autodidact artist / web developer / business man / scientist with some minimum support from the government, I only sell to friends and family, never to the Internet public, visitors of my websites that do not know me, only see my work and that of about 15 artists I represent


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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: galien8

969 is bounce rate corrected number of visitors, OK bounce rate was high (85%) Spend $400 on Adwords image ads in display network (means images shown in Adsense ads of websites viewed in targeted regions). $0.15 per click. No sales. Very nice features though Adwords program ...the more you pay, the longer you play...

This accounts for 400 really interested visitors, the other are from social media and SEO


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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger

Yes Google Adwords is a Casino :-(

969 is bounce rate corrected number of visitors, OK bounce rate was high (85%) Spend $400 on Adwords image ads in display network (means images shown in Adsense ads of websites viewed in targeted regions). $0.15 per click. No sales. Very nice features though Adwords program ...the more you pay, the longer you play...

This accounts for 400 really interested visitors, the other are from social media and SEO



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: galien8

You have mininum support from the government, most artists dont, depends on the country you live, but most artists get no support whatsoever from their governments, unless they are hired by them someway or another. Im saying this because Im also an artist myself, I know its no easy to thrive on art, but its a decision you made prior knowing the outcome, sometimes I will even work on things not art related just to be able to support myself, but the self growth coming from art is something so essential that I will never stop creating, however I think you made a nice thread here. In northern european/scandinavian countries, the government supports artists a lot better than in most places, if you have an idea you can approach them, explain it, and they will give you funds, thats quite amazing, isnt it?



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Substracto

YES

In Holland one can be a business startup with basic income $1,000 per month, you do not build up debt, its like welfare (or dole as they say in the UK), for free, however you still got to look for a job, when you are a "noble" business startup, you also get this, but you can get government loans of up to $300,000, depending on your business plan, moreover if you are successful in this case you got to pay back the "welfare" you needed for life support during startup as well.

...I don't get what I deserve, but I get what I need... I always admitted that



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: galien8

You bring to mind a festival last weekend the wife and I attended. All Made in Michigan support your local vendor 4 blocks of their products fair. You know what we saw booth after booth after booth? And what those products were?

Salsa sauces. Dozens of them. And each one wasnt selling any. If you went by say 5-6 salsa booths sampling..you may have bought some even. Well...the next 15-20 vendors werent selling any. None. And you could tell by the looks on their faces "We thought we had a good idea"...but so did the 1st 2 blocks of 10 or so vendors...and the next 2 blocks.

At other "art fairs" we go to as well...some of the vendors are chasing after you with "Everything is on sale? ""What are you interested in?". And the people walking by? "No thanks. We're just looking". After all those booths...I dont want to buy anything. Too much of a good thing.

Some yearly fests we've gone to year after year...we stopped going to for that reason. How much "art" "bracelets" "hanging mobiles" "salsas" do you need?

There a point in there somewhere.....



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger

The people that are organizing art fairs and selling (for hire) the stands have drilled a new market, the poor artists that badly want or need to sell their art, I can't blame them (the stand sellers) its still like making a honest buck. There are plenty art fairs like a market in my city. I my self going to be on an art fair in September, to give it a try, 1 day $30: stand, free lunch and a chair


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posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 09:44 PM
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Is your art something the masses will eat up? If not, and it's more niche, what can you really expect?



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

YES!!! They will devour it, when they only get to see it!

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