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‘Abomination of Desolation’?

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posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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Is this prophecy fulfilled by the building of the Temple in Brazil?


“When you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation . . . '—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”


Another scripture says that jerusalem will be surrounded by soldiers and then they need to flee.



But more often throughout the Bible “abomination” refers to major covenant violations, especially idolatry (in Deuteronomy alone, see 7:25, 13:6-16, 17:2-5, 18:9-12, 27:15, 32:16). In the historical books, “abomination” always describes idolatry, often with child sacrifice (1 Kings 11:7, 2 Kings 23:13). Abomination also refers to idolatry in the prophets, including Daniel 9 and 11. (Daniel uses siqqus, a term that always appears in connection with idolatry.)

www.thegospelcoalition.org...

Could the building of the replica already be idolatry? Along with it's false Ark of the Covenant.
It was built using Israeli stone



A Third Temple, a Replica of Solomon's Temple, Was Built in Brazil and Inaugurated on July 31, 2014 for the One World Religion

Built by The Universal Church of the Kingdom of God, a Brazilian Pentecostal church that claims 8 million followers in 180 countries at a cost of 300 million?
Could the abomination be the builder or the users?


The Universal Life Church Monastery strongly believes in the rights of all people from all faiths to practice their religious beliefs, regardless of what those beliefs are, be they Christian, Jew, Gentile, Agnostic, Atheist, Buddhist, Shinto, Pagan, Wiccan, Druid or even Dignity Catholics; so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others and are within the law of the land and one’s conscience.

We ordain ministers, priests, rabbis and clergy worldwide who are totally non-religious or even anti-religious. This may seem contradictory, but we are looking to change the negative perceptions of religion, faith and spirituality, by encouraging people to take control, stand up and speak truth to power by fearlessly stating their personal religious beliefs.




“More than twenty thousand people flock to the Temple every day in its daily services and the things that are happening here are unbelievable,” he told Breaking Israel News. “More than 5 million people have visited the Temple since its opening.”
Read more at www.breakingisraelnews.com...



Rabbi Chaim Richman, the International Director of the Temple Institute, which is dedicated to the rebuilding of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, feels differently. He came out strongly against the Templo de Salomão even before it was built.

“This is taking the promise of redemption for all mankind and using it for something altogether different,” he argued. “This is a total bastardization of the sanctity of the Holy Temple.”

www.breakingisraelnews.com...

The church that built it is the richest in Brazil many complaints against them
www.religionnewsblog.com...
Brazilian evangelical leader charged with fraud
www.theguardian.com...
edit on 17-8-2016 by SeaWorthy because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 07:44 PM
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starr flagg.....probably not but that place is a sight, huh!!



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

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Daniel 12:11
11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
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Anyone who believes in the the "7 Year Tribulation" also believes in a third temple being built and the "Anti-Christ" will go into the temple to be worshiped and that is the "Abomination that maketh Desolate". However, we should forget about John Darby's dispensation because it is a theory and is not supported by scripture.

With that said, let's use the prophetic 1 Day equals 1 Year to decrypt this prophecy. 1290 days is what is prophesied in this verse, which is actually 1290 years according to God. When should this prophecy begin? Well, the verse tells us, "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away".

In 583 BC, the priests were taken captive by the Babylonians. There was no one left to make sacrifices. Therefore, this was the last time sacrifices were taken away from the temple. So, let's work out the prophesied 1290 days and see where it ends up.

(1290 Levitical Years) x (.9857 Solar Conversion) = 1271.55 Solar Days
(583 BC) + (1271 Solar Years) = 688 AD

What happened in 688 AD? Between 685 AD and 705 AD the third most Holiest Mosque was built on the Temple Mount. Abd el Malik ibn Marwan, built a memorial to Muhammad, the Dome of the Rock, on Gods temple mount!

The "Dome of the Rock" is the "Abomination that maketh Desolate".

Now we know that a person named the Anti-Christ is not what makes the Temple Mount Desolate nor is the Abomination of Desolation future tense. Therefore, it can not be a part of a FUTURE "7 Year Tribulation".

Praise God! It gets better! If that isn't enough proof for you, lets take a look at Revelation 11:2.
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Revelation 11:2
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
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"In 685, the Moslem governor of Jerusalem, one Kalifah Abd el Malik ibd Marwan, began clearing the temple mount. He used the local people to do so, including the Christians and Jews still living in the city. When the bedrock was exposed, they found two solid rock promontories within 300 feet of each other. The one to the south they named as-Sakhra and over as-Sakhra they built the memorial to Muhammad, the Dome of the Rock, the actual construction of which began in 688."

"Over the other promontory, an unusually flat stone, to the north and slightly west of as-Sakhra a little, unimposing cupola was constructed they aptly named "The Dome of the Spirits" or "The Dome of the Tablets". Having no science of archaeology during those days, guess what? They built the "Dome of the Rock" in the wrong place."

In Revelation 11:2 tells us, "the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months". Lets start from when the "Dome of the Rock" was built (688 AD) and add the 42 months to that date and see what the end date is.

(NOTE)
Being that we are using a verse in the New Testament, there is no need for the conversion (.9857) because the New Testament was written in Greek which uses the Solar Calendar.

(356.24 Days) / (12 Months) = 30.44 Days per Month
(42 Months) x (30.44 Days) = 1279
(688 AD) + (1279) = 1967 AD

What happened in 1967 AD? Israel became a free nation after winning what is know as the 6-Day War. Guess what the Holy City had just stopped being "tread down by the Gentiles" when they won that war. Prophetic accuracy is awesome!



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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"Obomination" of Desolation



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: GBP/JPY
starr flagg.....probably not but that place is a sight, huh!!


All of this must mean something!


"The Bible teaches that the essence of Jerusalem is the presence of G-d," Rabbi Richman continues, quoting Isaiah's prophecy: "It will happen in the end of days, that the mountain of the Temple of the L-rd will be firmly established at the head of the mountains…and all the nations will stream to it. Many peoples will go up and say, ‘Come, let us go up to the mountain of the L-rd, to the Temple of the G-d of Jacob…for from Zion will the Torah come forth, and the word of the L-rd from Jerusalem.'

"Bishop Macedo's planned mega-church," Rabbi Richman continued, "is a usurpation and abuse of the sacred space that is embodied by the Biblical concept and vision of the Holy Temple, and a gross expropriation of Judaism's most sacred values. The Divine Presence of G-d cannot be copycatted and cannot simply be usurped and transplanted elsewhere. This is nothing more than the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God's cynical and manipulative attempt to morph the Bible's universal message into its own self-serving agenda."

www.templeinstitute.org...

It sounds like an abomination to me!




It will have a conveyor belt designed to carry the tithe of the faithful from the altar right into a safe room, a huge screen and 10,000 LED bulbs installed in the ceiling of the main hall, which will form different patterns, like stars. The walls are adorned with huge menorahs, including a large one near the entrance. The flags of Brazil and the Universal Church will fly alongside those of Israel and the United States, and those of several other countries.

The mega temple altar is a show unto itself. It is shaped like the Ark of the Covenant, described in the Book of Exodus as the chest where David placed the Tablets of Stone on which the Ten Commandments were inscribed and that were kept in the first Solomon Temple. Macedo ordered the structure to be entirely covered with gold leaf. In the background, there is a baptistry with a pool in which the converted can get dressed in white and then go to Communion, according to Universal’s own rules.

The top of the altar showcases 100 square meters of gold stained glass windows, in order to make the faithful to feel as if they were looking at an open box of gold. Everything will be broadcast on two large screens brought from Belgium.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

I have deleted my post because I just put the TV on and while I was fliching through the channels paused on TBN, a speaker on one of there show's, a pastor was giving a lecture about Nehemiah and how he did for god even though other's were pulling him down saying it was this or it was that.

This is not the TEMPLE of old, the Temple is the body of Christ on earth, it is the body's and soul's and heart's of Christian believers.

The prophecy refers to the temple's location which IS in dispute as the Temple mount location was PROBABLY not it but rather the site of the large ROMAN FORT that overlooked Jerusalem though IT IS possible that it was the original site of the pre Babylonian Exile temple so it just may be the right location.

This Temple recreation in Brasil does not dishonor God and it does not fit into the Prophecy, it is just a temple of stone that this church if it was correct should rather have payed to the poor and built God's living church not this edifice white stone.

So I have my reservation's about a cult that leads so many of My brothers and sister's but that said has this done good or bad, I am not it's judge only the lord is, do they help the poor and the needy and does this class as spreading the gospel by bringing people's attention back to the REAL God, it may very well be so and the one whom matter's is God.

As for Holy place, God made the whole world so he HAS walked every inch of it but the Holy place is were he is and were better than in the heart's of believers, if believers in his son are in this place therefore then so is he and he can turn anything to his purpose.

Remember that message, Nehemiah was told not to do this and not to do that because other's said he should not, he did so anyway and Glorified God.

edit on 18-8-2016 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 03:14 AM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Magic in stone. Sadly they think they can control what they're calling.
"Spirits that I have cited. My commandments ignore."J.W.vonGoethe



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 03:21 AM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy
Only if Brazil counts as "the holy place".
Otherwise, the words "standing in the holy place" have not been fulfilled.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:59 AM
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Just a thought,with Jesus came a new covenantCould the Vatican could be considered the Temple and Mass the daily sacrifice?If so,well prophecy coud be fulfilled a lot easier and faster than anyone wants to happen.With the new alliances forming since Turkey went hard core Islamic Ezekiel`s war with Magog looks way more likely.Getting interesting to those who have read the book-sounds like newscasts of today.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: SeaWorthy
Only if Brazil counts as "the holy place".
Otherwise, the words "standing in the holy place" have not been fulfilled.


Well it is an exact replica of "the holy temple" made with the same Israeli stone plus a replica of the arc of the covenant. They have ordained pagans among others as priests to the temple and corrupted the original purpose for gain.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: ridgerunner
Just a thought,with Jesus came a new covenantCould the Vatican could be considered the Temple and Mass the daily sacrifice?If so,well prophecy coud be fulfilled a lot easier and faster than anyone wants to happen.With the new alliances forming since Turkey went hard core Islamic Ezekiel`s war with Magog looks way more likely.Getting interesting to those who have read the book-sounds like newscasts of today.


There is thinking outside the box. I don't think so myself as I don't think the Catholic Church is in that position but I like the thinking.

I just feel that this means something, it is not just a fluke that they suddenly built this replica and spent 300 million and made it to join all religions just as the Pope has been working to do.

Love this part



The sanctuary has a conveyor belt system designed to carry tithes and offerings from the altar directly into a safe room.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: NoSoup4U
a reply to: SeaWorthy

************************************************************************************
Daniel 12:11
11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
************************************************************************************

Anyone who believes in the the "7 Year Tribulation" also believes in a third temple being built and the "Anti-Christ" will go into the temple to be worshiped and that is the "Abomination that maketh Desolate". However, we should forget about John Darby's dispensation because it is a theory and is not supported by scripture.

With that said, let's use the prophetic 1 Day equals 1 Year to decrypt this prophecy. 1290 days is what is prophesied in this verse, which is actually 1290 years according to God. When should this prophecy begin? Well, the verse tells us, "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away".

In 583 BC, the priests were taken captive by the Babylonians. There was no one left to make sacrifices. Therefore, this was the last time sacrifices were taken away from the temple. So, let's work out the prophesied 1290 days and see where it ends up.

(1290 Levitical Years) x (.9857 Solar Conversion) = 1271.55 Solar Days
(583 BC) + (1271 Solar Years) = 688 AD

What happened in 688 AD? Between 685 AD and 705 AD the third most Holiest Mosque was built on the Temple Mount. Abd el Malik ibn Marwan, built a memorial to Muhammad, the Dome of the Rock, on Gods temple mount!

The "Dome of the Rock" is the "Abomination that maketh Desolate".

Now we know that a person named the Anti-Christ is not what makes the Temple Mount Desolate nor is the Abomination of Desolation future tense. Therefore, it can not be a part of a FUTURE "7 Year Tribulation".

Praise God! It gets better! If that isn't enough proof for you, lets take a look at Revelation 11:2.
************************************************************************************
Revelation 11:2
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
************************************************************************************
"In 685, the Moslem governor of Jerusalem, one Kalifah Abd el Malik ibd Marwan, began clearing the temple mount. He used the local people to do so, including the Christians and Jews still living in the city. When the bedrock was exposed, they found two solid rock promontories within 300 feet of each other. The one to the south they named as-Sakhra and over as-Sakhra they built the memorial to Muhammad, the Dome of the Rock, the actual construction of which began in 688."

"Over the other promontory, an unusually flat stone, to the north and slightly west of as-Sakhra a little, unimposing cupola was constructed they aptly named "The Dome of the Spirits" or "The Dome of the Tablets". Having no science of archaeology during those days, guess what? They built the "Dome of the Rock" in the wrong place."

In Revelation 11:2 tells us, "the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months". Lets start from when the "Dome of the Rock" was built (688 AD) and add the 42 months to that date and see what the end date is.

(NOTE)
Being that we are using a verse in the New Testament, there is no need for the conversion (.9857) because the New Testament was written in Greek which uses the Solar Calendar.

(356.24 Days) / (12 Months) = 30.44 Days per Month
(42 Months) x (30.44 Days) = 1279
(688 AD) + (1279) = 1967 AD

What happened in 1967 AD? Israel became a free nation after winning what is know as the 6-Day War. Guess what the Holy City had just stopped being "tread down by the Gentiles" when they won that war. Prophetic accuracy is awesome!


So where would that leave us now?
The temple was officially inaugurated on July 31, 2014


Luke 21:20
But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near.




posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy


Is this prophecy fulfilled by the building of the Temple in Brazil?

No. That prophecy was fulfilled between AD 68-70.


Could the building of the replica already be idolatry? Along with it's false Ark of the Covenant.

No more idolatry than building a Noah's Ark replica.



“This is taking the promise of redemption for all mankind and using it for something altogether different,” he argued. “This is a total bastardization of the sanctity of the Holy Temple.”

BrekingIsraelNews is a propaganda organ. Of course the people who want the money going to Israel rather than Brazil would complain.

Yeah, the redemption of all mankind is foiled if there isn't a temple in Jerusalem, yeah right.

It's a mega church with pews inside. It isn't a temple that only priests can enter.



posted on Aug, 18 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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Well it is an exact replica of "the holy temple"

No. It is not. It's a whole lot bigger. The bible temple did not have 10,000 seats. It had no seats at all.



They have ordained pagans among others as priests to the temple

I rather doubt that.

A UN report published in 2009 by Brazil's Committee Against Religious Intolerance (CCIR) stated that Pentecostal churches in general, and the UCKG in particular, was harassing and attacking, sometimes violently, people of other faiths and spreading religious intolerance. The UCKG was "demonizing" especially Afro-Brazilian syncretic religions such as Umbanda and Candomblé; "Jews are portrayed as 'the killers of Christ', Catholics as 'devil worshippers', traditional Protestants as 'false Christians' and Muslims as 'demonic'", the report said. spiritists were also reported to have been the subject of attacks. The UN Committee is made up of the leaders of 18 religious and human rights groups. The committee's chairman said "Fascism and Nazism started this way, from demonizing other groups"
Universal_Church_of_the_Kingdom_of_God#Relati ons_with_other_religions



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 03:33 PM
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They have ordained pagans among others as priests to the temple

I rather doubt that.

Doubt what? they said that i didn't.



The Universal Life Church Monastery strongly believes in the rights of all people from all faiths to practice their religious beliefs, regardless of what those beliefs are, be they Christian, Jew, Gentile, Agnostic, Atheist, Buddhist, Shinto, Pagan, Wiccan, Druid or even Dignity Catholics; so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others and are within the law of the land and one’s conscience.

We ordain ministers, priests, rabbis and clergy worldwide who are totally non-religious or even anti-religious.


Read more at www.themonastery.org...

www.themonastery.org...

It was an exact copy only larger as foretold




Architect and project designer Rogério Silva de Araújo explained that the measurements were taken directly from the Bible. “A cubit was the distance between the elbow and the fingertips—which corresponded to 18 inches or 52.4 centimeters,” he explained. “Based on this piece of information, it was possible to calculate that the house king Solomon built for the Lord was approximately 31.44 meters long, 10.48 meters wide and 15.72 meters high. Also in Haggai 2:9, it says, ‘The glory of this latter temple shall be greater.’ ”

universalonechurchblog.org... hop-of-the-universal-one-church/




We ordain ministers, priests, rabbis and clergy worldwide who are totally non-religious or even anti-religious. This may seem contradictory, but we are looking to change the negative perceptions of religion, faith and spirituality, by encouraging people to take control, stand up and speak truth to power by fearlessly stating their personal religious beliefs. – the Church’s intro page, and its About Us page

globalslaves.blogspot.com...



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Sorry to burst the propaganda bubble but:

Universal Life Church Ministries is not Universal Church of the Kingdom of God in São Paulo.

Whatever propaganda rag is claiming they are should be sued immediately for libel.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Sorry to burst the propaganda bubble but:

Universal Life Church Ministries is not Universal Church of the Kingdom of God in São Paulo.

Whatever propaganda rag is claiming they are should be sued immediately for libel.



If they have mixed the two in so many articles I would think it on purpose, i will have to research some more.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 11:41 PM
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It looked to me like the globalslaves blog just sort of threw it in.

Often I've seen where one source has an article then other people quote it without looking at the sources.




posted on Aug, 20 2016 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: SeaWorthy

It looked to me like the globalslaves blog just sort of threw it in.

Often I've seen where one source has an article then other people quote it without looking at the sources.



They do that a lot lately! I still think the whole thing means something because of the timing, I believe this is the last days. I also see the ME as real because if it isn't real my whole family is nuts! I just want to put 2 and 2 together and get something!!!



posted on Aug, 20 2016 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: NoSoup4U

Can you provide a source for the prophetic interpretation you've applied & explained here? It seems remarkably accurate in terms of the dates actually matching up so neatly, so I'm wondering where you got the information from, as in which school of thought (in terms of bible prophecy interpretation) you adhere to or take inspiration from?




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