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What If Trump Loses The Election?

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posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

Actually no , he immediately disavowed.



Trump in 2000.

Trump: Well, you’ve got David Duke just joined — a bigot, a racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.


Trump in 2016

"Just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke, OK?" Trump said.
Trump was pressed three times on whether he'd distance himself from the Ku Klux Klan -- but never mentioned the group in his answers.
"I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists," he said. "So I don't know. I don't know -- did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke; I know nothing about white supremacists."


LINK.

So, he's either a blatant liar or mentally incompetent.




posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 01:54 PM
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It's really quite simple:

If Clinton wins the Trump supporters will riot and attempt to start a civil war. America will take it's final breaths then die a slow, agonising death.

If Trump wins then America will also take its final breaths then die a fast, agonising death.

Either way, methinks it's Kaput-time for America - and you have nobody to blame but yourselves.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: Kryties




If Clinton wins the Trump supporters will riot and attempt to start a civil war. America will take it's final breaths then die a slow, agonising death.


I think your a bit confused, republicans are not the ones who cry when they don't get their way but I say when Hillary wins the whole world will suffer.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

I think your a bit confused, republicans are not the ones who cry when they don't get their way but I say when Hillary wins the whole world will suffer.


No confusion here
I am looking in from a third-person perspective and seeing things that those who are involved on either the Rep or Dem side clearly cannot.

I stand by my prediction that the Trump supporters will riot and try to start a civil war. Look at how they are acting now? Imagine if they lose?

But, of course, you are clearly a Republican so all of this is going to fall on deaf ears. Doesn't matter if Trump wins or loses , you will reap what you sowed - and it won't be pretty.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

I don't think you know what your talking about but go ahead and produce some footage of Donald supporters causing problems like the Bernie and Hillary supporters.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

I don't think


Clearly 'thinking' is not your strong suit. You may wish to do less of that.




edit on 19/8/2016 by Kryties because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

So you can't produce any proof then.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

So you can't produce any proof then.



Which one of the numerous video proofs would you like? One of the many times he advocated for violence against protestors at one of his rallies, and the crowd gladly obliged?

I could go on all day with examples, but I won't because you have completely proven my point for me by claiming Trump supporters have never caused trouble - an obvious and provable lie.

Keep trying though mate, this is quite amusing to see the depths some Trump supporters will sink to.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

Just show me any footage of Trump supporters causing problems on a scale like those who support Bernie and Hillary.

You made the claim so instead of coming up with excuses put up or shut up.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: thesaneone

Here is 3 examples of the MANY I could have chosen from. You have your proof (as if it was needed in the first place), and I have no interest in listening to you make excuses for the terrible behaviour of Trump supporters. I am sure you have a bag of excuses waiting beside you to "lucky dip pick" from, yet I shall not be here to listen to them as I have more important things to do than argue with clearly deluded people.

Good day to you.





EDIT TO ADD:

From: edition.cnn.com...

Half-Indian man escorted out of Trump rally

A man who identified himself as half-Indian was escorted out of a Donald Trump rally on Thursday out of concern that he was a protester, but the man insisted he was a Trump supporter and said he feels that he was racially profiled.
Jake Anantha, an 18-year-old from Charlotte, was approached by a member of Trump's security team and then ushered out by police. He was told that he resembled another man who had previously disrupted Trump rallies.

"I told him I've never been to another rally in my life," Anantha said. "I'm a huge Trump supporter. I would never protest against Trump."
Anantha is a registered Republican, according to state voter records, who registered to vote in March. Anantha, who said he's a student at Central Piedmont Community College, was wearing a pro-Trump shirt with another pro-Trump shirt underneath.

"I do think it's because I'm brown," Anantha said, explaining why he believes he was kicked out. He added that he was "totally shocked."


This is the campaign you are supporting, one so racist that they even kick out their own supporters because they are a different colour. What a disgrace. How on Earth can you look at yourself in the mirror and say you support Trump when he and his supporters do things like this?


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posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 03:52 PM
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1. Do you intend to monitor the polling places on election day, looking for voter fraud? What would you look for? If you suspect voter fraud, what would you do? Have you familiarized yourself with the election laws in your state? (They vary from state to state.)


As if any of us had the resources for this. Besides, the major avenues of fraud cannot be seen by those outside the process (i.e. the programming of the Diebold machines, the inclusion of voters that would otherwise be unable to vote (such as traditional Dem voters, the dead and illegals).


2. How do you think Trump will react on election night as the media predicts a Clinton victory?


"It's rigged." (and he'd likely be correct.)


3. How do you think Trump would react if the election is officially called in Clinton's favor, although Trump had a larger share of the popular vote? Would he concede graciously? Would he contest it in the Supreme Court?


Pretty sure Trump understands how Electoral votes work. If he loses though, yes, I suspect he'd call for a recount.


4. How would you react? Would you shrug and say to yourself "ya win some, ya lose some," or would you take to the street?


It would simply confirm our worst fears. That the corruption is so deep, there's simply no return. Trump is packing arenas, Hillary is having to pay attendees at small venues. Just look at the poll on this site. It means we'll have 8 years of Hillary, because if she can rig it now, it will be even easier in 4 more years.


5. What if the Supreme Court, all of whom were appointed by the "mainstream" parties, ruled in Clinton's favor? How do you think Trump would react? How would you react?


See number 2.

Here's what will REALLY happen if Trump loses....

Within the first 4 years:

Most major firearms manufacturers will cease production in the private sector (military contracts only) due to legislation making it impossible for them to do business at a profit.

Minor tax increases on the middle class, huge tax increases on the wealthy, most of which will be skirted by exploiting loopholes and moving business out of the country (resulting in more unemployment).

Businesses doing massive layoffs as they can't afford ObamaCare, while insurance carriers drop ObamaCare like a hot potato...driving up non ObamaCare rates so high, that we may as well just pay cash any time we see the doc.

Russia will finally invade the Ukraine, as it knows Clinton won't do jack about it.

Iran will become an official nuclear weapons power.

Black Lives Matter will increase it's domestic terror operations and continue to create racial tensions, because the POTUS will refuse to classify it as such.

Within 8 years:

The 2nd Amendment will be all but abolished. Already weakened by legislation in the first 4 years. Nobody will be able to buy firearms, or ammo for them.

The 4th Amendment will exist, but in essence, have so many loopholes and caveats that it may as well not exist.

State and Local Police will be replaced by a Federalized police agency. (while our founding fathers roll over in their graves). (largely as a response to the instigated race riots)

So, slam on the gas pedal and let's kick it up to 100 and floor it on our way to the police state!



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

His challenge was:


Just show me any footage of Trump supporters causing problems on a scale like those who support Bernie and Hillary.


None of those examples come close to the scale of violence we've seen from anti-Trump demonstrators.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: Gazrok

Thank you for your answer. I respect most of the opinions you express in the first part of your answer, although I do not believe the general elections are "fixed." The Democratic Party was certainly biased in favor of Clinton, and worked to undercut Sanders. The general elections are too large and complex to be rigged system wide; that is why I have hopes for a breakthrough by third parties.


Here's what will REALLY happen if Trump loses....

Within the first 4 years:

Most major firearms manufacturers will cease production in the private sector (military contracts only) due to legislation making it impossible for them to do business at a profit.


Again, it will be very difficult to overthrow an amendment, and piecemeal legislation won't take the industry down.


Minor tax increases on the middle class, huge tax increases on the wealthy, most of which will be skirted by exploiting loopholes and moving business out of the country (resulting in more unemployment).


This is a possibility, but Trump's plan is worse.


Businesses doing massive layoffs as they can't afford ObamaCare, while insurance carriers drop ObamaCare like a hot potato...driving up non ObamaCare rates so high, that we may as well just pay cash any time we see the doc.


Clinton might now have the political capital to push for the "single payer option," which would address those problems.


Russia will finally invade the Ukraine, as it knows Clinton won't do jack about it.


The opposite is true; Clinton has an established track record as a hawk, standing up to Putin would boost her credibility, just as standing up to Argentina enhanced Thatcher's. Trump has already said that he would recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea. A Trump presidency would give Putin a green light to roll in to the Sawalki Gap. Trump would not hesitate to ignore his NATO obligations; he has said as much.


Iran will become an official nuclear weapons power.


They have been working on it for over forty years. There is a reason why they have never succeeded, and it has nothing to do with anything outside of Iran.


Black Lives Matter will increase it's domestic terror operations and continue to create racial tensions, because the POTUS will refuse to classify it as such.


Either that, or neighborhood outreach between police and minority communities will decrease the mutual mistrust.


Within 8 years:

The 2nd Amendment will be all but abolished. Already weakened by legislation in the first 4 years. Nobody will be able to buy firearms, or ammo for them.


Without a Constitutional Convention, not even a liberal SCOTUS would allow that.


The 4th Amendment will exist, but in essence, have so many loopholes and caveats that it may as well not exist.


That trend can only get worse under a "law and order" President who has counted on eminent domain to secure his wealth.


State and Local Police will be replaced by a Federalized police agency. (while our founding fathers roll over in their graves). (largely as a response to the instigated race riots)


Again, more likely under a "law and order" President who believes in torture ans "extreme vetting."


So, slam on the gas pedal and let's kick it up to 100 and floor it on our way to the police state!


I have no doubt that is Trump's agenda.



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 09:43 PM
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Hang in there, it's far from over. Trump's going to be called a genius by election day, he's a fast learner with a big heart. Hillary doesn't stand a chance, unless she cheats (just ask Bernie!).



posted on Aug, 19 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: FlyingFox
Dumbocrats seem inflexible in thinking or voter allegiance. They think the Democrats are the party of Kennedy. I say that today, they are, in fact, the exact ones who killed JFK.


At least they still have a party. The Republicans used to think they were the party of Lincoln. Thanks to Donald Trump, they are now the party of the KKK.

Normally, I would ignore this sort of off topic comment, but attempts to give Trump supporters an opportunity to express their reactions to the near certainty of a Trump loss have failed.


"party of the KKK"


You are either woefully ignorant or have a twisted sense of humor:




Donald Trump has made people like David Duke feel as if they’re no longer on the fringes. Before the Republican National Convention, former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke was thinking about running for Congress against House Republican Whip Steve Scalise of Louisiana (who in turn once sold himself to voters as “David Duke without the baggage”). Way back in early July, he linked his interest in elected office to Trump’s success in the GOP primary.
“I’ve said everything that Donald Trump is saying and more,” Duke told The Daily Beast. “I think Trump is riding a wave of anti-establishment feeling that I’ve been nurturing for 25 years.”

Now, after observing the RNC’s four-day cavalcade of racial incitement, Duke has upped the ante. On Friday, he announced he’ll be running for Senate instead. In distinctly Trumpian terms, he explained, “With the country coming apart at the seams and no one willing to really speak the truth about what is happening, the majority population in this country needs someone who will actually give voice to their interests.” Trump didn’t make a specific allusion to the “majority population” (i.e. white people) in his address, but his premise was that leaders haven’t been providing “a straightforward assessment of the state of our nation,” and went on to identify its core problems as urban crime, Mexican immigration, and Muslim terrorists.

“I’m overjoyed to see Donald Trump and most Americans embrace most of the issues that I’ve championed for years,” Duke said. “My slogan remains America first.” (America First, a reference to Charles Lindbergh’s “America First Committee” that accused Jews of driving the country into World War II, is also Trump’s slogan.)


A staunchly Republican magazine.

Here I was, trying to give Trump supporters a chance to show that they are not filled with hatred and vitriol... and look what this thread got dragged down into.


You should learn your history if you want to assign hateful individuals as a problem for their party. From Wiki:

See: Robert Byrd (D) in office from January 3, 1959 – June 28, 2010
He was the longest-serving U.S. Senator and, at the time of his death, the longest-serving member in the history of the United States Congress.


Ku Klux Klan Edit
In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan in Sophia, West Virginia.[12][13]

According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, "You have a talent for leadership, Bob ... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation." Byrd later recalled, "Suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did."[19] Byrd became a recruiter and leader of his chapter.[13] When it came time to elect the top officer (Exalted Cyclops) in the local Klan unit, Byrd won unanimously.[13]

In December 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore G. Bilbo:

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944[13][20]
In 1946, Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."[21] However, when running for the United States House of Representatives in 1952, he announced "After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization. During the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan." He said he had joined the Klan because he felt it offered excitement and was anti-communist.[13]

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