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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Yep.
It shows her double digit bump from last week is on a fast and furious downward trend.
Going from a ten plus point lead down to a mere five point lead in just a week is devasting for Hillary considering there is till 12 weeks to go.
originally posted by: Logarock
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: whyamIhere
I hope so. That would shake things up. Maybe even force the Republicans to update their message finally. If not, then the Libertarian party can always replace the Republican party. Though it would have to
get a bit more moderate.
Even though it may not look good for Trump, to say what you just said after what the democrats lost in the last two elections, even though Obama gained a second term, looks to me like you are not very astute at this. Just a rampage liberal that cant really read the cards.
Trump and the Libertarians signal disgust with the Democrats. Libertarians are certainly closer to constitutionalists than they are disgruntled liberals.
originally posted by: Logarock
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
But yes if in the end Trump doesn't get elected, I will admit I was wrong.
You have no idea how happy it makes me to see a Trump supporter not try to shoehorn in the "the elections will be rigged" argument.
Yea wow had belly full of that from liberals during the Bush years. Bush stole this Bush stole that. WOW.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Krazysh0t
If you are going to rely on a major media event to shift American attitudes towards Trump, you better at least acknowledge that the event would have to happen domestically. An international event, with Trump's temperament and quick to anger attitude, won't be winning much additional support from his crisis management to it.
I rely more on the media to shift American attitudes away from Trump. Yes a domestic event (such as riots and looting in Milwaukee), terrorist attack, or scandal, though dreadful, can only help a law and order candidate.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
This poll doesn't mean a thing, because Jill Stein will not be on every ballot in America, so including her, IMO, skews the results and makes it a pointless poll, regardless as to what percentage she received or from which candidate her support came.
Plus, polls this early still really mean squat--wait for the debates, and I bet both of their numbers start declining.
Being the outrageous focus of attention is all Trump knows.
His reality show shtick worked in the primary season, appealing to voters desperate for change and strength.
But as he gets closer to the presidency, a broader electorate is deciding how much risk Trump’s vulgarity, vapidity, and vexing disregard for the truth are worth.
When his grossly inflated self-image is undercut by reality, he tries more of his insane same. More provocation. More exaggeration. More extremism.
A fairy tale wrapped in hyperbole and covered in lies, this fragile man who insists on being called “Mr. Trump” is spiraling downward like an addict reaching for a dirty needle. It may be his last, but he can’t live without it.
if Trump isn’t going to even pretend to be vetting his sources and fact-checking his arguments, then the press isn’t going to pretend to believe what he’s saying.
Trump's other gift [besides being undeniably fun to watch and entertaining] — the one that gets less attention but is perhaps more important — is his complete lack of shame.
It's easy to underestimate how important shame is in American politics. But shame is our most powerful restraint on politicians who would find success through demagoguery. Most people feel shame when they're exposed as liars, when they're seen as uninformed, when their behavior is thought cruel, when respected figures in their party condemn their actions, when experts dismiss their proposals, when they are mocked and booed and protested.
Trump doesn't. He has the reality television star's ability to operate entirely without shame, and that permits him to operate entirely without restraint. It is the single scariest facet of his personality. It is the one that allows him to go where others won't, to say what others can't, to do what others wouldn't.
originally posted by: ownbestenemy1
I love the sense of irony here. Some things to note: Gravis marketing conducting the polling. Gravis in 2014 earned the prestigious award of most botched poll. Gravis' methods are....not that great.
Again though, love the irony presented.
Political junkies have been yukking it up since last Tuesday over a Gravis Marketing poll that got a Maryland congressional race wrong by 96 — yes, 96 — percentage points. The Gravis survey, conducted in January, showed primary challenger Michael Smigiel leading Rep. Andy Harris by 29 percentage points in their Republican primary contest; Smigiel actually lost by 67 percentage points, 78 percent to 11 percent.
originally posted by: Nucleardoom
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Kali74
Yeah. I probably got better odds than Trump winning the election at this point.
Umm, no. Please put the crack pipe down as it's making you look foolish again.