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originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
"This hole must've been designed and tuned just for me", said the puddle.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
"This hole must've been designed and tuned just for me", said the puddle.
Said the puddle, hmm, why does that sound like a strawman argument
A puddle with a mind, that can't be right?
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
"This hole must've been designed and tuned just for me", said the puddle.
Said the puddle, hmm, why does that sound like a strawman argument
A puddle with a mind, that can't be right?
...said the creationist.
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
"This hole must've been designed and tuned just for me", said the puddle.
Also, in this case life isn't just an accident that happened to survive the maelstrom of creation, but is a byproduct of the whole process, or in other words, the universe is friendly to the life we experience and know.
originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: flyingfish
You seem to see life as some sort of accident or artifact or great fluke, and fail to recognize that in terms of evolution and complexity, the whole thing
forms an arrow that has indeed fostered life as we know it, including stellar and galactic formation. The whole universe is in fact friendly to this life we know, or we wouldn't be here.
I'm inviting you to look at it holistically, with the earth and life on earth as a culmination of the entire process arising from initial conditions which through a long chain of causes contained this present reality imbedded right into it from the get go, not unlike a seed of life which is framed by well, the whole thing and in particular our own earth-moon-sun and solar system configuration, which by extension includes the formation of our entire galaxy which must also include the entire cosmos by extension.
Thus, instead of seeing the whole as some sort of mindless, aimless, random process, we behold a miracle of creation unto the very Godhead, which is on display, with our own observation inextricably interwoven into it. It's absolutely astonishing and awe inspiring that it's even here when particles and antiparticles should have annihilated each other right at the beginning, if not for the fine-tuning the outcome of which was anticipated.
originally posted by: flyingfish
a reply to: Raggedyman
The point of the puddle analogy is, whatever the conditions are, in any universe, whatever evolved just adapted to existing conditions, it would think that it was fine tuned with that result in mind.
Life has evolved to survive the Universe. You are a puddle who is foolishly insisting that the tiny pothole it rests in must have been designed specifically for it, because it fits so well.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: flyingfish
a reply to: Raggedyman
The point of the puddle analogy is, whatever the conditions are, in any universe, whatever evolved just adapted to existing conditions, it would think that it was fine tuned with that result in mind.
Life has evolved to survive the Universe. You are a puddle who is foolishly insisting that the tiny pothole it rests in must have been designed specifically for it, because it fits so well.
Yeah, I think it's foolish that you think you can demand I think like you do
This world is certainly more complex than a hole and we are certainly more complex than a puddle but whatever floats your boat
Please stop your preaching, you are like a Mormon missionary knocking on doors
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TzarChasm
What, like many atheists before judgement
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
"This hole must've been designed and tuned just for me", said the puddle.
Said the puddle, hmm, why does that sound like a strawman argument
A puddle with a mind, that can't be right?
...said the creationist.
As a reply to an atheist argument where a puddle thinks
Can I see some empirical evidence or do you evolutionist just accept a puddle can think.
Is it logical that awareness came before life, rocks water had thought before abiogenesis or whatever you believe in this year
Is puddles thinking now an accepted theory, any papers, any evidence
It's to easy, it's good for a laugh
It's a religion of faith
originally posted by: GetHyped
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
"This hole must've been designed and tuned just for me", said the puddle.
Said the puddle, hmm, why does that sound like a strawman argument
A puddle with a mind, that can't be right?
...said the creationist.
As a reply to an atheist argument where a puddle thinks
Can I see some empirical evidence or do you evolutionist just accept a puddle can think.
Is it logical that awareness came before life, rocks water had thought before abiogenesis or whatever you believe in this year
Is puddles thinking now an accepted theory, any papers, any evidence
It's to easy, it's good for a laugh
It's a religion of faith
Oh my goodness, I know you get fixated on literal interpretations but are you really not familiar with the concept of an analogy??
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: GetHyped
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
"This hole must've been designed and tuned just for me", said the puddle.
Said the puddle, hmm, why does that sound like a strawman argument
A puddle with a mind, that can't be right?
...said the creationist.
As a reply to an atheist argument where a puddle thinks
Can I see some empirical evidence or do you evolutionist just accept a puddle can think.
Is it logical that awareness came before life, rocks water had thought before abiogenesis or whatever you believe in this year
Is puddles thinking now an accepted theory, any papers, any evidence
It's to easy, it's good for a laugh
It's a religion of faith
Oh my goodness, I know you get fixated on literal interpretations but are you really not familiar with the concept of an analogy??
Oh my goodness, I know some people can get fixated on literal interpretations are you really not familiar with the concept of humor
originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: flyingfish
or your mean-spiritedness in the way you relate to your fellow man who meant no ill will.