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Mandela Effect: I come from an Earth where evolution took a slightly different turn

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posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: JDeLattre89

You didnt know there were 2 bones in the lower leg ?




posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Greggers

Everything that is Tech is the same in this reality CPR was done the same way, the center of the chest was more muscular and flexed,but not enough to cause damage.The chest area was allot stronger than it looked from just the skeleton. You could pump all day and the heart and the lungs would not be damaged.

The thing is everyone who exists or existed then exists or existed here , you existed then ,i do not think this is a different reality per say i think this is what the previous one turned into. I think some people do not realize it because the matter that makes up their brain is from this current reality and in this reality their brain and body are what they turned into. I think those who are noticing are remembering on a spiritual level.



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: ZenHorse

What about the 'parallel' skeleton legs? You can't walk without fibula.
What about the weird tiny sacral bones? You would have tremendous damage with such deformity, even paralysis.

The parallel skeleton would have to have both lower legs amputated or spend his/her life in a weelchair. Is that how people mobilized in your universe?



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: ZenHorse

What about the 'parallel' skeleton legs? You can't walk without fibula.
What about the weird tiny sacral bones? You would have tremendous damage with such deformity, even paralysis.

The parallel skeleton would have to have both lower legs amputated or spend his/her life in a weelchair. Is that how people mobilized in your universe?



I think they should change the name of the Mandela Effect to, "Stuff I've Been Horribly Wrong about all my Life and Didn't Know It."



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: ZenHorse
a reply to: Greggers

Everything that is Tech is the same in this reality CPR was done the same way, the center of the chest was more muscular and flexed,but not enough to cause damage.The chest area was allot stronger than it looked from just the skeleton. You could pump all day and the heart and the lungs would not be damaged.

The thing is everyone who exists or existed then exists or existed here , you existed then ,i do not think this is a different reality per say i think this is what the previous one turned into. I think some people do not realize it because the matter that makes up their brain is from this current reality and in this reality their brain and body are what they turned into. I think those who are noticing are remembering on a spiritual level.



I guess there must not be any spiritual doctors then.... since none of them have endorsed these changes.

I guess there must not be any spiritual astronomers then... since none of them have endorsed the changes to the cosmos.

There must not be any spiritual physicists then, since clearly physics was different in your timeline if you could walk with those legs and if your mind was somehow the same inside that brain cavity.

Seems like the only spiritual people are the ones who didn't know much about any of this stuff to begin with.



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: ZenHorse

you existed then



No I didn't.



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: Greggers

Yes you did everyone else in the world did ,ether this world transformed into this reality or there is a version of you with a open ribcage arguing that unified ribcage's don't exist and there is no evidence.



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: Greggers

I sure they would and have noticed ,just that your putting the body before the soul,everyones mind and body is from this reality. In this reality it has been that ways for a million years (or since Babylon what ever you prescribe to)
just like like their brain and their brain from this reality went to Med school and took exams and did everything that this reality says that it did.

What I am saying is the the entire reality is secondary ,i could take your soul and put it in a reality where everyone has six fingers and your mind would say "Humans always had six fingers" and their would be no "evidence" with people without six fingers in paintings from 100's of years ago every photograph etc all the medical books etc What would you say then ,i am sure from what i have seen they are many but they are not going to say anything,the average professional in not going to against the grain,i you haven't noticed only a handful of researcher's will ever challenge any long held beliefs in any field.


Many physicists say just that ,there are multidimensional possibilities,even Stephan Hawking.

Ether there are versions of everybody in all of them or our souls are the same and the reality changes around us,or we can have a merger of them,as wall as other variations.
I believe in the uniqueness of the soul so I am leaning to like I said my main current theory is everything changed around us ,and from what i have seen many people i have talked to have had the same exact memories,and i am not talking cereal names and movie lines.

Admittedly i am not a Medical professional or a physicist but i can understand these things ,the differences are pretty glaring,and for every one to remember the exact things that are different is mathematically impossible under scrutiny and test conditions,and i am not talking about the obvious semantic arguments where pronunciations are from slang and "Modern English" ,although i believe some of them are true also i tend not to argue those points.



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: ZenHorse
Yes you did everyone else in the world did ,ether this world transformed into this reality or there is a version of you with a open ribcage arguing that unified ribcage's don't exist and there is no evidence.

If evolution had changed, the probability of me existing in the alternate reality are precisely nil.

The building blocks, that I am currently made of, wouldn't exist in your reality.



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: ZenHorse


What about the 'parallel' skeleton legs? You can't walk without fibula.
What about the weird tiny sacral bones? You would have tremendous damage with such deformity, even paralysis.

The parallel skeleton would have to have both lower legs amputated or spend his/her life in a weelchair. Is that how people mobilized in your universe?



I was noticing the rib cage mostly but i thought the other guy who pointed it out was right there were not 2 bones in the lower leg below the knees only the forearm had 2 twisting bones.

It is a very good likeness over all of the previous reality without a chart to go in though i would of strained my memory do do as good of a job.

As far as i can recall it was all muscle much like it is now The Achilles Tendon did all the work ,that truthfully surprised me when i learned about it when i was younger,but i could lift everything and carry everything and had no coordination problems,all the same athletics and vocations were done with every excess like now.It was obliviously one of the vulnerable spots of the body but ruptures and tears were not that common ,not many like you would think,i can not think of a damaged Achilles Tendon in any NFL players lot of other tears and leg muscle things though.

I bet there are allot of broken Fibula's in the current configuration.

"
The Achilles tendon or heel cord, also known as the calcaneal tendon (Latin: Tendo calcaneus), is a tendon of the back of the leg, and the thickest in the human body. It serves to attach the plantaris, gastrocnemius (calf) and soleus muscles to the calcaneus (heel) bone. These muscles, acting via the tendon, cause plantar flexion of the foot at the ankle, and flexion at the knee.
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The sacral bones ? I do not see how that would make a difference. The False Ribs were definitely not there as well as the smaller points protruding out of the lower spinal column.



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: peck420

originally posted by: ZenHorse
Yes you did everyone else in the world did ,ether this world transformed into this reality or there is a version of you with a open ribcage arguing that unified ribcage's don't exist and there is no evidence.

If evolution had changed, the probability of me existing in the alternate reality are precisely nil.

The building blocks, that I am currently made of, wouldn't exist in your reality.


What you are calling "Building Blocks" i assume you mean molecules and atoms or the entire periodic table, no they all seem to be the same and existed there,this reality is a possibility all the natural occurring elements are the same water was and is now in this reality H2o and so on. The molecular building blocks are the same.



posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: ZenHorse

I sure they would and have noticed ,just that your putting the body before the soul,everyones mind and body is from this reality. In this reality it has been that ways for a million years (or since Babylon what ever you prescribe to)
just like like their brain and their brain from this reality went to Med school and took exams and did everything that this reality says that it did.

So why not send chimps to med school? Could it be because the brain as it evolved in this reality in human beings is capable of such feats, whereas a chimp's brain is not? Yes. Obviously that's why. Our gray matter is responsible for our cognitive ability.

Whatever gray matter you had in the alternate timeline, not so much. It looks like a primate skeleton, and within animals of the same type, size is a mostly reliable indicator of relative intelligence. So, those of you from the alternate timeline look to me like you would have been struggling to get out of the trees.



What I am saying is the the entire reality is secondary

I'm sorry, but the only reality empirically proven to have ever existed is not secondary. It is primary.



,i could take your soul and put it in a reality where everyone has six fingers

You could?



and your mind would say "Humans always had six fingers" and their would be no "evidence" with people without six fingers in paintings from 100's of years ago every photograph etc all the medical books etc

This is an unfalsifiable fairy tale, and a totally unconvincing argument.



What would you say then ,i am sure from what i have seen they are many but they are not going to say anything,the average professional in not going to against the grain,i you haven't noticed only a handful of researcher's will ever challenge any long held beliefs in any field.


So your explanation as to why experts aren't corroborating your findings is just as unfalsifiable as the theory itself....



Many physicists say just that ,there are multidimensional possibilities,even Stephan Hawking.

The thinly supported many-worlds hypothesis is untestable, unfalsifiable (at present and quite possibly forever), but even if we pretend it's well supported by empirical evidence, many-worlds is a FAR CRY from "Hey, I just realized I've been mistaken about a bunch of stuff my whole life, so I must be from a completely different reality."




Ether there are versions of everybody in all of them or our souls are the same and the reality changes around us,or we can have a merger of them,as wall as other variations.
I believe in the uniqueness of the soul so I am leaning to like I said my main current theory is everything changed around us ,and from what i have seen many people i have talked to have had the same exact memories,and i am not talking cereal names and movie lines.

I see no support for any of this whatsoever. Since we're in skunk works, that's cool.
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posted on Sep, 9 2016 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: ZenHorse
a reply to: Greggers

Yes you did



So it's not enough for you to invent an alternate reality for yourself... now you have to invent one for me too?
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posted on Sep, 10 2016 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: Greggers
I think they should change the name of the Mandela Effect to, "Stuff I've Been Horribly Wrong about all my Life and Didn't Know It."


LOL I think that would be a more fitting name for it!

I'm still waiting for a doctor to cancel a surgery because the kidneys are in the wrong place, or a pilot to put the wrong co-ordinates for a flight because of their 'other timeline' memories.





originally posted by: ZenHorse
I was noticing the rib cage mostly but i thought the other guy who pointed it out was right there were not 2 bones in the lower leg below the knees only the forearm had 2 twisting bones.

It is a very good likeness over all of the previous reality without a chart to go in though i would of strained my memory do do as good of a job.

As far as i can recall it was all muscle much like it is now The Achilles Tendon did all the work ,that truthfully surprised me when i learned about it when i was younger,but i could lift everything and carry everything and had no coordination problems,all the same athletics and vocations were done with every excess like now.It was obliviously one of the vulnerable spots of the body but ruptures and tears were not that common ,not many like you would think,i can not think of a damaged Achilles Tendon in any NFL players lot of other tears and leg muscle things though.


You cannot walk without the fibula as it not only supports the tibia, it also stabilizes the ankle and supports the muscles of the lower leg. You need the fibula. Extra muscle cannot do what the fibula does. Children who are born without fibulas have both lower legs amputated. Oscar Pistorious is a famous example.


I bet there are allot of broken Fibula's in the current configuration.


Fractures can be fixed. Missing fibula means amputation of the lower leg.


"The Achilles tendon or heel cord, also known as the calcaneal tendon (Latin: Tendo calcaneus), is a tendon of the back of the leg, and the thickest in the human body. It serves to attach the plantaris, gastrocnemius (calf) and soleus muscles to the calcaneus (heel) bone. These muscles, acting via the tendon, cause plantar flexion of the foot at the ankle, and flexion at the knee.


The Achille's tendon attaches muscles to the heel bone. A tendon, such as the Achille one, would never be able to support the tibia and the lower legs muscles. We are talking about impossible anatomy.


The sacral bones ? I do not see how that would make a difference. T


You don't see it because you don't have the medical education/ knowledge to see it, which is why you don't see anything wrong in the 'parallel' skeleton.

The sacral bones in the 'parallel' skeleton are really really small. When this deformity occurs in this timeline people usually experience damage to the nerves that come from the spinal cord and exist at the sacrum. This damage can have all sort of negative effects, ranging from constipation, incontinence and even limbs paralysis.


from what i have seen many people i have talked to have had the same exact memories,and i am not talking cereal names and movie lines.


So you all come from exactly the same dimension then?

edit on 10-9-2016 by Agartha because: Spelling...



posted on Sep, 10 2016 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Greggers

All those ribs are connected in the front.

Thats pop culture from this dimension Yo



posted on Sep, 10 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: ZenHorse
a reply to: Greggers

All those ribs are connected in the front.

Thats pop culture from this dimension Yo


How many alternate-dimensional selves do you have? And how many more can we expect?
edit on 10-9-2016 by Greggers because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 10 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha

originally posted by: Greggers
I think they should change the name of the Mandela Effect to, "Stuff I've Been Horribly Wrong about all my Life and Didn't Know It."


LOL I think that would be a more fitting name for it!

I'm still waiting for a doctor to cancel a surgery because the kidneys are in the wrong place, or a pilot to put the wrong co-ordinates for a flight because of their 'other timeline' memories.




originally posted by: ZenHorse
I was noticing the rib cage mostly but i thought the other guy who pointed it out was right there were not 2 bones in the lower leg below the knees only the forearm had 2 twisting bones.

It is a very good likeness over all of the previous reality without a chart to go in though i would of strained my memory do do as good of a job.

As far as i can recall it was all muscle much like it is now The Achilles Tendon did all the work ,that truthfully surprised me when i learned about it when i was younger,but i could lift everything and carry everything and had no coordination problems,all the same athletics and vocations were done with every excess like now.It was obliviously one of the vulnerable spots of the body but ruptures and tears were not that common ,not many like you would think,i can not think of a damaged Achilles Tendon in any NFL players lot of other tears and leg muscle things though.


You cannot walk without the fibula as it not only supports the tibia, it also stabilizes the ankle and supports the muscles of the lower leg. You need the fibula. Extra muscle cannot do what the fibula does. Children who are born without fibulas have both lower legs amputated. Oscar Pistorious is a famous example.


I bet there are allot of broken Fibula's in the current configuration.


Fractures can be fixed. Missing fibula means amputation of the lower leg.


"The Achilles tendon or heel cord, also known as the calcaneal tendon (Latin: Tendo calcaneus), is a tendon of the back of the leg, and the thickest in the human body. It serves to attach the plantaris, gastrocnemius (calf) and soleus muscles to the calcaneus (heel) bone. These muscles, acting via the tendon, cause plantar flexion of the foot at the ankle, and flexion at the knee.


The Achille's tendon attaches muscles to the heel bone. A tendon, such as the Achille one, would never be able to support the tibia and the lower legs muscles. We are talking about impossible anatomy.


The sacral bones ? I do not see how that would make a difference. T


You don't see it because you don't have the medical education/ knowledge to see it, which is why you don't see anything wrong in the 'parallel' skeleton.

The sacral bones in the 'parallel' skeleton are really really small. When this deformity occurs in this timeline people usually experience damage to the nerves that come from the spinal cord and exist at the sacrum. This damage can have all sort of negative effects, ranging from constipation, incontinence and even limbs paralysis.


from what i have seen many people i have talked to have had the same exact memories,and i am not talking cereal names and movie lines.


So you all come from exactly the same dimension then?


None of that applies the the previous dimensional reality we were in apparently because people walked and ran around just fine.The spine was not as large or wide as well.

After living a lifetime familiarizing your self with general things like everyone does in their life,while not being a doctor I am sure i would of known if the ribs were open or closed in like a cage in the front ,not brain surgery.that and i have a set in both realities .

Nothings in the wrong place for this dimension .....but this is not the same dimension I lived most of my life in.

Weather everyone that is saying they are noticing the change is from the same previous reality is a good question ......Most seem to be ... Ether that or were like Charlton Heston standing in front of your Statue of Liberty.



posted on Sep, 10 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: ZenHorse

None of that applies the the previous dimensional reality we were in apparently because people walked and ran around just fine.The spine was not as large or wide as well.


Then physics was different. Which means your reality would have been REALLY different than the sort of stuff you've described.



i would of known if the ribs were open or closed in like a cage in the front

Evidently not.



Ether that or were like Charlton Heston standing in front of your Statue of Liberty.

You mean like a work of fiction?
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posted on Sep, 10 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: JDeLattre89
How come the 'parallel' picture is the one that appears right to me?


It appears mostly right to me but the knees need ball joints or they can't move the kneecap, and I remember them always being there. Also the legs always had the smaller bone not just the one.

The ribs seem wrong on the now, the stomach I remember as just below the ribs some people are saying they remember it way down in the lower abdomen seems very unreasonable place for it.



posted on Sep, 10 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: ZenHorse
a reply to: Greggers

All those ribs are connected in the front.

Thats pop culture from this dimension Yo


How many alternate-dimensional selves do you have? And how many more can we expect?


Just sorting it out now ....seeing how your smarter than Stephan Hawking ....

You were there or a version of you was seeing how everybody else was ......No one around me doesn't exist now that existed in the previous reality ,that includes everyone in history ...seems to be to only constant ... the variations of history are only slight ,,,but the geographical differences and apparently the human organs and skeletal structure are quite different or to say a different quantum possibility ...all the basic periodic elements are the same so far as i have seen ....I can grasp nuclear weapons and the splitting of the atom and Oppenheimer and project Manhattan and allot of other history was basically the same with and i was familiar enough with basic human anatomy to assure you just like what you take for granted here everyone took for granted the ribcage was not connected in the fashion in is in this reality ...no PHD required.



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