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Originally posted by Byrd
NB: I stopped with three examples. I can easily find a hundred or more current examples.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
What is the difference between Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam and all abortion doctors.............nothing, they are all mass murderers.........
Originally posted by riddle930
This is another basic problem. Extremists tend to forget that such statements were provided for a people at war, to guide their survival, and so they do not necessarily apply literally today!
Anyways... keep em coming glad to answer any more questions
Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
Riddle930
You make some very good counter-points and I appreciate your position.
Part of the problem, as I see it, is that most "moderate" Muslims, such as yourself, seem to be very quiet on these issues we've been discussing. They seem either unable or unwilling to aswer some of the questions that we've touch upon here. In fact, the best opportunity presented the "moderate" majority would seem to be CAIR (Council on American-Islmaic Relationships) here in the US. However, instead of broaching these difficult subjects in a healthy way, they instead label those like me, who ask these tough questions, as "Islamophobes" or "hate inciters" and use the legal system in an attempt to silence or squash us and our opinions. This doesn't help your cause. In fact it cripples the positions held by moderate Islamic beliefs and further bolsters "Islamophobes" view that there is something more sinister with your religion.
Care to comment?
Originally posted by Rubber
Drhoracid, you are as much of a zealot as any of the Islamic fanatics are.
as for casting off religion completely, would not that make science a religion?
Just my opinion,
Rubber
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Originally posted by Rubber
Drhoracid, you are as much of a zealot as any of the Islamic fanatics are.
as for casting off religion completely, would not that make science a religion?
Just my opinion,
Rubber
The problem is that the "radical mullah's" are the one's in charge and always will be in charge. Peaceful muslims are just that.peaceful. They can't or won't "fight" the radical elements. Christians have the same "flaw". Today there are so many things that "qualify" as a religion.