very intereting stuff you got there Freedom_for_sum..
the translation you got for sura 2 - 135 is actually more accurate, however, as the Quoran is originally written in arabic, exact translation can
often lead to a slight change in meaning. Even when read in arabic, the Quoran requires a very high mastering of the language to correctly interpret
I do not claim i have the required skill in arabic, although it is my mother tongue! however, i do my readings.
I got (for the sake of this argument!) a copy of the original saudi arabian explanation of the Quoran, and would like to demonstrate to you the
potential problems that can arise from literal translation.
www.Islam.com is supposedly a trusted source! Infact, thats the first place i looked when u told me bout the passage from sura 5 - 51. Frankly, i was
amazed at the translation they had, they had as translation:
"51. O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And
he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust."
That really got me thinking... so i went back to the Saudi arabian explanation... and they had something slightly different...
"O those who believe, do not take the jews and christians as allies OVER YOUR OWN PEOPLE, that is because they do not have your best interests in
mind. For jews support jews, and christians support christians, and hence, you should also start supporting each other (other muslims). And whoever
allies with them WILL INEVITABLY BE AFFECTED AND BIASED BY THEIR JUDGEMENT, and hence will lose track of your (the muslims) best interests, and will
eventually become one of them. God does not guide those who are biased and unjust."
You see.. to me,, this makes a bit more sense, and hopefully it will do to you too. If your interested, the main problem sprouted from the correct
translation of the arabic word " Awlia'a ". The online translations put it up as "friends and protectors" but it actually means.. in this
Hence, it makes perfect sense that god tells muslims not to take jews and christians as their allies, for if you recall, at the time,, everyone was at
was with everyone else, so such a statement makes but perfect sense... AT THE TIME.
This is another basic problem. Extremists tend to forget that such statements were provided for a people at war, to guide their survival, and so they
do not necessarily apply literally today!
Anyways... keep em coming glad to answer any more questions
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