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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 02:00 PM by DrHoracid



www.lexnotes.com...

One more thing....I am not a Neo-con. They are too liberal for me......

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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 02:24 PM by dbates
Originally posted by DrHoracid
"What does the Arabic word jihad mean?
jihad is "holy war." Or, more precisely: It means the legal, compulsory, communal effort to expand the territories ruled by Muslims at the expense of territories ruled by non-Muslims. "

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Daniel Pipes. He has quite a nice weblog. I enjoy reading it from time to time. If you haven't had a chance to browse his site I'd recommend starting with this article. Calling Islamism the Enemy (Since if flows with this topic) Some of the quotes he posted really surprised me.


"they (Islamists) hope to transform that anger into a force that will topple the region's governments and pave the way for a new empire, an oppressive, fundamentalist superstate stretching across a vast area from Europe to Africa, from the Middle East to Central Asia."

- John F. Kerry


Terrorism is simply a weapon used by certain groups, and not the problem itself. The war on Terror is no less than a war against radical Islam. What is radical Islam? It could be said that radical Islam is made up of those who interpret the Koran literally. In this form of religion, women have little if any rights. Non-Muslims are tolerated to a certain point, but also have restricted rights. Any attempt to publicly practice a religion other than Islam could result in imprisonment. Not closing your shop during prayer time can land you in jail, or result in a beating. I lived in Saudi Arabia for 4 months and have seen all of this first hand. It's not just something I read about in the news.

What the West wants is to eliminate this form of Islam and set up governments that practice a more watered-down version of Islam. A government where women citizens don't need to cover their heads, and you are free to pray or not to pray as you wish. Muslims shouldn't take this personally. Western governments have succeeded in watering down Christianity to the point where it has almost no place in Europe and it's influence in the U.S. is declining.

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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 02:44 PM by Simulacra
Originally posted by DrHoracid



Ah, look how cute he is with his little junior suicide bomb pack. Look, they even made him a special Hamas headband. Cute!

Islam as well as most other religions are filled with contradictions. However, I do want to say this. Islam was established on the peaceful treatment of human beings. It was also based on a Sadomasochism relationship with humans and a 'creator'.

Three step method to justify any action under the banner of Islam:
The word Muslim means 'slave'. The purpose of a muslims life is to be a slave to 'Allah'. Therefore, whatever Allah says muslims must do.


reply posted on 22-1-2005 @ 06:52 AM by Souljah
Originally posted by sandge
Christianity is a religion of love and forgiveness, not hatred and oppression. I wouldn't dream of blaming all Muslims for the acts of a few extremists; please don't use that particular brush on us Christians.

love and forgivness?
just a few history points:
-crusades
-european inquisition (burn the heretics!)
-american inquisition of the indians nation (more of a genocide)
...all in the name of christianity, in the name of the father, the son and the holy ghost. i do not find those history points loving and forgiving. there were only two options: take our religion, or die. now that is not very forgiving, nor loving to me. i wonder how people looked in that times at christianity. probably with great fear and obedience.
and that is very easy to do. just use religion for your political goals.
i belive that all religions are good in essence; their holy books have great knowledge and wisdom in them.
but as always every text can be interpreted in diffrent way.
and used in diffrent ways.
you can use them to spread peace and love,
or to spread war and terror.

Religion being a matter of the will, it cannot be forced on anyone; in this matter it is better to employ words than blows [verbis melius quam verberibus res agenda est]. Of what use is cruelty? What has the rack to do with piety? Surely there is no connection between truth and violence, between justice and cruelty . . . . It is true that nothing is so important as religion, and one must defend it at any cost [summâ vi] . . . It is true that it must be protected, but by dying for it, not by killing others; by long-suffering, not by violence; by faith, not by crime. If you attempt to defend religion with bloodshed and torture, what you do is not defense, but desecration and insult. For nothing is so intrinsically a matter of free will as religion.
(Divine Institutes V:20)
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