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originally posted by: pthena
My ex-fiancé had a habit of not taking responsibility for things,......
You analogy is someone asking you to perform a task you cannot understand and then when you attempt to do so they blame you for doing it wrong.
If that is what you mean that is definitely not what I have been stating at all.
originally posted by: pthena
I did not intend it to be taken as the same motive operating. I'm not implying that you're foisting blame. The story was to give meaning to hand out with nothing visible or tangible in it. That mental picture.
The concept of "Creator" is empty for me. I don't believe there is a creator in either theist or deist(great architect) understanding. Therefore all that is claimed as coming from such is also empty of meaning to me. That's pretty much what I meant.
The Bob Marley song: He could have been directing it to the Babylon of Rastafarian teaching (decadent society including Christianity) or to the Rastafarians since he got baptized as a Christian or to Pagans with their Sun and Moon and Rain and Stars. But the person saying "To deny me for simplicity" implies someone like a creator with a claim, and simplicity could be something like heathen.That's why I thought the song fit this thread. A creator talking to people, sort of the premise of the whole series of threads.But then maybe I just don't understand the song at all. Google didn't give me any link to an explanation.
originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: Rex282
You must have shared that song once before, I remember seeing it. If I remember correctly my interpretation had to do with change of viewpoint concerning the river's edge (which doesn't change)
Rescue me from the rivers edge
Carry me (back) to the rivers edge
I made my peace with the rivers edge
And there's a savior that the person is addressing throughout.
Isaiah 2:12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:
Yeah it represents two distinct times one in the past and one in the future.
There is a lot towards the end of the chapter that has yet to take place and in the next chapter too.
Humility is the quality of being humble. In a religious context this can mean a recognition of self in relation to God or deities, acceptance of one's defects, and submission to divine grace as a member of a religion. Outside of a religious context, humility is defined as the self-restraint from excessive vanity, and can possess moral and/or ethical dimensions.
HumilityHumility, in various interpretations, is widely seen as a virtue in many religious and philosophical traditions, often in contrast to narcissism, hubris and other forms of pride.
1Let us fear therefore, lest perhaps anyone of you should seem to have come short of a promise of entering into his rest. 2For indeed we have had good news preached to us, even as they also did, but the word they heard didn't profit them, because it wasn't mixed with faith by those who heard.
3For we who have believed do enter into that rest, even as he has said, "As I swore in my wrath, they will not enter into my rest;" although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4For he has said this somewhere about the seventh day, "God rested on the seventh day from all his works;" 5and in this place again, "They will not enter into my rest." 6Seeing therefore it remains that some should enter therein, and they to whom the good news was before preached failed to enter in because of disobedience,
7he again defines a certain day, today, saying through David so long a time afterward (just as has been said), "Today if you will hear his voice, don't harden your hearts."
8For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken afterward of another day. 9There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10For he who has entered into his rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from his. 11Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, lest anyone fall after the same example of disobedience.
Hyperbole may also be used for instances of such exaggerations for emphasis or effect. Hyperboles are often used in casual speech as intensifiers, such as saying "the bag weighed a ton". Hyperbole makes the point that the speaker found the bag to be extremely heavy, although it was nothing like a literal ton. Understanding hyperboles and their use in context can further one's ability to understand the messages being sent from the speaker... Hyperbole can be used in a form of humour, excitement, distress, and many other emotions, all depending on the context in which the speaker uses it.
3:10God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way. God relented of the disaster which he said he would do to them, and he didn't do it.
4:1But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was angry. 2He prayed to Yahweh, and said, "Please, Yahweh, wasn't this what I said when I was still in my own country? Therefore I hurried to flee to Tarshish, for I knew that you are a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and abundant in loving kindness, and you relent of doing harm. 3Therefore now, Yahweh, take, I beg you, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live." 4Yahweh said, "Is it right for you to be angry?"
Though Isaiah may have used some Hyperbolic language ...
You do not believe the word of God, let alone that God preserved it correctly. So you go to lengths to be god in his stead and project your opinion onto it.
3A voice is calling,
“Clear the way for the LORD in the wilderness;
Make smooth in the desert a highway for our God.
4“Let every valley be lifted up,
And every mountain and hill be made low;
And let the rough ground become a plain,
And the rugged terrain a broad valley;
5Then the glory of the LORD will be revealed,
And all flesh will see it together;
For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.”
6A voice says, “Call out.”
Then he answered, “What shall I call out?”
All flesh is grass, and all its loveliness is like the flower of the field.
7The grass withers, the flower fades,
When the breath of the LORD blows upon it;
Surely the people are grass.
8The grass withers, the flower fades,
But the word of our God stands forever.
NASB 1977, Isaiah 40