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UFO crash is it plausible?

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posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 08:36 AM
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I apologize for going off on a tangent. My thoughts on your question of the plausibility of a crashed UFO:

If we can think it, dream it, believe it or imagine it, it is quite plausible.

Fundamental concepts in our reality we can't begin to explain, yet its our reality.

Some might say our very reality is improbable or even impossible. Everything in the entire Universe came from nothing.

People who believe in Science have many theories, but fail to explain where the magic fairy dust came from that started it all.

My question to you, fellow seeker of truth, is if the Infinite Universe was created from nothing, how then, can anything be impossible?

Its the ultimate conundrum, everything is both impossible and plausible.

I've entertained nearly every known theory on the Alien/UFO subject possible. Ive gone back and forth on it so many times, its insane. All I can say for certain in my reality is that, it would be ignorant to rule anything out based on our human knowledge.




posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Orionx2

I dare say we've barely scratched the surface with the metals we know personally. I mean it's only recently we've been sticking them in near sub-zero temperatures or under 10000x atmospheric pressure and that's not to mention the smart metals and composites that are being designed.

Metals are a funny thing, many elements can form them under the right conditions. Aluminium comes to mind, metallic aluminium isn't found naturally here on Earth who is to say what metals we could synthesize in the future?

It seems every year now they find a new element, not just that though we seem to keep making breakthroughs on elements we know too.



Do you mean alloys. A mixture of known metals? Is their something missing from the periodic table?

What do you mean by element? Huge unstable atoms that last a short period and then under go radioactive decay?



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 08:37 AM
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It's the greatest cover story of all time. OF ALL TIME



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: Bedlam

Cover for what, may I ask? Top Secret Government Aircraft? Abducting humans for genetic research and experimentation?

Where do the infamous Grays come into play? Are they actually human creations? Are they completely make believe? Why do so many people report similar experiences with them? Are they some kind of false screen memory, planted into victims brains?

Sorry for the barrage of questions, its just when I see respected members here that seem to be confident in their beliefs/knowledge make bold, yet somewhat vague statements, I must attempt to pry for more information. I'm still kinda new here and apologize if this is annoying or bad form. Please know I ask these things with the utmost respect and seriousness. Thanks!



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 10:59 AM
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yes its plausible however im not 100% they are really aliens
follow my threads if you are interested



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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This question is great for discussion and speculation. Fact is we have alot to learn about our Universe and it's laws. Potential technology of other potential e.t.'S could really bend our minds. Beings with tech to visit us would likely only have 1 special thing in mind, that could not be easily attainable elsewhere. Our souls. The more I learn about physics and matter, the more I understand this with increasing clarity. This is why even the Vatican is obsessed with space. Understanding this defines our existence. Do no be deceived or distracted.



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
Mines on the moon? You do understand the moon is constantly under professional and amateur astronomers observation with high quality telescopes?


You do understand the moon is always facing us with the same side? You also know that there are many strange lights observed on the moon? You have heard about Ingo Swann?


In addition to where are their power production facilities, collages, research facilities, farming and industrial facilities?


Somehow you seem to be able to imagine that beings cross the universe with faster than light speed (deemed impossible by scientists) - and you also seem to be able to image that beings from such other stars land here, actually crash here. But you aren't able to imagine that a relatively small civilisation could live on this planet and on the moon undetected? Actually, they aren't very good at going undetected, as we constantly see them flying around and have to endure their experiments..



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: Tuomptonite
a reply to: Bedlam

Cover for what, may I ask? Top Secret Government Aircraft?


Ding, ding! got 'er in one.

The thing just writes itself at some point. It's like a cover story that took off and developed its own life, lurching madly about, picking up steam until it no longer needed any further support. Now any project sighting, and the lucky benefactor is automatically labeled a nutcake and sort of auto-poopooed.



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: ForteanOrg

Then they are not worried about global warming? I would think they would have a vested interest in the health of a shared planet?

The fantasy of an advance civilization is fanciful like Bigfoot. No evidence that should be there. Both have no fossil, anthropological, or remains to suggest evey existing. No established area of hunting or agricultural. Innuendo, vague implications, and sensationalized fiction is not proof. I think its sad you don't open your mind to figure what evidence should be there and then work to prove your theory. What are ufologists good for anyway.

And you contradict yourself. No evidence. yet easily observable?

NASA and other space agencies don't monitor the side of the moon facing away from earth?



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 07:07 PM
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I find it ironic as a skeptic that I am told I am wrong from scores of people that have different and conflicting explanations for a specific event or phenomenon? I bet the humdrum explanation has a greater chance of being right then the contradicting sensationalized stories of fantasy.

Note, use to have an open mind. That was before how many ufologists and Bigfoot researcher are willing to push a hoax? To advanced their books sales? For likes on YouTube?
edit on 13-8-2016 by neutronflux because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: Bedlam
It's the greatest cover story of all time. OF ALL TIME


See this fella here? A lot of people say he is worrth listening to. Not big upping anybody, just giving an opinion.


edit on 13-8-2016 by Jonjonj because: Spelling



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 12:55 AM
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originally posted by: Redrat
I have been thinking lately about UFOs crashing and is it really believable that multiple UFOs have crashed on our earth? These vehicles are suppose to be piloted by advanced civilizations. Do you think multiple alien races really miss calculated the gravity or atmosphere to really crash their vehicles into the earth?


You are assuming that just because they can traverse large amounts of space that they must be technologically more advanced than us. This may not be the case.



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 05:43 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ForteanOrg

Then they are not worried about global warming? I would think they would have a vested interest in the health of a shared planet?


The inside is not under threat, actually, they like it hot and dark. However, they HAVE been warning us over and over again. Their biggest fear are our nuclear weapons, as they can really shake up and destroy the inner world.


And you contradict yourself. No evidence. yet easily observable?


Yes. Take, for example, Kumburgaz. Either it was a VERY VERY clever hoax (Tubitak is a quite respectable organisation) or it was real. Easily observable, but still not seen as proof. Yet, the phenomenon repeated itself a number of times, and there were various other witnesses.


NASA and other space agencies don't monitor the side of the moon facing away from earth?


No human ever stood on the far side of the moon - or at least, that's what the official story says. However, we do have photographs of the far side, and occasionally observe it, but of course by far (sic) not as frequent as the near side. The far side is intersting as it allows the inhabitants there to do their thing without being noticed by the general populace.



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 07:11 AM
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From all what I have seen an read about the topic I want to give you my humble opinion:


- yes, multiple UFOs have crashed on this earth and have been covertly retrieved and secretly handled

- they are more advanced than we are but their technology seems to be vulnerable when in comes to microwaves

- some of their crafts have deliberately been shot down by sort of high energy radars

- they shot down the UFOs to study them and to gain knowledge about the tech of the "others" and to potentially retrieve fully functional ships

- we have been lied to as what is going on and the secrecy continues even today



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 07:17 AM
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originally posted by: Redrat
I have been thinking lately about UFOs crashing and is it really believable that multiple UFOs have crashed on our earth? These vehicles are suppose to be piloted by advanced civilizations. Do you think multiple alien races really miss calculated the gravity or atmosphere to really crash their vehicles into the earth?


How do we explore other worlds?

1) we use small technology, trending towards nano-tech
2) we don't 'hide', landing is pretty obvious
3) we send unmanned craft in advance of going there

Because the advent of ET stuff was during periods of cold war, or pre-war, jingoism, suspicion we have been accustomed to 'aliens' being secretive, hiding, duplicitous.

In science fiction which has to have 'drama' to sell tech that's just out of reach but Earth-like. Note the early reports were of ET in balloons, but high tech balloons.

Would an advanced sentient space-faring civilization send craft designed to 'fly around' in a dense atmosphere? Why wouldn't they stay in orbit and use virtual means, probes, unmanned craft? Of course they would.

Also, many reports, one recently posted here talks about lots of lights and windows. Lights? On a 'stealthy craft'? Really? What do we use. IR, FLIR, not 'lights'.

So in effect if someone talks about 'craft' flying around, it's a tell. Either they're hallucinating, hoaxing or it's Earth technology (including hologram projection).

HTH



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Redrat

its possible. assuming the ufo's are using wormholes to travel. when they materialize in our realm, the ufo has to encounter rotation of the earth and its atmosphere. the ufo has to be imparted the correct direction and velocity to remain hovering and even during hovering they have to withstand wind resistance. all in all things can go wrong and the ufo crashes



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: Orionx2

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: Orionx2
And really... Shot down Aliens? They can traverse space but not handle our primitive weapons? Seriously?


I'd imagine their materials would be similar to what we have ... metallurgy and such can only go so far.
Our weapons might be "primitive", but if they hit something it'll certainly do damage to anything.

Come on now... are you trying to talk yourself into believing? If they can Travers space their metallurgy is superior to ours and we have no idea what other kinds of materials are out there.
Materials aside, just image their defensive capabilities if they can traverse space. Their defense system would take out anything we have. They could monitor us from Pluto and learn everything there is to know about us.


No, you have a point, their defense systems might be far beyond what we can invent or imagine.

But, at the end of the day, our science has discovered pretty much every metal and alloy makeup that the known universe has to offer, the table of elements hasn't really 'changed' in decades.
I am a welder by trade, when I started getting into TIG welding, I chose to take some engineering courses, a few of them were metallurgy and I can tell you this, pretty much any alloy from pig iron all the way to galvanized steel and manganese can be easily mapped out and created with ease.
materials that dont belong to our universe can be produced. its a by product of time machines. chk out this www.scribd.com...



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: Redrat
a reply to: Jonjonj

As a menu? To say you can pick and choose? Well time is a man-made thing to explain the duration of occurences , is time even a thing and if it is can it actually be altered
time is indeed physical



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: Tuomptonite

That was a awesome answer!



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: ForteanOrg

Really, not threatened by underground nuclear testing? Mining, oil drilling, fracking, ground penetrating radar reveals no evidence or invokes a reaction. All the different technologies used to map the earth and moon reveals no possible cave used to house their UFOs? (Radar, visible light, uv, infrared....) No body has wondered into one of their launch caves?

Your theory fails on so many levels.......



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