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The Trump & Clinton Fact thread

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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 01:54 PM
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Much has been said about both candidates. Many have offered their "opinions".
Many more have interpreted, reinterpreted, regurgitated what others have interpreted from the candidates.

We can go on forever about what our "opinions" are of the candidates. I certainly have. I'm not shy.

But there needs to be a place for facts.

Verifiable, cold, hard facts.

Not what you may of "heard".
Not what others say.
Not what you think or feel.

Just the facts.

Did Hillary lie? Show the facts.
Did Trump lie?
Show the facts.

Will Hillary take away guns?
Show the facts.

Not rhetoric. Not what someone else said.

Facts.

Facts are undeniable. Facts are the truth. Sure, we can blur, obfuscate, cloud the facts.
We can misinterpret the facts.

But here, I want the facts.

Is Trump an asshole?
Prove it.
Is Hillary a crook?
Prove it.

I'll try to add what I know, what I can prove and verify to the thread.

Others can read and decide for themselves who is or isn't the better candidate.

What does everyone say?

Who wants to "deny ignorance" with me?




posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 01:57 PM
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I think that the Donald would be in jail if he had did one % of what Hillary did.

Edit: Never mind, i think i would derail it with my comment, sorry. have fun with the "facts"


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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

They are both horrible.

No need to prove it, its a fact.

And the American people are more than aware.

Why Voters Hate Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.



edit on 11-8-2016 by gladtobehere because: wording



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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Hillary lied to congress and the FBI those are both verified facts.

Edit: She also broke the law
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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: avgguy

I dont think such vagueness was his intention here.


a reply to: DBCowboy
This thread will offer some examples:
TOP 10 Reasons Hillary Clinton Should Not be Elected President

Many added examples got posted in, too.
edit on 11-8-2016 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: avgguy
Hillary lied to congress and the FBI those are both verified facts.

Edit: She also broke the law


Exactly.

that is true and has been verified. There are transcripts and video evidence to show that.

Thank you.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: avgguy

I dont think such vagueness was his intention here.

This thread will offer some examples:
TOP 10 Reasons Hillary Clinton Should Not be Elected President

Many added examples got posted in, too.


If the assertion can be verified, then it is in line with what I'm trying to show.

Trump?

There's been plenty said about him.

If the same accusations can be held to the same scrutiny, then that would be good also.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I meant poster didn't didn't even specify the 'cases' involved. Not everybody been following everything. Citations might ought to be prudent in case studies.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I think any assertion should be verified.

Not interpreted, but actually verified.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:11 PM
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The Great White Hype: No One Is Energizing the White Working Class, Not Even Donald Trump

Here are some new facts: Trump is even losing the vaunted white working class vote he claims to be getting so much.

theintercept.com...



And yet, as New York Magazine’s Ed Kilgore recently noted, poll numbers actually show that Trump is now less popular with the white working class than Romney was. In 2012, Romney won 62 percent of noncollege-educated white voters. The latest NBC-Wall Street Journal poll showed that Trump isn’t even winning a clear majority with the group, with just 49 percent backing him. A McClatchy/Marist poll puts him even lower, at 46 percent. This is a reversal from earlier in the summer, when Trump’s support among the group was in the 60s, higher than Romney’s, though not by leaps and bounds.



Trump will have nothing left but the Klan and Alex Jones in the end



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

That is your opinion.


Trump will have nothing left but the Klan and Alex Jones in the end


This is not true. Unless you can prove that everyone voting for Trump is a member of the KKK or is Alex Jones.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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Donald Trump has been involved in more lawsuits than any other Presidential candidate in history...at least 3,500.
www.usatoday.com...

3 of those lawsuits are sexual assault related. 2 of the cases were dropped after related cases were settled out of court. A current one of Trump raping a 13 year old girl is still active.
www.huffingtonpost.com...
fusion.net...

6 of Trump's businesses have gone into bankruptcy.
www.politifact.com...

Trump is a birther, no source needed.
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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: kruphix

Thank you.

Sourced facts. Will have to read them, they aren't opinion pieces, are they?



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: kruphix

The rape cases are allegations, not verified.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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@Willtell

Tell me again how Trump is losing the support of the vaunted white working class.

Don't believe everything the media is telling you to believe because they are 100% behind the democratic party.

Trump can fill a 30,000 seat stadium (and still have 20,000 people waiting outside that could not get in because of fire codes) to give a hour and a half campaign speech sometimes more than once in a day if he travels to another city which he often does.

And yet Hillary has problems filling a high school gymnasium with supporters as she gives a 10-15 minutes screeching speech every 3-4 days.

And all the polls are screwed for Hillary for a very good reason. They say the participants are randomly chosen. This may be true but when they are randomly choosing their registered voter participants from large inner city groups you will get the majority of democrat leaning participants.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Trump's claim that thousands of New Jersey Muslims celebrated 9/11.

www.washingtonpost.com...


Trump’s outrageous claim that ‘thousands’ of New Jersey Muslims celebrated the 9/11 attacks

GOP presidential hopeful Trump falsely and repeatedly asserted that he saw TV clips of “thousands and thousands” of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating the collapse of the World Trade Center after the 9/11 attacks. Despite an army of fact checks, including ours, and repeated debunking, Trump continued to assert he was correct, even though he could produce no evidence except a handful of news stories that made brief mentions of alleged celebrations — which never could be confirmed


www.washingtonpost.com... attacks/
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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: cuckooold
a reply to: DBCowboy

Trump's claim that thousands of New Jersey Muslims celebrated 9/11.

www.washingtonpost.com... attacks/


Well done.

Another fact and verified.

Thank you!



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

This is what I'm talking about.

Well done!

I hope many can see that it is easy to make claims, accusations, spread rumors, repeat biased reports.

But the truth is not as "flashy".

Hillary has never stated that she will take away firearms. It has been inferred, implied by many pundits and people pro and con on the issue.

But she has never said it.

Sometimes, the truth is hard to find.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:28 PM
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Clinton demonstrating herself to be medically unfit for office, with medical history to substantiate:



www.zerohedge.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...



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