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J: .. describe Area 51 and S-4. There’s no question in mind that he was there. But there’s something that’s happening to Dan, something they’re doing with him, and it all fits into Project Serpo.
First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.
As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the story books tell. There were two crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.
The crash involved two extraterrestrial aircraft. The Corona site was found a day later by an archaeology team. This team reported the crash site to the Lincoln County Sheriff's department. A deputy arrived the next day and summoned a state police officer. One live entity [EBE] was found hiding behind a rock. The entity was given water but declined food. The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos.
The information eventually went to Roswell Army Air Field. The site was examined and all evidence was removed. The bodies were taken to Los Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system that allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research. The craft was taken to Roswell and then onto Wright Field, Ohio.
The second site was not discovered until August 1949 by two ranchers. They reported their findings several days later to the sheriff of Catron County, New Mexico. Because of the remote location, it took the sheriff several days to make his way to the crash site. Once at the site, the sheriff took photographs and then drove back to Datil.
Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified. A recovery team from Sandia took custody of all evidence, including six bodies. The bodies were taken to Sandia Base, but later transferred to Los Alamos.
The live entity established communications with us and provided us with a location of his home planet. The entity remained alive until 1952, when he died. But before his death, he provided us with a full explanation of the items found inside the two crafts. One item was a communication device. The entity was allowed to make contact with his planet.
Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged. Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device.
In 1965, we had an exchange program with the aliens. We carefully selected 12 military personnel; ten men and two women. They were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system. The 12 were skilled in various specialities.
Near the northern part of the Nevada Test Site, the aliens landed and the 12 Americans left. One entity was left on Earth. The original plan was for our 12 people to stay 10 years and then return to Earth.
But something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven men and one woman returned. Two died on the alien's home planet. Four others decided to remain, according to the returnees. Of the eight that returned, all have died. The last survivor died in 2002.
Comment 1 (by Gene Loscowski):
Who is this person? Most of the information is absolutely correct.
However, I never heard of any females going. To the best of my knowledge, we had 12 men, all military men. Eight USAF, two Army and two Navy guys. I think the females are a red herring. But maybe I just didn't have the clearance for that.
They left and was gone 20 years, as I was told. When they came back they were put in quarantine for 365 days at the complex. Only eight came back, that much is right. Two died a few years into their assignment on the Visitor's planet. Two others decided to remain and maybe are still alive today. Since their return, all have died. The last being in 2003 in a VA hospital.
As for the Roswell incident. Whomever sent the e-mail is correct.
The complete debriefing is contained in: "PROJECT SERPO," Final Report-80HQD893-020, classified TS, Codeword. Ask [Rick] Doty about that report because I think it is an OSI report. Paul [McGovern] should be commenting on this since he was involved in the debriefing.
[Clarification by Victor Martinez, 1 December: Ths project classification was provided by Paul McGovern, not Gene Loscowski. Apologies for the error.]
Comment 2 (by Paul McGovern):
Interesting but not totally correct [commenting on Anonymous's original e-mail]. As for the Roswell incident: absolutely right. Few people have ever gotten it entirely correct. Two crash sites, not one. As for the exchange program: Unauthorized Release of Classified Information, as I see it. But maybe someone currently within our government wants it out. No females were sent. Twelve men, all military. 8 USAF, 2 U.S. Army and 2 U.S. Navy. Two were doctors; three were scientists; two were language specialists; two were security personnel; two were pilots and one was the leader (Colonel-AF).
All were sheep-dipped and completely erased from the military roles. I'm not totally sure of the training period, but I think it was about six months. They were able to transmit messages to Earth by means of a communication system set up prior to their trip.
One doctor and one of the security personnel died three years into their visit. The doctor died of pneumonia and the security guy died of an injury. The exchange team had to endure extreme hardship adjusting to the environment of the visitor's planet.
The heat was extreme and took many years to adjust. The food was something of a problem because the human system had problems digesting it. The team took enough food for two years and rationed it another eight months, but eventually had to eat the visitor's [Eben's: alien's name] food. This caused all team members gastrointestinal problems. Eventually, they adjusted. The visitors tried to create different foods but few worked.
The team was never isolated or restricted by the visitors. They could travel as they wished and see whatever they wanted to see. After about six years, the team moved to a northern portion of the visitor's planet, where the temperature was cooler and which contained ample vegetation.
The visitors built a small community for the team. The only major problem was time. Time was different on the visitor's planet. I don't think anyone ever figured it out. The visitors had no clocks. They didn't judge or account for time as we did. The visitors found our attempts to account for time strange.
The visitors were extremely disciplined in their daily lives. Every visitor worked on a schedule, which was not by a clock, but by the movement of their sun. Each little community had a large tower, which filtered the sun through. When the sun was at a particular point on the tower, it meant the visitors had to do a particular thing.
There was never complete darkness on the visitors planet. It got dim but not dark. The visitors had rest periods, but not like our sleep periods. The visitors rested three times during their sun days. Our team determined the entire work period was approx. 43 hours. They had three rest periods within that 43 hours. That is still about 14 hours straight,... couldn't get too many of our workers to do that! The visitors also didn't have months or years.
They did have life periods, as our team coined it. It was impossible to judge the visitor's age, although our team did find graves. The population of the visitor's planet was about 650,000. There were small communities throughout the planet. There were underground rivers, which fed into open valleys. There was industry.
But all of the food was grown, either in fields or in large buildings. They did have animals. Different types. Strange large beasts, they used for work and other things, but no meat was eaten. The geological make up of the planet was so much different than ours. Few mountains, no oceans, some trees or something similar to trees and no other civilization except the Ebens.
Everyone looked the same initially to our team. But after some time, the team members learned to identify different Ebens by their voices. Although the Ebens couldn't speak English, they did make noises that our team members were able to translate into English. After five years, we had their language completely translated into English. The complete debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.
Comment 3 (by "Anonymous II"):
I would prefer you keep my name private.
But here is my evaluation of the information from "Anonymous."
1. As for the Roswell incident [described by Anonymous in his e-mail]: This was the story I read in the historical document called the "Red Book." Almost exactly to the word. Although there were more details about the crash sites and what was recovered.
2. As for the Exchange Program: I read about it but thought there were 12 men; I don't recall any women. But that was about all I knew. We did have a special unit that handled their debriefing but USAF positive intelligence was also involved. I was never involved in that program, but I knew other agents who were.
3. I'd like to contact this source. I have about a million questions to ask!
I heard Linda Howe speak about the exchange program some years ago. I always wondered where she got her information.
Keep up the excellent work!
K: What about Serpo? I understand on ATS you basically said Serpo is disinfo in general but that yes, we obviously sent astronauts...
J: We sent a team. We did send a team. They went to Zeta Reticuli. There was three of them. That could be misinformation... who knows? Maybe there was five of them.
J: But the problem with Serpo as we’re seeing now and with Burisch is that there’s males and females and that’s not right.
K: What do you mean males and females?
J: From Zeta Reticuli.
K: You mean, aliens that are male and female?
J: ...that are male and female
K: Are you saying there aren’t?
J: No. They are cybernetic organisms. They, the guys who made those guys, which they call all the J-Rods and the Grays, whatever, those guys are just cybernetic organisms. They come here. Their job is to see if this farm... I used to call it an experiment, it’s not an experiment ... it’s a farm, a soul farm... if things are going along fine. I used to think it was evil. It’s not. We’re just developing and those guys, the Grays, are just here monitoring, seeing everything’s going OK. They pick up kids when they’re 3 to 4; they pick them up when they’re 7 to 8; then once they’re 13 to be sure everything’s OK. That’s all their job is.
K: Do you feel that the Grays are malevolent?
J: It’s a great story. I may be wrong, but I believe it’s disinformation.
K: But we’ve been to Zeta Reticuli. The root of the story is actually true, as far as you’re concerned, because of what your contacts are telling you?
J: I’ve seen... the day is 90 Earth hours long. I haven’t seen that information come up. It’s the 4th planet from Zeta Reticuli 2. So if you’re standing on Reticulum 4 you can see both suns, Zeta 1 and Zeta 2.
originally posted by: Kandinsky
Even though it was proven to be a made-up story
Instead, our Zetan space-farers existed like Bedouins on a world without any razle-dazzle technology.
A decent author could have worked wonders with Zeta and given the Reticulans a wee bit of personality. Even the guy with the 'Tall Whites' story went the extra mile to give them quirks and recognisable personalities.
originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: nOraKat
A blast-o from the past-o
Even though it was proven to be a made-up story, I'm still curious about *why* they did it. Was it to create enough buzz they'd be able to sell the rights to Hollywood? Was it a mean trick on the UFO 'community?' They spent over a decade laying the groundwork and I guess we'll never know for sure.