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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Raggedyman
Not by your standard but, we have danced to this tune enough times to know that this is where it was going.
"Organics"
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TerryDon79
Empirical evidence for evolution, that would be a great thread
It won't get a single serious reply
Whale bone hips, cricket gills and baby gills
Arnt you sick of this
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Raggedyman
Is your definition of empirical evidence going to change?
Quit wasting your own time.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Raggedyman
You are having trouble grasping that nobody is going to be able to provide what you are asking for?
Even when you tell them to use their definition you come back saying that it isn't empirical evidence.
ETA: Why are you even asking me? I told you pages ago I have nothing to offer.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
My definition of empirical evidence was agreed on with Phantom
It was based on the live science and the Wikipedia definition
If you would like to find another well reputed scientific site that defines empirical evidence I will agree, no problems at all
Dask, go find a scientific definition to empirical evidence, then post it up
My definition doesn't have to change, you just have to learn what empirical evidence is
Go, I am here
originally posted by: Raggedyman
No dask, I am not
Others are not grasping they don't have any empirical evidence
No
You are not grasping I am playing by your rules, allowing you to decide the grounds
There is no empirical evidence, that's why phantom disappeared
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: daskakik
That's because he wants to see a baby fishy turn into a mammoth or an eagle or some other wierd version of his views of evolution. And he wants to see it happening right now. You know? The thing that would disprove evolution lol.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: daskakik
That's because he wants to see a baby fishy turn into a mammoth or an eagle or some other wierd version of his views of evolution. And he wants to see it happening right now. You know? The thing that would disprove evolution lol.
That's a miracle, that's just what you want people to believe of me
That's your strawman because I threaten you intelectualy and emotionally
Calm down their TD
You are turning into a pumpkin, relax, breathe deep, think calm thoughts, walk away from the computer, have a cool drink
originally posted by: Raggedyman
I think if you understood my argument of the 10000000000 plus million deaths was more about atheists saying religion (social religion?) is bad, compared to Darwinism, not so bad is it
originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: WakeUpBeer
It's looking like the OP is going to ignore the empirical evidence I posted. I'd like to move on to another sub forum. Maybe check back in a couple of hours to see if the article was even read or not.
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: daskakik
That's because he wants to see a baby fishy turn into a mammoth or an eagle or some other wierd version of his views of evolution. And he wants to see it happening right now. You know? The thing that would disprove evolution lol.
That's a miracle, that's just what you want people to believe of me
That's your strawman because I threaten you intelectualy and emotionally
Calm down their TD
You are turning into a pumpkin, relax, breathe deep, think calm thoughts, walk away from the computer, have a cool drink
You're just too funny. Wanting something, get shown it, say it's not it, want it again, but change the terms, get shown it, say it's not it, want it again ad infinitum.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Barcs
It's a fantastic theory, except nobody can find any proof of a lineage in the fossil record, they can't even find a fossil record for that matter
Of all the species, not one single lineage exists,
coelacanth, horseshoe crabs all sorts of living fossils out there and still nothing that would suggest a lineage, no chain of evolution
before bringing up the Coelacanth as if it supports your statements. But it doesn't and all you're doing is repeating someone else's B.S. without engaging in any due diligence to ascertain the truthfulness of the statement. If you had done so, you would know that Coelacanth is not a species, it's an entire Order. For those who want to learn, at the bottom of the ladder is Species, above Species is the level of Genus, above that is Family and above Family we finally have Order. The full list of the taxonomic hierarchy from top down is Life, Domain, Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus and finally Species for those who are interested. The remaining members of the Coelacanth Order are 2 species of the Genus, Latimeria. There is the West Indian Ocean Coelacanth, Latimeria Chalumnae. This is the one found off the coast of S. Africa (and subsequently all up and down the East coast of Africa) and is the first Coelacanth discovered in modern times back in 1938. The other and slightly more recent discovery( only found in 1998 or '99) is L. Menadoensis and is found in the shallow waters off of Indonesia. When I say these were recent discoveries, I only mean in the sense to western biologists and paleontologists as both species were well known to locals. While certainly of great interest as the entire order was thought to have gone extinct 66 MA, they are in no way a "living fossil", unchanged for millions of years. There are numerous morphological differences between the 2 modern species and the rest of their extinct order and the ability to engage in genetic ttesting of the surviving taxon has allowed Evolutionary Biologists to establish a molecular clock and determine that the dibergence of Coelacanth, Tetrapods and Lungfish occurred around 390 MA. The main point I'm trying to get at is that if you can't be bothered to establish a baseline of knowledge regarding the veracity of statements you yourself are making, then your entire position is founded on far higher levels of ignorance and assumption than you attempt to accuse those of an opposing point of view of having.
Of all the species, not one single lineage exists,
It's interesting how so many talk as if evolution is a settled outcome, talk like the evidence is all around, like when a thread like this is penned it should be decried instantly
Yet it's not
In fact over 20 pages and the nonsense, human foetus have gills in the womb, people still believe that, crickets with gills, breathe underwater, seriously
Whale hip bones, seriously, how can they still teach, believe that stuff
Do you not sit there at times and think, ever just think