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originally posted by: GetHyped
originally posted by: logicsoda
We're not really sure about that. His posts seem to indicate that he doesn't really understand evolution but at the same time I wonder if he is just not trolling as I have mentioned in several different posts...
I don't think it's trolling. I think it's nothing more than the self righteous hubris of someone blinded by their religious fundamentalism. He will dismiss any science outright that contradicts his literal interpretation of scripture without so much as a moment's thought. Bible = right, contradictions = wrong. Simple. I really don't think the thought process goes any deeper than that. It can't, after all, as that would open up a rabbit hole of self doubt. Ignorance is bliss, as they say.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Yet my question was about empirical evidence for evolution, nothing about religion
If there be trolls, it's the kind who want to steer this argument by using religion as the issue
Mine was a science based question, you troll asserting a religious counterpoint
Religion is irrelevant, this is based on science
It's the nature of the science that causes you fear, you dare not contest it.
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Yet my question was about empirical evidence for evolution, nothing about religion
If there be trolls, it's the kind who want to steer this argument by using religion as the issue
Mine was a science based question, you troll asserting a religious counterpoint
Religion is irrelevant, this is based on science
It's the nature of the science that causes you fear, you dare not contest it.
So. It's a "science based" question. "My question was about empirical evidence for evolution". Are you ready for the answer, with the understanding of course that you understand what empirical evidence is (remember the definition).
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Yet my question was about empirical evidence for evolution, nothing about religion
If there be trolls, it's the kind who want to steer this argument by using religion as the issue
Mine was a science based question, you troll asserting a religious counterpoint
Religion is irrelevant, this is based on science
It's the nature of the science that causes you fear, you dare not contest it.
So. It's a "science based" question. "My question was about empirical evidence for evolution". Are you ready for the answer, with the understanding of course that you understand what empirical evidence is (remember the definition).
Answer my question
Simple yes or no
Can you prove with science, will you, humanity arose from space dirt and space water
Answer the question
Yes or no
Simple
Yes or No
I have turned the table with your question
It's on you and your science
Answer the question, or just go hide phantom
I like your line of questioning, simple to the point
Yes or no, then proof
As for empirical evidence, you can have theground, you clearly need it, define it any way you want to Phantom
Anyway you want to, stop running and covering, I will accept anything at this point, make your own rules, stop cowering behind semantics
Dont be a coward, post it
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Raggedyman
I just love the way that
A, you want "emperical evidence" of evolution
B, change it to abiogenesis
C, change the definition of evolution because "reasons"
D, can't answer a simple question about what "emperical evidence" is
You make me laugh.
I don't take you seriously. Who would? You just too funny!
I don't accept the opinion that abiogenesis is not evolution
I agree my opinion is different, not the social norm
So if you notice, I made concessions for my opinion
I changed my question based on my opinion to a question based on the socially normal opinion
Did you not notice that
It seems not only do you lack the capacity to understand the change, you imply I rig the game to my specification when in fact I allow your specifications to remain
Sadly I have to simplify it to give you a chance to contest it, even when I have done this I am still left with no answer and people like you still saying its to hard by your own rules
I am at a loss
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Yet my question was about empirical evidence for evolution, nothing about religion
If there be trolls, it's the kind who want to steer this argument by using religion as the issue
Mine was a science based question, you troll asserting a religious counterpoint
Religion is irrelevant, this is based on science
It's the nature of the science that causes you fear, you dare not contest it.
So. It's a "science based" question. "My question was about empirical evidence for evolution". Are you ready for the answer, with the understanding of course that you understand what empirical evidence is (remember the definition).
Answer my question
Simple yes or no
Can you prove with science, will you, humanity arose from a single celled organism
Answer the question
Yes or no
Simple
Yes or No
I have turned the table with your question
It's on you and your science
Answer the question, or just go hide phantom
I like your line of questioning, simple to the point
Yes or no, then proof
As for empirical evidence, you can have theground, you clearly need it, define it any way you want to Phantom
Anyway you want to, stop running and covering, I will accept anything at this point, make your own rules, stop cowering behind semantics
Dont be a coward, post it
If you want to start a new thread on another topic, please do so. Your initial post asked for empirical evidence. Either you want it or you don't.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Yet my question was about empirical evidence for evolution, nothing about religion
If there be trolls, it's the kind who want to steer this argument by using religion as the issue
Mine was a science based question, you troll asserting a religious counterpoint
Religion is irrelevant, this is based on science
It's the nature of the science that causes you fear, you dare not contest it.
So. It's a "science based" question. "My question was about empirical evidence for evolution". Are you ready for the answer, with the understanding of course that you understand what empirical evidence is (remember the definition).
Answer my question
Simple yes or no
Can you prove with science, will you, humanity arose from a single celled organism
Answer the question
Yes or no
Simple
Yes or No
I have turned the table with your question
It's on you and your science
Answer the question, or just go hide phantom
I like your line of questioning, simple to the point
Yes or no, then proof
As for empirical evidence, you can have theground, you clearly need it, define it any way you want to Phantom
Anyway you want to, stop running and covering, I will accept anything at this point, make your own rules, stop cowering behind semantics
Dont be a coward, post it
If you want to start a new thread on another topic, please do so. Your initial post asked for empirical evidence. Either you want it or you don't.
Answer my question
Simple yes or no
Can you prove with science, will you, humanity arose from space dirt and space water
Answer the question
Yes or no
Simple
Yes or No
I have turned the table with your question
It's on you and your science
Answer the question, or just go hide phantom
I like your line of questioning, simple to the point
Yes or no, then proof
As for empirical evidence, you can have theground, you clearly need it, define it any way you want to Phantom
Anyway you want to, stop running and covering, I will accept anything at this point, make your own rules, stop cowering behind semantics
Dont be a coward, post it
originally posted by: Phantom423
You turned the table on your own question.
If you want an answer to your second question about space dirt and space water, please provide evidence that evolutionary science says that humanity arose from space dirt and space water. To the best of my knowledge, I have never read any research paper or textbook which says that humans arose from space dirt and space water. So please provide your reference material.
And remember - it must be empirical evidence.
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Raggedyman
No raggedy, you old fundementalist. I will not show you a bat changing into a Christian or a Muslim changing into a lamb. I also won't show you a fish changing into a chimp, a cat changing into a dog or any other thing you want as you twisted version of evolution lol.
Kudos for still making me laugh though!
originally posted by: Raggedyman
I wont reply to any taunts or strawmen unless you can show me empirical evidence, I feel like I am being cruel to children.
originally posted by: pthena
Personally, I have no problem with the idea that species can branch through evolutionary process. The idea that there is one common ancestor for all life forms is rather unfounded. And that is the accepted definition of Evolution. The version that has one tree of life.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
This is totally unfair, its like punching people who have no arms, stuck in a room with blind folds on.
how does that really conflict with common ancestry?
I suppose if the conditions on earth were just right, there could potentially be more than one "abiogenesis".