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posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: TerryDon79

As predictable as always.


and I can pen this whole thread and get nothing from every atheist evolutionist here
Because
As predictable as always


Apart from the fact that not all people who stand by the theory of evolution are atheists.

Another fact that you keep ignoring.

But you carry on. People like you are ten reason that religion has lost its footing over the years.

Aye. I think it's about time people just stopped responding to him. It seems to me like he's just trolling, so we should stop feeding the troll.




posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman



1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats (source), 80% with cows (source), 75% with mice (source), and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.
5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.
evolutionfaq.com five-proofs-evolution

It's just a quickie type list with links to sources.



posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: logicsoda

I'm just doing it for amusement.

It's funny watching him beg for "evidence" when he means proof. It's like watching a 3y/o girl begging for a unicorn lol.



posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 11:43 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: logicsoda

I'm just doing it for amusement.

It's funny watching him beg for "evidence" when he means proof. It's like watching a 3y/o girl begging for a unicorn lol.

I've honestly laughed pretty hard at some of the things he's replied with. I get a kick out of it.

EDIT: LOL he did the 100+ million reply again!
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posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Unicorns evolved into ponies.



posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: pthena

Or did they evolve into narwhals?




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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 12:01 AM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: TerryDon79

As predictable as always.


and I can pen this whole thread and get nothing from every atheist evolutionist here
Because
As predictable as always


Apart from the fact that not all people who stand by the theory of evolution are atheists.

Another fact that you keep ignoring.

But you carry on. People like you are ten reason that religion has lost its footing over the years.


But TD
You are the reason creationists exist
You provide nothing to your cause



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: TerryDon79

As predictable as always.


and I can pen this whole thread and get nothing from every atheist evolutionist here
Because
As predictable as always


Apart from the fact that not all people who stand by the theory of evolution are atheists.

Another fact that you keep ignoring.

But you carry on. People like you are ten reason that religion has lost its footing over the years.


But TD
You are the reason creationists exist
You provide nothing to your cause


I'm pretty sure creationists existed thousands and thousands and thousands of years before I was even a twinkle.

You're "argument" is old. It's been beaten so hard that the horse is now just a pile of blood and guts.

We can't give you what you want. What you want disproves evolution. It doesn't exist (as far as anyone knows). Why don't you find this "emperical evidence" and you'd finally have the thing to disprove evolution!



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: Raggedyman



1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats (source), 80% with cows (source), 75% with mice (source), and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.
5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.
evolutionfaq.com five-proofs-evolution

It's just a quickie type list with links to sources.


Thank you Pthena
What would you like me to tackle first, explain why they are assumptions and not empirical.

Your call.
Happy to oblige.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 12:11 AM
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Empirical evidence he learnt a new word...
Every other post will contain this now and the others about atheism kills.
Hey op can you show me empirical evidence that millions died in the name of atheism?.
Nope thought not.
Please post lots of links though as evidence.
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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 12:20 AM
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a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Actually KND, as I have said countless times
My argument about atheism killing people is silly, its based on the silly argument of religion killing people
Ok, its me parodying people like you.
Its even stranger when it is you slamming me for being silly for parodying people like you

You say silly things about religion killing people
To show you how silly your argument is I use the same tactic

You then say I am silly when I use your very own reasoning



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 12:22 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman


What would you like me to tackle first, explain why they are assumptions and not empirical.

1) I looked up the first one. They call it universal, yet the exceptions prove the rule. What? An assumption.
2) Doesn't sound true. There have been cataclysms that have almost eliminated life, which pretty much then had to start over almost from scratch. No way could there be a smooth transition from oldest rocks to newer rocks. Assumption
3) Hypothesized evolutionary relationships between humans and their close relatives based on DNA-DNA hybridization data. Hypothesis.
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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 12:27 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

That is the difference people actually kill in the name of religion.
Oh and cheers for the admission dude next time you post crap I will point it out and point out your post admitting trolling.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 12:44 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Is my opinion that you were never born equal to the opinion of evolution?

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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Alright, I think I found what we're looking for:



Evolution 101
An introduction to evolution
The definition
Biological evolution, simply put, is descent with modification. This definition encompasses small-scale evolution (changes in gene frequency in a population from one generation to the next) and large-scale evolution (the descent of different species from a common ancestor over many generations). Evolution helps us to understand the history of life.

The explanation
Biological evolution is not simply a matter of change over time. Lots of things change over time: trees lose their leaves, mountain ranges rise and erode, but they aren't examples of biological evolution because they don't involve descent through genetic inheritance.

The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor, just as you and your cousins share a common grandmother.

Through the process of descent with modification, the common ancestor of life on Earth gave rise to the fantastic diversity that we see documented in the fossil record and around us today. Evolution means that we're all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales.

Evolution Theory is an ideological construct similar to a school of philosophy or a system of systematic theology. They are frameworks within which to explain things.

I have no reason to believe that all life comes from a common ancestor. Why? If life can start once it could start many times. The descendants would not have the same ancestor. Therefore my ideological construct of evolution is not the Evolution 101 endorsed by Berkley.

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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 02:11 AM
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a reply to: pthena

personally i don't see that theory as correct in the least...

All life on earth didn't come from one common ancestor...

IF we're talking about the very earliest form of life which is bacteria or ameba... We're talking about millions of different kinds of said single celled organism each evolving in their own path

One of the theories i've heard is that life started from meteors hitting the earth... but this theory you've offered assumes in this context that there was only one form of bacteria or single celled organism on said meteorites... and im sure IF this idea is correct, it wasn't just one meteor strike...

Even IF we're talking about the first time our "ancestors" crawled out from the water on to land... Does it make sense that only one species headed in that direction... or was it many, IF not millions of different kinds?

This almost takes us back to Adam and eve, and the ridiculous idea that there was only two people that spawned 7 billion...




posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

I didn't say that did i?

i said its evidence that the species changed however slight the change was...

Perhaps IF they continued said experiment we could actually see proof of evolution over many generations...



Perhaps?


what... i can't offer a possibility?

We know that children take on the characteristics of their parents in all species...

again as so many people have stated... evolution is a very slow process

Someone posted a video in one of these threads... the idea was every generation gets a picture and the stack of pictures is stretched out over like 3k miles... it gives a excellent perspective of the "theory"

I can't seem to find it though...

little help people





posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:10 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

It's ok to be smart channel there was no 1st human I think is the one you need.
Can't link it on phone



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:18 AM
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a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

YES!!

Thank you brother!!




posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

We just saw evidence a page ago that people are de evolving and you are saying they are evolving
Who do I believe



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