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Trump - The Monster behind the Mask

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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

I did talk about the video. Quote-mining, deck stacking, out of context, misrepresenting, straw man. It's fallacious and false.


It's almost all him speaking. How is that misrepresenting him??? How can he be his own straw man????

If you say it's out of context that is debatable depending on if the context changes what is being said. Sometimes the context is very clear in what is being said. It's not as if he's much of an intellectual where deeper meaning is hidden in his incredibly wise remarks. What he says is very simple and direct. But if you want to claim that what he is saying isn't exactly what it sounds like then by all means show it. Give me an example. Because in most cases I think what he is saying is exactly what it sounds like with or without some unknown context for it.




posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 03:50 PM
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"crickets"



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: violet

Violent Crime is down. It's just a fact. So is Property Crime. It's a trend that has been happening since the 90's when crime was at it's highest levels. Overall, Crime is down. However, peoples perception is that crime is up. How can that be???

Every study you see from the FBI to Private Organizations which record that data all say the same things. That crime is down. People however think it's up more than ever. Why??? Why do you think that is???

I know you disagree with me. Maybe you just don't want to agree or you refuse to believe what clearly seems to be the fact that it's down and that is being reported from multiple independent sources nation wide, but just take a second to think about it. Could the media have something to do with it??

Is there a reason that others may want you to believe that Crime is up even though it's down??? Stop and think about that. How else would Law Enforcement justify Military Upgrades?? How else would they justify "Police Saturation" exercises and no knock raids??? How else would the Government justify constant surveillance, data mining, TSA abuse, etc.

Just stop and think for a minute who might gain by making people believe Crime is up when it's down and for what purpose. I'm just asking you to think about it.

Who profits from putting 1/3 of our population behind bars??? Why do we have mandatory minimums that many times are totally insane??? Why do we have Pot Voted Legal and still criminalized by the Federal Gov.?? Why is it at the highest level while also being used as a medicine?? Something isn't right and you need to see past the fog of deception which should be simple at this point.

Especially for you conservatives. It makes sense that the more socialist minded would accept the Government Lies and deception than the Conservative or Libertarian Minded but even they aren't buying it. It's known now that the Drug War has always caused more damage than good. That it is wasting Trillions of dollars and making matters worse. That it makes the Cartels and the Crime Increase rather than decrease. That it makes for more and more potent Drugs and Addiction. That it puts Law Enforcement in more danger for no reason. Why would they still continue that??? You know they know this same information. So why would they pit the populace against it's own people in an ever continuing and failing War where everyone is a loser??? Think about it from a clear perspective. Why would this be happening??? Who does it benefit???



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

I'm sorry. I'm getting to you, honestly.

You just have a lot there it takes time and I'm only one person and trying to answer everyone that responds too.

Just hang in there. I'm doing my best.

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(To whoever gave you a star for you *crickets" comment, whoever you are. SUCK IT!! I'm answering as fast as I can and being respectful with everyone who's showing respect as well. Don't be such a dick. If you think it's so easy put yourself out there and stand on your own and let's see how fast you can do it while including more than just some snide comment.)
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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

www.washingtonpost.com...

Then why does this FBI report say it is up?




Between January and June 2015, the number of murders was up 6.2 percent, with the biggest jumps seen in the country’s smallest and largest areas. Murders were up 17 percent in areas with fewer than 10,000 residents, while murders were up 12.4 percent in places with between half a million and a million residents and up 10.8 percent in places with more than 1 million residents.


So, anything to add about Trump being a monster? Talking about the War on Drugs or how we have the highest incarceration rate in the world is really not in play based on your OP.

So, where is Trump being a monster?
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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm




This is a compilation video released by Anonymous which is basically a collection of Trump saying things that should be a concern for everyone, especially if he wins the election.


Any sayings in particular that concerns you?



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

All good I am just busting chops....I want to hear how he is a monster though....in your words not the video. Pretty harsh to call someone a monster. Dahmer and Gacy were monsters.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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Great OP Mojom

The trump herd will attack--just hold fast

Truth always prevails!

Trump is the opposite of Truth



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: mOjOm

All good I am just busting chops....I want to hear how he is a monster though....in your words not the video. Pretty harsh to call someone a monster. Dahmer and Gacy were monsters.


Real quick, maybe my title is a bit over the top or sensational. But hey, I'm trying to get other attention after all right???

I admitted that it was my own words and by now you should expect a little bit of a poke in the ribs from me. Some times it takes a kick in the ass to get peoples attention. As you can see it worked too.

If I didn't shake people up with a catchy title and it just fell off the board with no attention what's the point???

So let's get over being offended by the title and talk about the content instead, agree??

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Les, I'll be with ya ASAP man. Meta has a pretty big list I have to get to first though. It might be a minute.
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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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Trump is out of his mind. A fascist enabler and dangerous for not only the country but the world.


One has to examine ones own self to see why the support a xenophobic arch-deceiver like Trump.

The video captures the essence of Trump’s crooked ideology, his ignorance, and bigoted demagoguery.

People who support Trump have to examine their own heart and ask themselves..why



But in the case of Trump, it has been clear since the time of the Iowa caucuses that so many active Ku Klux Klansmen, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, racist agitators, xenophobic fanatics, alt-right fascists, Elmer Gantrys, and survivalist paranoids are on the march for Trump. White supremacists provided robo-calls for Trump in Iowa. Hooligan types populate his Bikers for Trump. There is also the Lions’ Guard, a kind of proto-SA brownshirts. Protesters at Trump rallies have been routinely expelled with violent means. Trump is in a class by himself with this, and no amount of obfuscation will hide the basic facts. Trump is at the head of a violent movement of racists and fascists. The KKK Neo-Nazi David Duke has been inspired to come out of his retirement and run for office because Trump has inspired him.

tarpley.net...



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Awesome resonse. I mean, the whole thing reads like the footnote in every Trump article on the HuffPost.



Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims ― 1.6 billion members of an entire religion ― from entering the U.S.


too bad you could not get demagogue in there too.

The racist angle is also funny. The Black Panthers endorsed Obama and patrolled polling places during the election and they were given a pass by a black AG and black president. If the same thing happened with a white group and a white AG and a white president let them off it would be war.

It reminds me of this when Anti Trump people talk with the same talking points...




posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

You're scared of words, and convicting people of thoughtcrimes before they commit any real crimes. This isn't the Minority Report.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Willtell

You're scared of words, and convicting people of thoughtcrimes before they commit any real crimes. This isn't the Minority Report.


How is someone suppose to choose a candidate but from their words of what they would do if they were president.

Trump wants to murder relatives of terrorists

Exclude Muslims from the country

Throw out 12 million people, something that would cause untold suffering.

Claims he would restart the economy. Look at his new plan

Talks cavalierly about nuclear bombs

Has shown he doesn’t even know what the triad is…so he’s abysmally ignorant

Draws the worst kind of racists to his cause


On and on Trump demonstrates his lack of ability to be a credible president



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
1. Internet - Why are ISIS supported sites running? Freedom of Speech? If the KKK posts to Facebook it is gone in seconds. The Internet is a breeding ground for hate and to be honest, I do not believe it should be protected by our constitution. There should be a new amendment passed regarding the internet and content.


Ok. I completely disagree. As for regulating the internet the only laws should be about actions and not information. If you hack someone or invade someone's privacy or something that is one thing. But as for voicing your opinion or something, that should be allowed. For one, Social Media obviously has it's own ways of dealing with things all it's own. As for Gov. control, there should be no restriction on speech. In fact, if anything it allows us to know what others might be up to anyway. They should no more restrict KKK speech than ISIS speech IMO. Let them say what they want since at least then we know what they're thinking.

The problem with shutting down people's speech is that once you start doing it there isn't any place to where it will stop and of course you have to problem of who decides what is allowed to be said. It's only speech and if it's incorrect it should be shown to be incorrect so the truth is known. If there is no clear truth then there is no clear truth to it. But it's only speech and it's all by choice whether or not you take part in it. So nobody is forced into it.

Which brings up the part that you kind of skipped over which was his mocking and flippant attitude toward Free Speech when on this topic. That is a constitutional Right and the first one mentioned. At the moment we already have speech being opposed and the truth hidden with misinformation and propaganda. That's difficult enough to deal with. But if the Gov. can shut certain speech down all together what chance is there at all???

Trump has shown that he is far too sensitive to comments made about him personally. He's even too sensitive about things being said that relate to him that he doesn't like. He sues people for saying he doesn't have as much money as he says he has. While at the same time he's been caught spreading lies about Black on White Crime which came from unreliable sources and he didn't care one bit. His attitude is that he should be allowed to say anything and it should be thought of as the truth simply because he says it. But for everyone else, if he doesn't like it, they can be censored. I take issue with that.


(Damn, I just realized that my reply to your list of comments will be way too long to ever want to read. So I'm going to have to break it up in to sections. Otherwise it will just be insane to even read and also type. So I'm working on the rest and you can wait or discuss this one for now or whatever. That's a hell of a list you made there buddy!!)



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: Willtell


How is someone suppose to choose a candidate but from their words of what they would do if they were president.


You're not listening to his words, you're listening to the media's words.




Trump wants to murder relatives of terrorists


He never said that, further proof you are repeating media and not Trump.


Exclude Muslims from the country


To figure out what is going on with Islamic terrorism in the US. He has since softened his stance, saying he will limit travels from Muslims who come from hotbeds of terrorism.



Throw out 12 million people, something that would cause untold suffering.


He will deport illegals, yes, but said nothing of mass deportation. It's 11 million. His immigration reform is on his website.


Claims he would restart the economy. Look at his new plan


I just watched his economic plan this morning. Did you?


Talks cavalierly about nuclear bombs


He said he would be the last person to use a nuclear bomb, and has repeatedly spoken against nuclear proliferation.


Has shown he doesn’t even know what the triad is…so he’s abysmally ignorant


Big deal.



Draws the worst kind of racists to his cause


Guilty by association.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: lortl
a reply to: mOjOm

what a suprise all the trumpbots jumped in so quick to call you names.


What a surprise the emotionally-driven liberals can't use common sense.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

No your wrong, Trump said everything I wrote…not media hyperbole



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: Willtell




No your wrong, Trump said everything I wrote…not media hyperbole


Sorry, he didn't.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:45 PM
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I think democrats should first earn the elusive wage of $15 an hour or more before talking trash

Or you democrats could start by paying for your own healthcare before talking trash

What if you could just pay for your birth control then talk trash

Or you could go straight to talking trash though I cant promise anyone will care



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:51 PM
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Independent Candidate Evan McMullin Says Trump Inhuman
www.thecallnews.com...

This guy is a conservative from Utah



Evan McMullin, the former CIA agent who announced today that he is running for president, had harsh words for both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, telling ABC News he believes both are "woefully unfit for the responsibilities they seek." But he reserved particular ire for Trump, calling him "inhuman," and an "authoritarian" who "does not care about anyone but himself." McMullin, a Republican, previously worked for the House Republican Conference and considers himself a true conservative. B...




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