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Trump - The Monster behind the Mask

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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

The fact that you feverishly hang on to what Trump says when it has been quote-mined and cherry picked, but don't listen it when it hasn't, is proof that you're only seeking advantage over your political adversaries for the sake of political points. This video is a straw man, and you hold it above your head in honour.

Make an argument, because this isn't one.




posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 06:01 AM
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It's quite telling when the haters resort to heavily edited clips of Trump versus decades of Hillary's lies, scandals and cover ups.
Many who voted for Obama now regret it, but want to put someone in the White House who will continue his road to ruin.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: AmericanRealist
a reply to: lortl

Actually so far, i don't think anyone has called him a name yet. I said "YOU SUCK" , but I was just goofin off. And then he made me cry.

But I see OP did in fact jump to names from the get go, and yet we merely came in and showed support for our candidate, well except me, I threw mud.

A strange world indeed.


No the OP asked to avoid attacking each other from the start. It was you who decided to sling mud, apparently "Just Playing". So I played back.

I guess I just play harder than you expected. Not my fault.

Didn't mean to make you cry though.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

From the horse's mouth. So, the people who support Freedom of Speech are just "foolish people". His connections with 'certain people' is very disturbing. There's a lot more going on with Donald Trump than I knew.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

If you think Trump is a monster, then vote for Hillary.

I don't really see what the issue is.

Some people like his message, some don't.

What exactly is the point you are making? Are you trying to change minds or just insult those that don't vote the same way you do?



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: violet
Some is taken out of context
. The first one " shut down the Internet" meant ISIS uses social media to recruit terrorists, or they communicate via SM


So we're going to shut down social media because of ISIS then??? I think the point is that Trump doesn't get that you don't just shut down the internet or get Bill Gates to somehow fight ISIS because that's not how it works.

More important IMO was his mocking comment and attitude about Freedom of Speech. Does it not concern you that the President of the US would have such an attitude about Freedom of Speech??


Mexicans bring in the drugs? Yes they do. Crime is up, violence is up, all sorts of issues related to drug addictions. Some are ok but the majority are thugs , like he says, except we can't say that anymore . Boo hoo. Except he did say it.


Yes Mexicans do bring in drugs. But they're far from the only ones. Drug trade is very good business and the low level guys bringing it over the boarder are the least of your worries when addressing the Drug Trade. But all that aside, the fact is that Crime is actually down as is violence overall and it has been going down for many years now. It has spikes here and there but overall it's down.


Some other things I agree with , but not gonna debate them with you. I didn't finish it, obvious it was just the same stuff we've seen a thousand times. It doesn't change opinions on him, if that's what you hoped.


Nope. Just thought I'd discuss some of it and see what some of you thought and why. Thanks for giving your take on things.


Mask? What mask? He hasn't hidden anything he has said. He said all this in public. Not much of a secret . He's only a monster to brainwashed people who've been trained to keep their mouths shut, thoughts to themselves



Mask I think because who he is, or who he presents to everyone is just the facade that he projects and it's all a sales pitch. Although I agree that what you see is what you get for the most part. But only because even his mask is a horrible mask only slightly more refined than what's behind it. It's like a Vampire wearing a mask of Frankenstein.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If you have a problem with the video or it's content why not point it out and we'll discuss it rather than attack me???

If you think videos of him speaking for himself isn't valid then show me why.

Also, I wasn't making an argument. I was posting something to discuss in any way you'd like. I left that open. Some people find the video to be a Pro-Trump video even. Which is odd because according to you the video is just a straw man and invalid which means anyone who likes the video and sees it as a Pro-Trump video would also be wrong now too.

I find that interesting. Maybe we should talk about that??

But again, why not talk about the video rather than discuss me if you think you can do that???



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Well, since this isn't about Hillary I'm not sure why you're bringing her up.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:25 AM
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Oh noes!
Your thread title "triggered" me...
So much so that I couldn't even bring myself to click the video.

But in all honesty OP I get so much enjoyment reading how actually triggered you all are about TRUMP!
What else would compel you to write this?
No real facts just an opinion piece accompanied by a bad youtube video.
NICE!!



Let's try and discuss the information this time instead of attacking those with different opinions. For a change let's also not attack me for simply posting it either

You ask for a civil discussion? Sure lets do that!
Oh wait...
Didn't you?


The title is of my own creation so those who don't like it, too bad, because I like it so you'll just have to deal with it.

Basically instigate thread drift by inciting people in the first line?
You reap what you sow my friend.
Definitely screams of someone who is in a worked up emotional state.
I love it!
Please do continue to post this stuff for us all to enjoy...

Guess I'll comment on you're OP.
This "monster" you refer to didn't even spank his children when raising them.
So there is that...



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

If you think Trump is a monster, then vote for Hillary.

I don't really see what the issue is.

Some people like his message, some don't.

What exactly is the point you are making? Are you trying to change minds or just insult those that don't vote the same way you do?



I don't want to vote for Hillary though. She's a monster of a different kind IMO.

I'm just trying to openly discuss Trump and the things he says, you know, his message which you seem to like so much. I don't find his message to be a good one. So that makes me wonder why we see it so differently.

Why does that threaten you and other Trump supporters so much??? What is the fear you have over discussing the person you support??? You don't have any trouble attacking any other candidate calling them Criminals, or Socialists, or Marxists, etc. But when the topic of Trump comes up you act as if it's blasphemy of the highest order.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: JAY1980

You sound like the one who's "Triggered" my friend.

Which is quite obvious since like the rest you simply can not or will not even watch the video but must instead automatically attack me instead.

Without even bothering to look at what I provided to discuss as a topic your instinct is to simply protect your Cult Leader you've chosen as your Savior. To me that is pretty interesting actually all on it's own.

I did ask for civil discussion and so far that's what I've done. Other than the one single post which was just a reply to someone who felt the need to not be civil first. So I answered in kind. If someone doesn't want to be civil I can be just as uncivilized back but that isn't what I'm here for.

So why not discuss the information rather than attack each other???



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: DBCowboy

If you think Trump is a monster, then vote for Hillary.

I don't really see what the issue is.

Some people like his message, some don't.

What exactly is the point you are making? Are you trying to change minds or just insult those that don't vote the same way you do?



I don't want to vote for Hillary though. She's a monster of a different kind IMO.


So who do you support?



I'm just trying to openly discuss Trump and the things he says, you know, his message which you seem to like so much. I don't find his message to be a good one. So that makes me wonder why we see it so differently.


Some people want Hillarys' big government, some want the establishment candidate, some don't.

Not that hard to figure out.


Why does that threaten you and other Trump supporters so much??? What is the fear you have over discussing the person you support??? You don't have any trouble attacking any other candidate calling them Criminals, or Socialists, or Marxists, etc. But when the topic of Trump comes up you act as if it's blasphemy of the highest order.


Nope. If we're free to discuss the communist leanings of Hillary, you should be free to disparage the capitalist leanings of Trump.

I can't be threatened. That's an awful silly term to use on the internet.

My words have just as much impact as yours. Which is none.

We're just two people with different views.

Seems to me though, since you want a discussion, that there is an awful lot of effort being used to point out the negatives of the candidates and nearly none on the positives of the candidates.

What are Hillary's positives compared to Trumps positives?

Now that would be an interesting discussion.

But if you want to call Trump a poo-head and lead a discussion on why we don't think he's a poo-head, please continue.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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A book is coming out in a couple of weeks called Trump Revealed, and although it is doubtful it will reveal more than anyone paying attention already knows, it may open up a few more eyes. He does not strike me as a good person or as a good candidate.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm




But again, why not talk about the video rather than discuss me if you think you can do that???


I did talk about the video. Quote-mining, deck stacking, out of context, misrepresenting, straw man. It's fallacious and false.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: StolidPanda


Thought they declared war against Hillary? Can't make up their minds?


This is a thread about Trump, so make it about Hillary? Is that all ya got?
'Cause that's already been done. And done. And done.


edit on 8/8/2016 by angeldoll because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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1. Internet - Why are ISIS supported sites running? Freedom of Speech? If the KKK posts to Facebook it is gone in seconds. The Internet is a breeding ground for hate and to be honest, I do not believe it should be protected by our constitution. There should be a new amendment passed regarding the internet and content.

2. Mexico - He said Mexico is sending its worst. Not all are, however, there are 1000's of cases of murder, rape, robbery, etc so yes, there are some scumbags coming from Mexico.

3. Illegal immigration - He is against illegal immigration. Not getting rid of immigration. He has said many times the BIG Wall will have a nice big door for legal people. Funny how they could not give any names. He employs 10's of thousands.

4. Muslims - There should be a different system in place. And so you know, there is already a database of Muslims at ICE. He is not against Muslims. He is against terror. Does no one remember

5. Birmingham Rally - So he tells security to remove a protester

6. HA! Old man punched a 'thug' protester. You show up and give people the finger and be ready. I have seen much worse from Hillary supporters and Bernie supporters at TRUMP rallies. Has there been a Trump supporter disrupting one of thier events? Have we all forgotten the removal of free speech by the DNC with the paid for protests in Chicago. They took over an arena...78 year old man...kids was a pussy.

7. The BLM guy. Yeah. Look him up.

8. Muslim Camps - WTF are these in America? These are real. It is not a conspiracy.

9. Playboy comments - So he thinks his daughter is attractive. You are all the perverts for thinking otherwise...

10. Tax those Chinese mofo's....PERFECT!

11. Surviellence of Mosques....amazing how there were no attacks till after 08 when we stopped doing this...

12. The reporter does not have Parkinsons...he was not mocking a reporter(who lied by the way)

13. Taking out terrorist families - The sitting POTUS killed a US citizen and his teenage son in a US drone strike. You are now upset with Trump? Turn it to glass...

14. He saw people cheering...this was well known at the time now it never happened.

They keep going back to the Birmingham rally...it was one of my best.

15 - BLM Bernie comment - You cannot let those things happen.

16 - Columbian woman - Can you find anyone that happy on the Clinton trail

17 David Johnston - Democracy now....Sorry, there was no one else to buy concrete from...I guess you are not from NY.

18 - Undocumented workers 35 years ago worked on a building. He hired a contractor and the sub contractor hired illegals. Like he said it is pathetic.

19. Convicted marijuana trader flew his helicopters. The POTUS was part of the Choom gang. WTFC.....

20. His sister is a Federal Judge. Sounds like a great family. Clintons relatives...yeah.. hahahaha

21. Ted Cruz - Sounded like Clinton when he said he did not have affairs.....His wife is nuts too....

22. Obama - He is a classless scumbag. NO two term sitting POTUS has campaigned or discussed the opposition the way he is.

23. Clothes made in China - There is no manufacturing in the US. This is the fault of HIllarys husband and current Trade deals with China and other Asian nations who make all sorts of things. How about bringing it back and paying people 15 bucks an hour to work in a factory?


There is nothing of substance nor anything new. Where does it show him being a monster. I mean, i at least thought Vera Coking would be in here....



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: rukia

One thing Mr. Trump has over Hillary is his Health . He looks like he could Physically Handle being the POTUS in the Next 4 Years , but I Doubt Hillary would even last a Year before she totally loses her Mind and Body to Numerous Physical Ailments .
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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Nothing in that video, and I watched it all, concerns me in the least. I honestly do not understand why any American citizen would be concerned with concepts supporting stronger border security, positions to reclaim America's jobs and prosperity, a stronger policy of national protection against Islamofascism, and fighting the war against terror to actually win it for a change.

Anon just put out a good campaign video in favor of voting Trump in November.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm
Sorry, I can't do the quoting on my device to say what I'm replying to. You said low level drug trade across the border is the least of my worries. My point was drugs, cause major problems. Yes they do cause crime and I don't care if you think crime is down. In the world of drugs it is not! Addicts will do anything to buy that next hit, even if it's only $20 they need. So they rob people. I'm not going to go on about all the things drug use cause.

These low level smugglers make a pretty good living. It's a lot easier to smuggle it across land borders than say from China. Canada ( where I live, so I'm not voting in your election!) also smuggles drugs. Usually it's tha lationo's who are involved.

To say a small percentage of Mexicans are ok, isn't enough.

However, it matters not, you simply should not be allowed to just barge your way in to other countries! I didn't get to do that. Same with the Muslim refugees with no background checks. If this keeps up, we will have such a high population of them, they will become the majority, our religions, replaced with theirs, our language to theirs and so on.


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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

So who do you support?


At the moment nobody. If I have to choose I'd probably go with a 3rd party for a change, maybe. I may just not vote at all.


Some people want Hillarys' big government, some want the establishment candidate, some don't.

Not that hard to figure out.


Ya, I get that believe me, that is very, very clear. Hillary is Establishment full on and is tied to every institution and organization that has a death grip over this nation and has for a long time now.

The thing is that I don't think Trump can actually do anything about the Establishment. I don't think he understands what he's actually up against and that they will play him as they do everyone else who doesn't understand the power they actually have over this world. I also don't think he can be trusted with the kind of position he's going for. In some ways that is good, but in others it's very bad.


Nope. If we're free to discuss the communist leanings of Hillary, you should be free to disparage the capitalist leanings of Trump.

I can't be threatened. That's an awful silly term to use on the internet.

My words have just as much impact as yours. Which is none.

We're just two people with different views.

Seems to me though, since you want a discussion, that there is an awful lot of effort being used to point out the negatives of the candidates and nearly none on the positives of the candidates.

What are Hillary's positives compared to Trumps positives?


Perhaps threatened was the wrong word. You just seem to be very defensive when it comes to Trump. It seems that attacking anyone else is just fine but when it comes to Trump he's allowed to do anything. Although I would add that you specifically aren't as bad as others. I've read many of your posts over the past month or so and I've come to see you in a different light than I did previously. You're more balanced and fair than I once thought. For what it's worth you've earned some respect IMO.


Now that would be an interesting discussion.

But if you want to call Trump a poo-head and lead a discussion on why we don't think he's a poo-head, please continue.


That's fair. I'm not calling him a poo-head as I think he's much worse than that. But to be fair I don't think he's all bad in what he says he wants to do. It's true I think his character as a person is not leadership material. Not that he can't lead of course but that he's not a great leader. He's too ego minded and too worried about his own image and he spends too much time worrying about himself rather than what he's actually doing. At the same time he has no problem attacking others and slandering them in any and every way, even if what he says is completely false or inaccurate. In a position of power that makes for someone that is far too heavy handed. In a business setting that may be ok. People can always quit if they don't like the bosses rules. But we aren't employees. We don't work for the President or the Government. They are supposed to work for us.

I admit some of the things he says he wants to do I also support. The problem is that I don't believe him when he says them. He tells people what they want to hear so he can go about doing what he wants. That's how his business deals work too. I don't trust him. Along with His success in the past he has also caused a lot of damage for others in the process without any care at all. It's about what he wants and what he thinks and to hell with everyone else. He has no ability to compromise with anything. He doesn't take any responsibility for failing or damage he causes. In fact he won't even admit that they ever happened. But they did happen. He sees admitting fault as a weakness but when it's true and accurate it takes a much bigger man to admit that than to run from it.

As for Hillary, I don't have much to say about her because I don't like her, I keep saying that. I don't trust her. I think she'll say whatever she needs to until she's elected and then all promises are void and she'll do exactly what she's wanted to do all along. She'll give us up to Corporate Rule. She'll be the Establishment Queen of Imperialism as always. She will push for more Globalist Equalization around the world and cause the gap between wealthy and poor to increase while killing the middle class of America. I don't like her and have nothing good I can say about her either because like Trump I don't trust her.




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