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A Critical Look at The Mandela Effect - ME & its relation to CERN & Meme Theory

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posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:12 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

Are you still pushing that non argument?




posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:29 AM
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a reply to: Reverbs

Someone like her I meant to say.

How can someone who remembers everything accurately not be a useful tool on this subject?



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:38 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Reverbs

Someone like her I meant to say.

How can someone who remembers everything accurately not be a useful tool on this subject?


gotcha but she doesn't.

I wondered on every word what I could change to get some sense, but didn't expect you to still be talking about a person who doesn't see reality clearly.

How would you go about disproving a mandela effect?

"she" was not trusted with guarding you all against nukes, but I was.
My psychology and memory have been tested countless times.
I even had personal guard detail on the 3rd in command of the entire base at FT Benning.

Why would someone like me with background checks to get clearance, be so strongly in favor of memories you do not posses?

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posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:41 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: boncho

It's called Argumentum ad populum

Also explains flat earthers...

Funny that you mention FE, as the Mandela effect is equally absurd.


It's not though. And if it was your fallacy is fallacy fallacy My OP, if you read it is actually the opposite of Argument Ad Populum or at least it's 1/3rd opposing. While I don't rule out it's simply a trend created out of our current need to create [it still has a chicken/egg argument within], and it also has two other possible answers, 1-someone created it on purpose (with the attention it got so quickly it wouldn't surprise me), and 2-the chance it's actually real and some affect beyond the psychological effect is felt (or the psychological effect, the documented scientific effect in itself is because of a metaphysical ripple (in every case where 'a' was 'e' or 'in' was 'and' -and in each instance both instances exist separately in multiple universes among our mirrored selves and experience non-local waves of what is and isn't, which cases us to misremember (as highly unlikely as it is). Any explanation so complicated is obviously not falsifiable, but it's ignorant to think that everything must be. It simply limits our understanding [and imagination]. If philosophers and early scientists had only stuck to falsifiable evidence we'd be sitting in around thinking about the same things they did, thousands of years ago. If they totally ignored it, we'd be there too.

There has to be an area in the middle where all types can co-exist. And no matter how well versed you or anyone thinks they are in their world view, it helps seeing things from an alt-perspective sometimes.

I'd argue it's nearly impossible for Flat Earth to have gained as many viewers and proponents as it had, without someone designing or affecting, or influencing the current trend (though it could be a result of a larger trend across the entire population).

Though it naturally didn't take on such a wide audience when the internet first arrived, and even after the conspiracy sets had set their place. I'd also argue there is quantifiable influence to political discussion in conspiracy websites and elsewhere on the web, and Id probably have a decent argument with how much evidence has come out showing it's a reality. Ruling out outside influence without any reason or evidence to do so, for what? To pat ourselves on the back...no.


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posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:48 AM
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a reply to: boncho

he tried to change reality on his own when I responded to that link.

He does not respect truth and is actively trying to obfuscate, for his own ego or whatever else.



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:48 AM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Basically the point I was trying to make is that - if you changed history, your memories and experiences should also be changed along with it. How can everything be altered in a reality/existence for the exception of certain peoples minds?

If I went back in time and made it so that JFK did not get killed, then that is what everyone will remember in the future of that reality.



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: boncho

Gotta disagree, Mandela effect is driven by others affirming one another.

Seen plenty of posts here that cite their evidence for their claims by referring to others who agree with their premise.

Reddit and YouTube for example.



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: nOraKat
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Basically the point I was trying to make is that - if you changed history, your memories and experiences should also be changed along with it. How can everything be altered in a reality/existence for the exception of certain peoples minds?

If I went back in time and made it so that JFK did not get killed, then that is what everyone will remember in the future of that reality.


That's a guess on your part.

There is no science on whether everyone or only certain people would remember an old or a new set of realities.



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:57 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: boncho

Gotta disagree, Mandela effect is driven by others affirming one another.

Seen plenty of posts here that cite their evidence for their claims by referring to others who agree with their premise.

Reddit and YouTube for example.



Now you've made a point. Too bad I must sleep soon.
I'll hold onto that if you are at all interested in helping me

trouble is you proved
both sides.

"by others affirming one another."


but you are thinking at least.

good night guys.

Love you all including chadwicus and boncho.
It's a good discussion. Just tired of lazy answers on both sides.


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posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 05:59 AM
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originally posted by: Reverbs
a reply to: boncho

he tried to change reality on his own when I responded to that link.

He does not respect truth and is actively trying to obfuscate, for his own ego or whatever else.



Excuse me?

Where have I obfuscated?

You asked how I would go about disproving the Mandela effect,I linked you to a thread about someone who remembers everything, suggesting someone like her should get asked about it.

I've actually thought outside the box, and brought a new angle to this topic, and you dare say I'm obfuscating??



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

you're obfuscating

edit on 8/7/2016 by awareness10 because: Whoops madela effect



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus


originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Reverbs

You're scientific you say?

Yet can't follow a link?

The argumentum ad populum link wasn't what I posted to you was it?

Try again.

www.abovetopsecret.com...




but the other link WAS what you posted to me and what I was talking about the link boncho has above and to me directly on page 2 I responded to..

So you are getting nutty or trying to lie.

here:


originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: boncho

It's called Argumentum ad populum

Also explains flat earthers...

Funny that you mention FE, as the Mandela effect is equally absurd.


That's what I respond to by your link and you say I'm missing your link..

Got it?


And here is the IRONY...



This type of argument is known by several names,[1] including appeal to the masses, appeal to belief, appeal to the majority, appeal to democracy, appeal to popularity, argument by consensus, consensus fallacy, authority of the many, and bandwagon fallacy (also known as a vox populi),


That's YOU...

I'm appealing to a minority..

understand ?

It's comical you don't know the words you are using, but it doesn't help me help you in any way.
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posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: awareness10

Whoah that's a new one I never heard before (from the video you posted) - that many people remember a large land mass to the left of Australia. (I don't.) ..The land mass the many people remember is visible on the globe used in the movie - Dazed and Confused! It would be interesting if someone could watch the movie and confirm that it is on the globe.



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: Reverbs

No it wasn't. My post is unedited, and it links to my thread. You asked how to disprove the mandela effect, That thread is what I linked to.



Read properly before you call me a liar.

And you're on a conspiracy forum, your well and truly in the majority.


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posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:26 AM
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a reply to: awareness10

Prove where then?

Come on, put your money where your mouth is.



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:37 AM
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GBa reply to: Chadwickus

hah... simpleton.🚾



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:38 AM
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edit on 7/8/16 by Chadwickus because: Not worth it.



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:39 AM
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a reply to: nOraKat

It's a good one eh!



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

You certainly are Chad old boy. Bully behaviourisms on every thread.



posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 07:14 AM
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a reply to: boncho

If I read that correctly...

What about this... You're theorizing that the (Illuminati) create(s)(d) conspiracies to 'distract' from something else. That's the manner of speaking that I took away... if that was a safe take away...

...you just authored a thread about a conspiracy theory involving a connection between two other (or more perhaps) conspiracy theories.

Hello Pot? ...this is Kettle calling... I'm just calling to tell you.. you're black...

Sooo... in effect, doesn't that make you... 'They'?



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