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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 12:24 PM
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The Bible is our witness, and there is not one apostle or disciple
in the New Testament when physically assaulted, responded
with a physical defense.

I know many of the enemies of Christ are trying to find scriptures
that prove they did, but good luck, since there are none.

How did the apostle Paul respond;
2Tim 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch,
at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I ENDURED: but out of
them all the Lord delivered me.

2Thess 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God
for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations
THAT YE ENDURE.

But the scriptures already instruct a Disciple of Christ what to do
under persecution. THEY ARE TO ENDURE IT, if you can't endure it,
you're not one of Christ sheep. A physical defense is the reaction
of the natural man still under the power of sin and rebellion against
Christ and the Word of God.

Many so-called Christians despise the teaching of Christ to
NOT RESIST EVIL, because they own a GUN, and if they catch
someone climbing through their window, they'll blow their
head off. Don't deny it, as you know it's true.

In their pride they think their SUPERFICIAL MATERIAL WEALTH
they've accrued justifies them taking someones life.

How SICK.
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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: MrBlaq
The Bible is our witness, and there is not one apostle or disciple
in the New Testament when physically assaulted, responded
with a physical defense.

I know many of the enemies of Christ are trying to find scriptures
that prove they did, but good luck, since there are none.

How did the apostle Paul respond;
2Tim 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch,
at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I ENDURED: but out of
them all the Lord delivered me.

2Thess 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God
for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations
THAT YE ENDURE.

But the scriptures already instruct a Disciple of Christ what to do
under persecution. THEY ARE TO ENDURE IT, if you can't endure it,
you're not one of Christ sheep. A physical defense is the reaction
of the natural man still under the power of sin and rebellion against
Christ and the Word of God.

Many so-called Christians despise the teaching of Christ to
NOT RESIST EVIL, because they own a GUN, and if they catch
someone climbing through their window, they'll blow their
head off. Don't deny it, as you know it's true.

In their pride they think their SUPERFICIAL MATERIAL WEALTH
they've accrued justifies them taking someones life.

How SICK.


hmmm...let me see if i am understanding correctly. by employing auto-martyrdom as a device of piety, you are attempting to convert surrender into victory. self-destruction becomes an act of righteousness. to use your words: how sick.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm


hmmm...let me see if i am understanding correctly. by employing
auto-martyrdom as a device of piety, you are attempting to convert
surrender into victory. self-destruction becomes an act of righteousness.
to use your words: how sick.


"Resist Not Evil” is The Supreme Test of Christian Discipleship, it does
not necessary mean if a Christians is persecuted he'll become a martyr.

When a Christian experiences a born again experience, he is
translated spiritually from the Kingdoms of this world, into
the Kingdom of God. At that point he is only obligated to
obey the laws of man's Government if they agree with the
laws of God. And the law of God is LOVE -thou shalt love
thy neighbor as thyself.

Under the laws of men and mans Government, men have
the right of retaliation & defense. No such law exist for
those of God's Kingdom, since it contradicts Christ
teaching of DO NOT RESIST EVIL. Neither would they have a
desire to practice self defense, because self defense
is NOT the Spirit of Christ.

WHY?

The self-assumed right of retaliation, is but the reasoning of
the nature man, based upon the laws & Government of men,
but the spiritual man follows the Kingdom of God principles,
imitating Christ "who, when he was reviled, reviled not again,
when he suffered, he threatened not, but committed himself
to him that judgeth righteously" (1 Pet 2:23)

I can only conclude that those who advocate retaliation have
no real understanding of what HUMILITY is.

You'll find this is the #1 Doctrine of Christ that the majority of
professing Christians refuse to obey.

But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good
to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray
for them which despitefully use you.And unto him that smiteth
thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that
taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.



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posted on Aug, 9 2016 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: Muffenstuff
Oh Gnosisisfaith you are back again.

My spelling mistakes are not an issue seeing you knew who I was speaking of.

The most perverted Bible are the Catholic Bibles and the Vulgate being it chiefest of perversions written from Alexandria Egypt by Jerome.



posted on Aug, 9 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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MrBlaq

A thought provoking OP, thank you. Can you clarify some things for me?
In Luke 22, Jesus tells his disciples, essentially, to be ready for trouble. He instructs them as follows:

35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

He doesn't tell them to buy a spear, or a bow & arrow, both of which could be used for hunting. He tells them to buy a sword. Yet, it wouldn't have been for the confrontation at Gethsemane, right, since He rebukes Peter's violence there. (It has always been my understanding of that passage that He rebuked Peter because Peter still didn't get - or refused to accept - that Jesus had to suffer & die and thus His capture also had to happen.) To the point, why would our Lord tell His disciples to purchase an implement that has no other purpose besides violence? Is it possible that He is allowing for self-defense here?

Why also do we not see Him rebuke the centurion in Matthew 8 for persisting in a career predicated on violence? Instead, He praises him for having more faith as a Gentile than the Israelites.

These questions are in earnest - I'm interested in your responses.

I honestly cannot say what my reaction would be to the hypothetical situation in your original post. Ideally, I would pray for the thief/kidnapper and for the safety & return of my child, trusting the Father to take care of it. However, knowing I am a human and we are fallen and sinful by nature, I suspect I would at a minimum try to get between the intruder and my child to give them time to run.

Interesting - and not particularly comfortable - thing to contemplate. Of course, that's the kind of situation the evil one likes to arrange to try to trip us up, yes?



posted on Aug, 9 2016 @ 04:03 PM
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A thought provoking OP, thank you. Can you clarify some things for me?
In Luke 22, Jesus tells his disciples, essentially, to be ready for trouble.
He instructs them as follows:


The following spoken by Christ is not a parable, it's a direct
statement, not only for Peter, but for anyone else who fits the
description of Peter's behavior. (Main point placed in Caps)

Then said Yahushua unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place:
FOR ALL THEY THAT TAKE THE SWORD SHALL PERISH WITH THE SWORD.

The apostle Paul gives directions on how Disciples of Christ are to respond
when being assaulted. Remember this was a period of time when Christ
Disciples were being assaulted almost daily, many of them murdered.

Dearly beloved, AVENGE NOT YOURSELVES, but rather give place unto
wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:
for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not
overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. (Rom 12:19-21


These instructions from Paul are not hard to understand. Paul under
the inspiration of the Spirit understood that vengeance against ones
enemies IS being overcome of evil. To fight against evil with physical
defensive measures, and revenge is a deception.

Satan wants God's people to strike back and fight PHYSICALLY, since
he understands to do so is contrary to GOD's Spirit, FOR GOD IS LOVE,
and His Spirit is LOVE.

The Disciple is to fight evil with spiritual weapons, and performing GOOD
for his enemy just as Paul instructed, because in doing so he counteracts
the works of evil, and in some cases bring conviction. When the Disciple
obeys these instructions, he affirms God is LOVE, and God's Spirit can then
work many wonderful things in the spiritual and natural realm. But if a
Disciple responds like the ungodly they'll only perpetuate evil.

For example: If someone tries to sue a Disciple in a court of law, if he
follows Christ and the Apostles teaching, he would simply give them what
they want. Without spending more time, money and heartache in a drawn
out trial.

That may seem foolish in the eyes of the world, but that's only because the
world lives for material possessions, while the Disciple seeks things that are
above, and understands that God who blessed him with material possessions
taken by force,can simply bless him again.

It's my understanding sometimes God orchestrates such events
(comparable to Job) to TEST and strengthen a Disciples Faith.

Following every commandment & teaching from Christ & the Apostles
is truly an act of FAITH. We either trust in ourselves and follow the methods
used by the ungodly, or we trust God and obey His Word.

I wont post all of Galatians Chapter 5 here, but I'm sure you already know how
the works of the flesh are opposite a lifestyle and behavior of those who walk in
the Spirit. If one is walking in the spirit he will not follow the works of the flesh
and avenge himself.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

MLK and Ghandi followed a nonresistance strategy, and we already know what
they've accomplished.

THERE SHOULD ALWAYS BE A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE FROM HOW A DISCIPLE
RESPONDS TO ASSAULT COMPARED TO THOSE WHO DON'T FOLLOW CHRIST
TEACHINGS.

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posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

You missed the entire point. This cop allowed the anger of the person in the car to get to him. The cop turned on the camera after the person in the car got angry in order to . . . i don't know what, but it should have been on from the outset. The points where the cop failed miserably at personal safety were that he stood in the street where traffic could easily take him out (2 vehicles almost did), he placed himself in a dangerous position in front of the driver's window (across the dead man's line), he allowed the driver to yank his ticket book out of his hands (lack of awareness), and he not only allowed an angry person out of the vehicle in close proximity but invited them to do so (stepping further into the street while doing so). About the only thing the trooper did right was to not turn his back on the driver. No, an officer should never allow someone they are dealing with to get under their skin; but this video shows a trooper who allowed the driver to control their movements and effect their judgement. So yes, lots of things could have gone wrong due to this officer's bad judgement. As such I say again that this is a very bad video for this example. That is all.



posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 12:13 AM
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a reply to: MrBlaq




It's my understanding sometimes God orchestrates such events (comparable to Job) to TEST and strengthen a Disciples Faith.


You mean where the 'gods' are making bets on who has the most loyal subjects?



posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 03:05 AM
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a reply to: JDeLattre89

I am not a cop, yes I missed the point.

The point is the cop didnt kill anyone, thats nice for a change
The cop was even handed and calm, he has my respect



posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 03:06 AM
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a reply to: JDeLattre89

I only know of one God, he's known as the Most High, some
call Him Father. The behavior of anyone making bets like
those in a gambling casino characterizes the
enemies of God.



posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: MrBlaq
If a Christian witnesses a robber jump through his house window
and tried to kidnap his daughter, how would you expect him to respond?

His response should match the teachings of Christ which commanded;


Matt 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Matt 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.


There may be some who disagree, or think it's naturally impossible
to follow Christ RESIST NOT EVIL commandment. For the natural man
this is impossible, but for those who walk in the Spirit all things are possible with God.

To those who may disbelief this doctrine there's a book called FOXES BOOK
OF MARTYRS that gives hundreds of detailed accounts of true stories in
how Christ disciples behaved themselves, and responded in the face of evil.

Many of these people were dragged out of their houses.
When husbands witnessed persecutors grabbing their wives and
children, they did NOT try to DEFEND their wife or children.

FOXES BOOK OF MARTYRS --> www.ccel.org...

How come they didn't fight back or try to defend themselves?

These people were genuine Christians and displayed their faith
in obedience to Christ commandments "RESIST NOT EVIL"
Some of these Christians would actually sing as they were
being burned at the stake.

Their ability to TURN THE OTHER CHEEK while themselves
and their families were being pummeled is genuine evidence
they had the Spirit of Christ.

The notion that one is supposed to fight or defend themselves against evil
is not a Christian doctrine. It's a false doctrine that influences people it's
OK with God to defend against your enemy, or even to kill ones enemy.

Imagine a Christian sent by his Government to fight in a war.
As he's firing his rifle at the enemy, how would he know he's
not shooting dead another brother in Christ?

See how devilish that is?

Christians would only be a conscientious objector, and if Military service
required them to take an oath, they'd flee from possible persecution, since Christ disciples
are commanded to never take an oath.

Someone who responds to defend, or take revenge against their
enemy does not have the Spirit of Christ.


The Bible doesn't really have much to say, explicitly, about self-defense in the new testament. But Romans 12 elaborates further on what Jesus meant when he commanded us not to retaliate the old school way, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, or cheek for cheek. Instead of the good old testament way of conducting yourself, he says do the exact opposite and turn the other cheek. In Romans 12, Paul elaborates on what exactly Jesus meant by "turning the other cheek". He simply meant not to retaliate against the evil actions of another, with evil actions of your own. He says to bless those that persecute you and treat your enemies the same way you would want to be treated. Forgive them and live peaceably with your enemies, but only IF POSSIBLE. In other words, if some guy kicks in your door with the intent of harming you and your family, you may not be given any other choice but to resort to self-defense. If a girl is getting dragged into an alley about to get raped, Jesus Christ did not nor would he command that girl to just lay there and allow the scum to rape her. If possible, live peaceably with your enemies, but if it ain't possible, then its time to jump into action and do whats necessary to defend yourself. Seeking vengeance and defending yourself are two entirely different things as shown in Romans 12.


(Romans 12:14-19) "Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. [15] Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. [16] Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. [17] Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. [18] If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. [19] Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."


When Jesus told his disciples to buy a sword, the pacifists dismiss that it was for their own self-defense, because when Peter cut off the mans ear with his sword, Jesus told him to put it away. They never point out the fact that he told Peter to stop because the prophecy of his death and Resurrection would not be fulfilled. The prophecy had to be fulfilled, it had nothing at all to do with Jesus allegedly being against the act of self-defense. Jesus is the King of kings, the creator of the universe, if he wanted to really defend himself, he could have called down legions of angels and eviscerated every single one of those aggressors faster than they can say 'Satan'. So lets not rob scripture of its context to make it say something it is not.


(Matthew 26:50-54) "And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus, and took him. [51] And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear. [52] Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. [53] Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? [54] But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?"


Jesus Christ was no pacifist when he laid the smack down in the temple, flipping over the tables of the money changers, and neither does he ever tell us to be the same in regards to criminal acts against ones own well being. If somebody is trying to harm me in some way, you can rest assured that I will not be judged if I pump the scum full of hot, sexy lead. Let scripture speak for itself, let reason prevail, and let the private interpretations of men stand as lies.


(Matthew 21:12-13) "¶ And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, [13] And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."



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posted on Aug, 10 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: Dcopymope

[QUOTE]Jesus Christ was no pacifist when he laid the smack
down in the temple, flipping over the tables of the money
changers, and neither does he ever tell us to be the same in
regards to criminal acts against ones own well being. If
somebody is trying to harm me in some way, you can rest assured
that I will not be judged if I pump the scum full of hot, sexy lead.
Let scripture speak for itself, let reason prevail, and let the private
interpretations of men stand as
lies.[/QUOTE]

No one was murdered in Christ whipping people out of the Temple.
I've already posted more than enough scriptures to prove that
self defense is the actions of those still under the power of the
flesh. In your Theology you'd have Christ heading overseas
to murder his enemies because the Government approves it.

Turning the other cheek is the only self defense taught by
Christ, which is also what Paul and Peter taught, which
is forbearance and to endure when one is assaulted.

You can't ENDURE because you have not Christ Spirit.

You really have to twist scripture to transform turning
the other cheek to self defense. One can never
understand any teachings of Christ when they destroy
the common meaning of words.

Your Theology is why professing Christians MURDER,
MAIM and DESTROY multiples of people, all in the
name of self defense.

It's not the Doctrine of Christ, it's a Doctrine of Satan.

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posted on Aug, 12 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: MrBlaq


Text Providing for ones house does not mean you KILL people in trying to defend a family member. That's complete foolishness. Your understanding rejects the teaching of Christ that you are NOT TO RESIST EVIL. But in your rage against Christ and his teaching you trample the Word of God under your feet and seek revenge against your enemy that you might take his life. Simply read the Foxes Book of Martyr and tell me why none of those people tried to defend their family members? I doubt you'll take time to read the book, since it contradicts your understanding of how the true Disciples of Christ behave under persecution. There's a reason you twist the scripture and advocate death to your enemy.


Do you understand who the Christ Jesus was and is? Do you understand that the incarnated Jesus was the same that gave the laws to Adam and the laws to Noah and the laws on Sinai to the Hebrews? Are you aware that the incarnated Jesus is your Creator? Do you understand that the Christ did not revoke any of the law to any of his Creation? If you need not the law then you are not in truth as the law is written in the heart. I did not mention death or advocate hate. That was your intent. You need to review the word forgiveness because not one living soul can be without it.



posted on Aug, 12 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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Do you understand who the Christ Jesus was and is? Do you understand that the incarnated Jesus was the same that gave the laws to Adam and the laws to Noah and the laws on Sinai to the Hebrews? Are you aware that the incarnated Jesus is your Creator? Do you understand that the Christ did not revoke any of the law to any of his Creation? If you need not the law then you are not in truth as the law is written in the heart. I did not mention death or advocate hate. That was your intent. You need to review the word forgiveness because not one living soul can be without it.



Your lack of Bible study is apparent.
Any 10 year old Sunday school child can refute
your notion that the old testament ordinances
are still in affect. Which they are not.

You really think God's people should make an altar
and start sacrificing sheep like they did under
the old testament? That's beyond hilarious.

So, where are all the people stoned to death
for adultery, or disrespect towards their parents
under the New Covenant if your ideas are true?

No one (thank God) is stoned for those offenses
anymore under the New Covenant

The Law was given until the Messiah, but now that
Christ has appeared God's people are no longer
under the old testament ordinances.

This might help;

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made
the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is
ready to VANISH AWAY.

Everything of God is now based upon a NEW Covenant, your
understanding is outside the plain teachings of scripture.


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posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 01:12 AM
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originally posted by: MrBlaq
a reply to: JDeLattre89

I only know of one God, he's known as the Most High, some
call Him Father. The behavior of anyone making bets like
those in a gambling casino characterizes the
enemies of God.



I only know of one god as well and it exists everywhere and within everyone, even your Jesus said as much if you actually pay attention. And by your definition those followers of your god are characterized as enemies of god. For if they believe in your one god, then they are gambling their eternity on one choice out of infinite number of choices of gods that have existed, exist, and will exist. Now if you could please try to explain the difference between your god and another say Zeus for example and why yours is real and that one is not?



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 12:18 PM
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Your lack of Bible study is apparent. Any 10 year old Sunday school child can refute your notion that the old testament ordinances are still in affect. Which they are not. You really think God's people should make an altar and start sacrificing sheep like they did under the old testament? That's beyond hilarious. So, where are all the people stoned to death for adultery, or disrespect towards their parents under the New Covenant if your ideas are true? No one (thank God) is stoned for those offenses anymore under the New Covenant The Law was given until the Messiah, but now that Christ has appeared God's people are no longer under the old testament ordinances. This might help; Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to VANISH AWAY. Everything of God is now based upon a NEW Covenant, your understanding is outside the plain teachings of scripture.

Not meaning disrespect but you have not answered my posting questions. By not answering the question of who the Creator is shows me your ignorance of what the laws of the Creator were and are.

I suggest that you study Commandments , statutes, law, and ordinances and realize that the Christ Jesus taught and preached every law He gave Adam, Noah and Moses. The civil punishments of those commandments are governed by the cultures of which the Creator gave to those in His covenants and in respect to the agreements (covenants) of those cultures

Adultery has and is still a law and was punished by death in the ordinance of Moses but not so in Grace of the Christ. Sin offerings were ordained in the Mosaic covenant but not so in the blood covenant of the Christ Jesus. Nevertheless the same sin is always present. The law is always present and never becomes the Father's perfect will. The ordinances can change with the Father's permissive will but not with His perfect will.

Not one person has nor can become perfect and with that understanding you should be aware that those that disagree with you are not subservient to you.

The sceptre (civil authority and not the law) was given to the tribe of Judah till the Messiah (Word -Jesus) returns and takes the sceptre for His one thousand years reign. Even then and till the end of this terrestrial world the laws of the Creator are still in effect.

May I suggest that you first understand who Jesus was and is now. Hell is still very much alive and full of the same mind set you have. When the Christ returns He will rule with a rod of iron and you seem not to realize what that means. It most certainly does not mean to cower as a murderer is about to slaughter your household. That is insanity.



posted on Aug, 13 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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I only know of one god as well and it exists everywhere and within
everyone, even your Jesus said as much if you actually pay attention. And
by your definition those followers of your god are characterized as enemies
of god. For if they believe in your one god, then they are gambling their
eternity on one choice out of infinite number of choices of gods that
have existed, exist, and will exist. Now if you could please try to explain
the difference between your god and another say Zeus for example and
why yours is real and that one is not?


Christ in speaking to the Pharisees stated, YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER
THE DEVIL, it should be common sense that a man can't be both of
God and of the Devil at the same time.

I know you've never read the bible or you would know this scripture;

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of
his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

zeus is a children's story, and nothing more than mythology. I think
it's absurd and an insult to God you compare him to mythology which
is nothing more than a work of fiction.

From this moment, you or anyone else who propose bizarre theories,
without providing PROOF TEXT from the Bible to validate your
doctrine will be ignored. I don't have time to play games.



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 02:50 AM
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originally posted by: MrBlaq
a reply to: JDeLattre89


I only know of one god as well and it exists everywhere and within
everyone, even your Jesus said as much if you actually pay attention. And
by your definition those followers of your god are characterized as enemies
of god. For if they believe in your one god, then they are gambling their
eternity on one choice out of infinite number of choices of gods that
have existed, exist, and will exist. Now if you could please try to explain
the difference between your god and another say Zeus for example and
why yours is real and that one is not?


Christ in speaking to the Pharisees stated, YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER
THE DEVIL, it should be common sense that a man can't be both of
God and of the Devil at the same time.

I know you've never read the bible or you would know this scripture;

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of
his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

zeus is a children's story, and nothing more than mythology. I think
it's absurd and an insult to God you compare him to mythology which
is nothing more than a work of fiction.

From this moment, you or anyone else who propose bizarre theories,
without providing PROOF TEXT from the Bible to validate your
doctrine will be ignored. I don't have time to play games.




You see, here it is you whom has the burden of proof. I asked you to prove legitimacy of your god over any other god and simply gave Zeus as an example. Instead you say that any other religion is a myth but your which has the same basis as any other. Also, while you may have memorized your bible versus, you failed to learn the difference between a literal statement and a paradox. Enjoy



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: MrBlaq


From this moment, you or anyone else who propose bizarre theories, without providing PROOF TEXT from the Bible to validate your doctrine will be ignored. I don't have time to play games.

Your proof text does not exist. You can not show anyone the autographs of any one word of both the Hebrew and Greek texts of your faith. You are a charlatan and quite frankly you do not understand your own game. If you were as you try to show you would be more than happy to teach others the way to salvation but instead brush off those that may need teaching. That is blood on your head according to your proof texts.

To have wisdom is to first understand who your Creator is and you have skirted that question with your gobble gook self sanctification. I have asked a very simple question twice now. Who is the Nazarene Jesus? That is not a bizarre question but should be the primary point of which the entire NT bible is centered. If you will not answer that then that alone shows me your intent to deceive.



posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 01:27 PM
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I can answer your simple question Seede.

Jesus of Nazarene was a man. But he was more than just such, he was also a student of far eastern philosophies and a Rabbi of the Hebrew church. As such he would be required to be married and preferably with children, less nobody would heed his teachings. Above and beyond that, he was a man on a higher level of enlightenment and may have even found enlightenment in the end of his days, as shown by his knowing that he was not only a child of god but also god.




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