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Why is Tubal Cain revered by Masons?

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posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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Trying to learn about Manly P Hall

In the quote below Offical Mason Manly (has a nice ring to it)
he is speaking for himself ?
To clarify it is his opinion ?
not that of Masons

" He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare." [Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree, K.T., The Lost Keys of Freemasonry or The Secret of Hiram Abiff , Forward by Reynold E. Blight. "




That Masons revere Tubal Cain is merely your opinion, not ours. Neither Hall nor the blog has authority to dictate Masonic policy, that is left to each Grand Lodge.

This is true ?
Manly P. Hall is only speaking for himself ?



Further, from a site responding to the slanderous accusations of a particular website and written by a Mason, after Tubal-Cain's mention by Hall that the Mason should emulate his forefather Tubal-Cain (written in 1923, or published in) while the Mason refutes several erroneous accusations by the anti Mason

Source is [Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree, K.T., The Lost Keys of Freemasonry or The Secret of Hiram
i take it ?



You're trying (badly) to make connections where there are none.

Manly P. Hall as a Mason appears to make them
but is he just speaking for himself ?

from another thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...


When I say 'made them up' it was without any inside knowledge of Masonry, its rituals or symbolism. He wrote his own opinions which were not based on any type of real world interaction.
- Gaius Octavius

" it was without any inside knowledge of Masonry "
Tubal Cain being one of them ?
Manly P. Hall as a Mason is not a reliable source ?
What reason is there to doubt his credibilty ?
if there is any ?

Thank you in advance for any light and clarity
you can shed on it , my apologies to those that have done this before

"Man is God in the making.."


edit on 11-8-2016 by kibric because: vallalaar




posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: kibric

Didn't Hall write this book in the early 1920''s and didn't even join Freemasonry until the mid 50's? How can a non Mason's work/belief close to 30 years before he even joined be used as solid evidence for anything let alone a blanket statement like "Why is Tubal Cain revered by Masons"?



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
Didn't Hall write this book in the early 1920''s and didn't even join Freemasonry until the mid 50's? How can a non Mason's work/belief close to 30 years before he even joined be used as solid evidence for anything...


Good question.

Seems as long as it appeals to your agenda you can listen to anyone whether they have experience with the topic or not.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Well you do mention him 1 time which is all the evidence I need that Freemason's hold Cain in high regard. I did hear that when a Freemason is on trail all he has to do is say the word "tubal cain" and he get's off scot-free.



posted on Aug, 11 2016 @ 07:38 PM
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"Why is Tubal Cain revered by Masons"?
a reply to: nancyliedersdeaddog

I did not ask that question.



Didn't Hall write this book in the early 1920''s

yes 1923 i think



How can a non Mason's work/belief close to 30 years before he even joined be used as solid evidence for anything


It is a good question



Seems as long as it appeals to your agenda you can listen to anyone whether they have experience with the topic or not


I wanted


To clarify it is his opinion ?

not that of Masons



a blanket statement like "Why is Tubal Cain revered by Masons"?

It is.
the confusion for others is why he mentions it i guess
and calling the book The Lost Keys of Freemasonry didnt help
for me it is if any other people within Masonry agreed with
what he previously wrote.
I like what he wrote about Tubal Cain
seeing if others did within Masonry
is a natural question for me



listen to anyone whether they have experience with the topic or not

That's why i asked the questions here
i hoped you might


edit on 11-8-2016 by kibric because: vallalaar



posted on Aug, 24 2016 @ 07:12 PM
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Tubal-Cain Invented Tools.... Many Tools. Why!?! He Had A Sister!
Naamah... His Keep... Was Not For Lust, Although That Was Her Grand Design.... Ironic, I Think.
To Earn Yourself A Woman Is By Far... The Best Thing In Life... If.... You... Are... Real....

Trestle Is Pronounced Trust All. Master Plan & Master's Plan.
Level Is Pronounced Leave All. Easy To Do.... But Hard To Aspire To...
Chisel Is Pronounced Choose All. To Each His Own.
Gavel Is Pronounced Give All. Not For Faint Of Heart.... Beware!
Trowel Is Prounounced Through All. Many Trials Amount To Affection.
If The Weights And Measures Created By Tubal-Cain Do Not Affect You And Reduce You To Bitterness Then You May Yet Have A Praise And A Prize From A Horny Virgin Whose Design Is To Give It Up To A Man Of Greatness And Worthiness.... She Will Be Offered Up To Your Lust.
Many Are The Tools... And The Trials Are True And Hard. BUT! You Are Being Watched. God Has Kept You... And Will Bring You Forth To The Moment Of Truth.
Skirret Is Pronounced Scare It. How Far Will You Get In Your Affairs With The Want.
How Much Pressure Can You Handle Before You Break... = weighed....
How Far Are You Willing To Go Before The End.... = measured........

The Tools Built A Harem Above..... Hiram Abif = (lost word) Harem Above.......

Go Out There And Earn Yourself A Naamah......

She May Be There To Greet You At The Half Way Mark.....


Tubal-Cain's Tools Are Almost As Marvelous, For Men, As The Glory Of A Woman.
If You Can Achieve Both.... You Are A Man. She Will Desire You. She Is Worth It.



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